RE: [TANKS] Re: free paper model of the German A7V tank
Yeah that'd be an issue for sure if I actually ever got to go to a battle (I don't think there is anybody near me that actually has a completed tank). --Chase -Original Message- From: rctankcombat@googlegroups.com [mailto:rctankcom...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve Tyng Sent: October-21-10 9:25 AM To: R/C Tank Combat Subject: [TANKS] Re: free paper model of the German A7V tank The A7V would make for an easy vehicle to build. The issue is that at a max armor of 30mm it only counts as a lightweight under the rules making it an easy kill at only two hits. Maybe the founder would consider a rules update basing defensive ratings on the tank's role for it's time period instead of armor thickness, or possibly a sliding scale for armor thickness based on decade of manufacture. The A7V was definitely a heavyweight for WW1 and it would be cool to see it on the battlefield one day. Steve Tyng On Oct 20, 5:01 pm, Chase Hargraves absolu...@gmail.com wrote: Or you could go here: http://15mmvsf.bagofmice.com/vsf/builder_pt.htm#A7Vh I think an A7V would make for an easy first tank, right? --Chase From: rctankcombat@googlegroups.com [mailto:rctankcom...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of odysseyslipw...@aol.com Sent: October-20-10 4:24 PM To: rctankcombat@googlegroups.com Subject: [TANKS] free paper model of the German A7V tank http://www.paperpanzer.co.uk/Models/Tanks/German/WWI/A7v/A7v.htm just scroll down to the bottom. it's a free download, but it doesn't have any markings or detail of any kind BUT it's free and gives you the hull shape Chris, Odyssey Slipways http://hometown.aol.com/odysseyslipways/index.html -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat
Re: [TANKS] Re: free paper model of the German A7V tank
There are many tanks I would've considered, but wanted the 4 hits and 40 shots. I would definately love to have a Bradley also. Derek On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 7:07 PM, dwconn...@comcast.net wrote: Maybe even give all tanks four hits regardless of real life armor thickness. That would let people build whatever kind of tank they wanted without a penalty and simplify the rules a little. One of the things that steered me away from a Bradley was that I didn't want a 3-hit tank. - Doug - Original Message - From: Steve Tyng steve...@gmail.com To: R/C Tank Combat rctankcombat@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 9:24:51 AM Subject: [TANKS] Re: free paper model of the German A7V tank The A7V would make for an easy vehicle to build. The issue is that at a max armor of 30mm it only counts as a lightweight under the rules making it an easy kill at only two hits. Maybe the founder would consider a rules update basing defensive ratings on the tank's role for it's time period instead of armor thickness, or possibly a sliding scale for armor thickness based on decade of manufacture. The A7V was definitely a heavyweight for WW1 and it would be cool to see it on the battlefield one day. Steve Tyng On Oct 20, 5:01 pm, Chase Hargraves absolu...@gmail.com wrote: Or you could go here: http://15mmvsf.bagofmice.com/vsf/builder_pt.htm#A7Vh I think an A7V would make for an easy first tank, right? --Chase From: rctankcombat@googlegroups.com [mailto: rctankcom...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of odysseyslipw...@aol.com Sent: October-20-10 4:24 PM To: rctankcombat@googlegroups.com Subject: [TANKS] free paper model of the German A7V tank http://www.paperpanzer.co.uk/Models/Tanks/German/WWI/A7v/A7v.htm just scroll down to the bottom. it's a free download, but it doesn't have any markings or detail of any kind BUT it's free and gives you the hull shape Chris, Odyssey Slipways http://hometown.aol.com/odysseyslipways/index.html -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat
[TANKS] Re: free paper model of the German A7V tank
This is a real point ,Im building a 5`6 long 1/3rd Marder that only takes two hits to kill it. I wanted to build a 4 hit tank but cant fit myself in a 1/3rd scale anything else tank . At the last UK battle I was explaining to the newbies how my tank (T051) required four hits to kill it and the Marder (T068) only required two hits and the Jeep just the one hit. They looked at me like I was making it up on the spot so that I would die less . I have no idea if Frank / powers that be wish for a rule change here but it would simplify a little. Neil R On Oct 21, 3:37 pm, dwconn...@comcast.net wrote: Maybe even give all tanks four hits regardless of real life armor thickness. That would let people build whatever kind of tank they wanted without a penalty and simplify the rules a little. One of the things that steered me away from a Bradley was that I didn't want a 3-hit tank. - Doug - Original Message - From: Steve Tyng steve...@gmail.com To: R/C Tank Combat rctankcombat@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 9:24:51 AM Subject: [TANKS] Re: free paper model of the German A7V tank The A7V would make for an easy vehicle to build. The issue is that at a max armor of 30mm it only counts as a lightweight under the rules making it an easy kill at only two hits. Maybe the founder would consider a rules update basing defensive ratings on the tank's role for it's time period instead of armor thickness, or possibly a sliding scale for armor thickness based on decade of manufacture. The A7V was definitely a heavyweight for WW1 and it would be cool to see it on the battlefield one day. Steve Tyng On Oct 20, 5:01 pm, Chase Hargraves absolu...@gmail.com wrote: Or you could go here: http://15mmvsf.bagofmice.com/vsf/builder_pt.htm#A7Vh I think an A7V would make for an easy first tank, right? --Chase From: rctankcombat@googlegroups.com [mailto:rctankcom...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of odysseyslipw...@aol.com Sent: October-20-10 4:24 PM To: rctankcombat@googlegroups.com Subject: [TANKS] free paper model of the German A7V tank http://www.paperpanzer.co.uk/Models/Tanks/German/WWI/A7v/A7v.htm just scroll down to the bottom. it's a free download, but it doesn't have any markings or detail of any kind BUT it's free and gives you the hull shape Chris, Odyssey Slipways http://hometown.aol.com/odysseyslipways/index.html -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat
Re: [TANKS] Re: free paper model of the German A7V tank
So, give tracked tanks 4 hits and wheeled combat vehicles (Strykers, LAVs, armored cars, etc.) 2 or 3 hits. On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 9:57 AM, Steve Tyng steve...@gmail.com wrote: I'm OK with this as long as the vehicle is at least 3' long. No reason in giving Mr. Sims and his Quadracycle any more advantages! Steve On Oct 21, 10:37 am, dwconn...@comcast.net wrote: Maybe even give all tanks four hits regardless of real life armor thickness. That would let people build whatever kind of tank they wanted without a penalty and simplify the rules a little. One of the things that steered me away from a Bradley was that I didn't want a 3-hit tank. - Doug - Original Message - From: Steve Tyng steve...@gmail.com To: R/C Tank Combat rctankcombat@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 9:24:51 AM Subject: [TANKS] Re: free paper model of the German A7V tank The A7V would make for an easy vehicle to build. The issue is that at a max armor of 30mm it only counts as a lightweight under the rules making it an easy kill at only two hits. Maybe the founder would consider a rules update basing defensive ratings on the tank's role for it's time period instead of armor thickness, or possibly a sliding scale for armor thickness based on decade of manufacture. The A7V was definitely a heavyweight for WW1 and it would be cool to see it on the battlefield one day. Steve Tyng On Oct 20, 5:01 pm, Chase Hargraves absolu...@gmail.com wrote: Or you could go here: http://15mmvsf.bagofmice.com/vsf/builder_pt.htm#A7Vh I think an A7V would make for an easy first tank, right? --Chase From: rctankcombat@googlegroups.com [mailto:rctankcom...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of odysseyslipw...@aol.com Sent: October-20-10 4:24 PM To: rctankcombat@googlegroups.com Subject: [TANKS] free paper model of the German A7V tank http://www.paperpanzer.co.uk/Models/Tanks/German/WWI/A7v/A7v.htm just scroll down to the bottom. it's a free download, but it doesn't have any markings or detail of any kind BUT it's free and gives you the hull shape Chris, Odyssey Slipways http://hometown.aol.com/odysseyslipways/index.html -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat -- -Bill Hamilton -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat
[TANKS] Re: free paper model of the German A7V tank
Steve wrote I'm OK with this as long as the vehicle is at least 3' long. Now here lies a small problem, lets say Frank decided on a rule change , for simplicity if nothing else. some tanks are less than 3 long, does that mean the old rules would apply to them and only them ? if so we have had a rule made more complicated rather than a simplification . Chase , where are you situated ? Neil R -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat
RE: [TANKS] Re: free paper model of the German A7V tank
About an hour northeast of Toronto. -Original Message- From: rctankcombat@googlegroups.com [mailto:rctankcom...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of neroc Sent: October-21-10 11:32 AM To: R/C Tank Combat Subject: [TANKS] Re: free paper model of the German A7V tank Steve wrote I'm OK with this as long as the vehicle is at least 3' long. Now here lies a small problem, lets say Frank decided on a rule change , for simplicity if nothing else. some tanks are less than 3 long, does that mean the old rules would apply to them and only them ? if so we have had a rule made more complicated rather than a simplification . Chase , where are you situated ? Neil R -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat
[TANKS] Re: free paper model of the German A7V tank
I agree, perhaps something like this. tanks over 3' - 4 shots tanks under 3' - 3 shots tanks under 2.5' - 2 shots armored cars over 3' - 3 shots armored cars under 3' - 2 shots armored cars under 2' - 1 shot support vehicles over 3' - 2 shots (if armored) support vehicles under 3' - 1 shot support vehicles under 2' - still only 1 shot And perhaps a special rule for tanks over 4' - 5 shots, for those guys who really like those abrams, leopords, and such. Just a suggestion. Aaron F T076 SCAB -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat
Re: [TANKS] Re: free paper model of the German A7V tank
Uuhh, I thought this was a rule simplification. I'm just sayin'. :) Derek On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:56 AM, Cobra afreem...@live.com wrote: I agree, perhaps something like this. tanks over 3' - 4 shots tanks under 3' - 3 shots tanks under 2.5' - 2 shots armored cars over 3' - 3 shots armored cars under 3' - 2 shots armored cars under 2' - 1 shot support vehicles over 3' - 2 shots (if armored) support vehicles under 3' - 1 shot support vehicles under 2' - still only 1 shot And perhaps a special rule for tanks over 4' - 5 shots, for those guys who really like those abrams, leopords, and such. Just a suggestion. Aaron F T076 SCAB -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat
[TANKS] Re: free paper model of the German A7V tank
I know what would be simple , a tank takes 4 shots to be destroyed , I do realise that Frank would have considered all of this at the process of dreaming up these rules. the rules have worked perfectly well so far ,to my knowledge at least. And I will say that a 2 hit tank can only loose 500 of those all important points per visit to the battle field . Moreover it is often not greatly harder to land 4 shots on the side of a hull than it is to land 2 , if a good positioned is reached. So there from a points point of view, there can be an advantage being a 2 hit tank . My original comment was purely for a rule simplification as people do come to battles not knowing the rules. Neil R On Oct 21, 5:11 pm, Derek Engelhaupt tan...@gmail.com wrote: Uuhh, I thought this was a rule simplification. I'm just sayin'. :) Derek On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:56 AM, Cobra afreem...@live.com wrote: I agree, perhaps something like this. tanks over 3' - 4 shots tanks under 3' - 3 shots tanks under 2.5' - 2 shots armored cars over 3' - 3 shots armored cars under 3' - 2 shots armored cars under 2' - 1 shot support vehicles over 3' - 2 shots (if armored) support vehicles under 3' - 1 shot support vehicles under 2' - still only 1 shot And perhaps a special rule for tanks over 4' - 5 shots, for those guys who really like those abrams, leopords, and such. Just a suggestion. Aaron F T076 SCAB -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat
Re: [TANKS] Re: free paper model of the German A7V tank
In a message dated 10/21/2010 10:58:04 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, steve...@gmail.com writes: I'm OK with this as long as the vehicle is at least 3' long. No reason in giving Mr. Sims and his Quadracycle any more advantages! Steve has he ever been in a battle yet? Chris, _Odyssey Slipways_ (http://hometown.aol.com/odysseyslipways/index.html) -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat
[TANKS] Re: free paper model of the German A7V tank
Yes! http://rctankcombat.com/statistics/AssetHistory.cgi?type=Support%20Vehicleid=SV003 On Oct 21, 1:13 pm, odysseyslipw...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 10/21/2010 10:58:04 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, steve...@gmail.com writes: I'm OK with this as long as the vehicle is at least 3' long. No reason in giving Mr. Sims and his Quadracycle any more advantages! Steve has he ever been in a battle yet? Chris, _Odyssey Slipways_ (http://hometown.aol.com/odysseyslipways/index.html) -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat
RE: [TANKS] Re: free paper model of the German A7V tank
ok, so what is a tank Accordingly to the current rules it is any fully tracked vehicle, so that means an M113 is a tank, and would be stratecially an excellent choice as its only 750mm long at 1:6 scale, and can be armed with 40 shots due to variations that exist with a 75mm canon. But what happens when its used as a support vehicle, its still 4 shots to kill, even though it has piddly ~25mm aluminum armor? I think perhaps better to leave the rules like they are. Ben From: rctankcombat@googlegroups.com [rctankcom...@googlegroups.com] on behalf of neroc [funkyne...@ntlworld.com] Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 3:59 AM To: R/C Tank Combat Subject: [TANKS] Re: free paper model of the German A7V tank I know what would be simple , a tank takes 4 shots to be destroyed , I do realise that Frank would have considered all of this at the process of dreaming up these rules. the rules have worked perfectly well so far ,to my knowledge at least. And I will say that a 2 hit tank can only loose 500 of those all important points per visit to the battle field . Moreover it is often not greatly harder to land 4 shots on the side of a hull than it is to land 2 , if a good positioned is reached. So there from a points point of view, there can be an advantage being a 2 hit tank . My original comment was purely for a rule simplification as people do come to battles not knowing the rules. Neil R On Oct 21, 5:11 pm, Derek Engelhaupt tan...@gmail.com wrote: Uuhh, I thought this was a rule simplification. I'm just sayin'. :) Derek On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:56 AM, Cobra afreem...@live.com wrote: I agree, perhaps something like this. tanks over 3' - 4 shots tanks under 3' - 3 shots tanks under 2.5' - 2 shots armored cars over 3' - 3 shots armored cars under 3' - 2 shots armored cars under 2' - 1 shot support vehicles over 3' - 2 shots (if armored) support vehicles under 3' - 1 shot support vehicles under 2' - still only 1 shot And perhaps a special rule for tanks over 4' - 5 shots, for those guys who really like those abrams, leopords, and such. Just a suggestion. Aaron F T076 SCAB -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat
