Re: [TANKS] Re: New tank; need advice on motors
Now for a much stupider question, but what wire gauge should I be using in the run from the batteries to the speed controller to the motors? On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 12:39 AM, Derek Engelhaupt tan...@gmail.com wrote: Of course that's if your tracks didn't slip at all your motors would stall. My tracks are steel so they would slip some. On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 11:37 PM, Derek Engelhaupt tan...@gmail.comwrote: I have seen people use standard clips, but Robot Market Place looks like they still have the connectors in stock: http://www.robotmarketplace.com/products/0-EVCABLE.html Most people were using (2) 12V 18AH batteries to power them. The fuses you would need on them would really depend on the speed controller you use. Personally I have blown 30A fuses with my scooter motors. I think I'm using a 50A fuse with a 60A controller. Stall current would be if you decided to do something like...running your tank into a wall and keep pushing the motors full throttle. At that point they would stall and be pulling upwards of 100A. At 50A my fuses would blow and protect my motors and my controllers. Derek On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 6:50 PM, True North Armouries panthergol...@gmail.com wrote: Update; I just received a set of EV motors, and am almost at the stage of mounting them in the tank. I have a few questions concerning EV motors though for people who know about them. Im planning to run them off 24 volts. Id like to know what rating on the fuse and relays people use, as the datasheet claims a stall current of over 100 amps. Id like to know how many Ah the batteries should be. Lastly, do i need the ev wiring harness or do the tabs accept standard sized crimp connectors? On Sunday, July 7, 2013 8:46:19 PM UTC-4, True North Armouries wrote: Hi all, I started working on my t34-85 this past Canada Day, though ive been doing research and electronics work since Easter. I'd like to take a moment to thank Steve for the T34 plans; for my first tank im really grateful to not have to scale any drawings before I can start sawing. Ive been looking at motors, and I need some advice; most of you seem to have EV motors, which are increasingly hard to find. I have done a fair bit of looking on-line, and have come to the conclusion I have no idea how many watts my motors should be. I found someone selling 350 watt 24 volt scooter motors for a good price, but I wanted to know what you guys think, seeing as some of you have far more experience. Is 350 watts per track enough power, or is it going to be sluggish and i should look for at least 500-600 watts? Thanks in advance, Isaac -- -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups R/C Tank Combat group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups R/C Tank Combat group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Isaac Goldman 5142334423 This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. -- -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups R/C Tank Combat group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [TANKS] Re: New tank; need advice on motors
I did the calculations myself, but im curious what gauge you guys use... On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 12:00 PM, isaac goldman panthergol...@gmail.comwrote: Now for a much stupider question, but what wire gauge should I be using in the run from the batteries to the speed controller to the motors? On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 12:39 AM, Derek Engelhaupt tan...@gmail.comwrote: Of course that's if your tracks didn't slip at all your motors would stall. My tracks are steel so they would slip some. On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 11:37 PM, Derek Engelhaupt tan...@gmail.comwrote: I have seen people use standard clips, but Robot Market Place looks like they still have the connectors in stock: http://www.robotmarketplace.com/products/0-EVCABLE.html Most people were using (2) 12V 18AH batteries to power them. The fuses you would need on them would really depend on the speed controller you use. Personally I have blown 30A fuses with my scooter motors. I think I'm using a 50A fuse with a 60A controller. Stall current would be if you decided to do something like...running your tank into a wall and keep pushing the motors full throttle. At that point they would stall and be pulling upwards of 100A. At 50A my fuses would blow and protect my motors and my controllers. Derek On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 6:50 PM, True North Armouries panthergol...@gmail.com wrote: Update; I just received a set of EV motors, and am almost at the stage of mounting them in the tank. I have a few questions concerning EV motors though for people who know about them. Im planning to run them off 24 volts. Id like to know what rating on the fuse and relays people use, as the datasheet claims a stall current of over 100 amps. Id like to know how many Ah the batteries should be. Lastly, do i need the ev wiring harness or do the tabs accept standard sized crimp connectors? On Sunday, July 7, 2013 8:46:19 PM UTC-4, True North Armouries wrote: Hi all, I started working on my t34-85 this past Canada Day, though ive been doing research and electronics work since Easter. I'd like to take a moment to thank Steve for the T34 plans; for my first tank im really grateful to not have to scale any drawings before I can start sawing. Ive been looking at motors, and I need some advice; most of you seem to have EV motors, which are increasingly hard to find. I have done a fair bit of looking on-line, and have come to the conclusion I have no idea how many watts my motors should be. I found someone selling 350 watt 24 volt scooter motors for a good price, but I wanted to know what you guys think, seeing as some of you have far more experience. Is 350 watts per track enough power, or is it going to be sluggish and i should look for at least 500-600 watts? Thanks in advance, Isaac -- -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups R/C Tank Combat group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups R/C Tank Combat group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Isaac Goldman 5142334423 This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. -- Isaac Goldman 5142334423 This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. -- -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups R/C Tank Combat group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [TANKS] Re: New tank; need advice on motors
Being that they could stall and draw 100A each. I would overkill a smidge with 8awg or 10awg silicone jacketed high strand count wire. You could get by with 12awg though I bet. Mike B On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 7:16 PM, isaac goldman panthergol...@gmail.comwrote: I did the calculations myself, but im curious what gauge you guys use... On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 12:00 PM, isaac goldman panthergol...@gmail.comwrote: Now for a much stupider question, but what wire gauge should I be using in the run from the batteries to the speed controller to the motors? On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 12:39 AM, Derek Engelhaupt tan...@gmail.comwrote: Of course that's if your tracks didn't slip at all your motors would stall. My tracks are steel so they would slip some. On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 11:37 PM, Derek Engelhaupt tan...@gmail.comwrote: I have seen people use standard clips, but Robot Market Place looks like they still have the connectors in stock: http://www.robotmarketplace.com/products/0-EVCABLE.html Most people were using (2) 12V 18AH batteries to power them. The fuses you would need on them would really depend on the speed controller you use. Personally I have blown 30A fuses with my scooter motors. I think I'm using a 50A fuse with a 60A controller. Stall current would be if you decided to do something like...running your tank into a wall and keep pushing the motors full throttle. At that point they would stall and be pulling upwards of 100A. At 50A my fuses would blow and protect my motors and my controllers. Derek On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 6:50 PM, True North Armouries panthergol...@gmail.com wrote: Update; I just received a set of EV motors, and am almost at the stage of mounting them in the tank. I have a few questions concerning EV motors though for people who know about them. Im planning to run them off 24 volts. Id like to know what rating on the fuse and relays people use, as the datasheet claims a stall current of over 100 amps. Id like to know how many Ah the batteries should be. Lastly, do i need the ev wiring harness or do the tabs accept standard sized crimp connectors? On Sunday, July 7, 2013 8:46:19 PM UTC-4, True North Armouries wrote: Hi all, I started working on my t34-85 this past Canada Day, though ive been doing research and electronics work since Easter. I'd like to take a moment to thank Steve for the T34 plans; for my first tank im really grateful to not have to scale any drawings before I can start sawing. Ive been looking at motors, and I need some advice; most of you seem to have EV motors, which are increasingly hard to find. I have done a fair bit of looking on-line, and have come to the conclusion I have no idea how many watts my motors should be. I found someone selling 350 watt 24 volt scooter motors for a good price, but I wanted to know what you guys think, seeing as some of you have far more experience. Is 350 watts per track enough power, or is it going to be sluggish and i should look for at least 500-600 watts? Thanks in advance, Isaac -- -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups R/C Tank Combat group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups R/C Tank Combat group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Isaac Goldman 5142334423 This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. -- Isaac Goldman 5142334423 This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. -- -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat --- You received this
Re: [TANKS] Re: New tank; need advice on motors
^^Thats what i had figured. I calculated 8 AWG as the best choice, but wanted to confirm with what other people are using On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 3:06 PM, Michael Butts buttsakau...@gmail.comwrote: Being that they could stall and draw 100A each. I would overkill a smidge with 8awg or 10awg silicone jacketed high strand count wire. You could get by with 12awg though I bet. Mike B On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 7:16 PM, isaac goldman panthergol...@gmail.comwrote: I did the calculations myself, but im curious what gauge you guys use... On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 12:00 PM, isaac goldman panthergol...@gmail.comwrote: Now for a much stupider question, but what wire gauge should I be using in the run from the batteries to the speed controller to the motors? On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 12:39 AM, Derek Engelhaupt tan...@gmail.comwrote: Of course that's if your tracks didn't slip at all your motors would stall. My tracks are steel so they would slip some. On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 11:37 PM, Derek Engelhaupt tan...@gmail.comwrote: I have seen people use standard clips, but Robot Market Place looks like they still have the connectors in stock: http://www.robotmarketplace.com/products/0-EVCABLE.html Most people were using (2) 12V 18AH batteries to power them. The fuses you would need on them would really depend on the speed controller you use. Personally I have blown 30A fuses with my scooter motors. I think I'm using a 50A fuse with a 60A controller. Stall current would be if you decided to do something like...running your tank into a wall and keep pushing the motors full throttle. At that point they would stall and be pulling upwards of 100A. At 50A my fuses would blow and protect my motors and my controllers. Derek On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 6:50 PM, True North Armouries panthergol...@gmail.com wrote: Update; I just received a set of EV motors, and am almost at the stage of mounting them in the tank. I have a few questions concerning EV motors though for people who know about them. Im planning to run them off 24 volts. Id like to know what rating on the fuse and relays people use, as the datasheet claims a stall current of over 100 amps. Id like to know how many Ah the batteries should be. Lastly, do i need the ev wiring harness or do the tabs accept standard sized crimp connectors? On Sunday, July 7, 2013 8:46:19 PM UTC-4, True North Armouries wrote: Hi all, I started working on my t34-85 this past Canada Day, though ive been doing research and electronics work since Easter. I'd like to take a moment to thank Steve for the T34 plans; for my first tank im really grateful to not have to scale any drawings before I can start sawing. Ive been looking at motors, and I need some advice; most of you seem to have EV motors, which are increasingly hard to find. I have done a fair bit of looking on-line, and have come to the conclusion I have no idea how many watts my motors should be. I found someone selling 350 watt 24 volt scooter motors for a good price, but I wanted to know what you guys think, seeing as some of you have far more experience. Is 350 watts per track enough power, or is it going to be sluggish and i should look for at least 500-600 watts? Thanks in advance, Isaac -- -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups R/C Tank Combat group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups R/C Tank Combat group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Isaac Goldman 5142334423 This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. -- Isaac Goldman 5142334423 This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. -- -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message,
Re: [TANKS] Re: New tank; need advice on motors
And the point is if your fuses are set to 50A and your fuses do their job then the wire doesn't become your fuse. :) Sent from my iPhone On Aug 9, 2013, at 2:19 PM, isaac goldman panthergol...@gmail.com wrote: ^^Thats what i had figured. I calculated 8 AWG as the best choice, but wanted to confirm with what other people are using On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 3:06 PM, Michael Butts buttsakau...@gmail.com wrote: Being that they could stall and draw 100A each. I would overkill a smidge with 8awg or 10awg silicone jacketed high strand count wire. You could get by with 12awg though I bet. Mike B On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 7:16 PM, isaac goldman panthergol...@gmail.com wrote: I did the calculations myself, but im curious what gauge you guys use... On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 12:00 PM, isaac goldman panthergol...@gmail.com wrote: Now for a much stupider question, but what wire gauge should I be using in the run from the batteries to the speed controller to the motors? On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 12:39 AM, Derek Engelhaupt tan...@gmail.com wrote: Of course that's if your tracks didn't slip at all your motors would stall. My tracks are steel so they would slip some. On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 11:37 PM, Derek Engelhaupt tan...@gmail.com wrote: I have seen people use standard clips, but Robot Market Place looks like they still have the connectors in stock: http://www.robotmarketplace.com/products/0-EVCABLE.html Most people were using (2) 12V 18AH batteries to power them. The fuses you would need on them would really depend on the speed controller you use. Personally I have blown 30A fuses with my scooter motors. I think I'm using a 50A fuse with a 60A controller. Stall current would be if you decided to do something like...running your tank into a wall and keep pushing the motors full throttle. At that point they would stall and be pulling upwards of 100A. At 50A my fuses would blow and protect my motors and my controllers. Derek On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 6:50 PM, True North Armouries panthergol...@gmail.com wrote: Update; I just received a set of EV motors, and am almost at the stage of mounting them in the tank. I have a few questions concerning EV motors though for people who know about them. Im planning to run them off 24 volts. Id like to know what rating on the fuse and relays people use, as the datasheet claims a stall current of over 100 amps. Id like to know how many Ah the batteries should be. Lastly, do i need the ev wiring harness or do the tabs accept standard sized crimp connectors? On Sunday, July 7, 2013 8:46:19 PM UTC-4, True North Armouries wrote: Hi all, I started working on my t34-85 this past Canada Day, though ive been doing research and electronics work since Easter. I'd like to take a moment to thank Steve for the T34 plans; for my first tank im really grateful to not have to scale any drawings before I can start sawing. Ive been looking at motors, and I need some advice; most of you seem to have EV motors, which are increasingly hard to find. I have done a fair bit of looking on-line, and have come to the conclusion I have no idea how many watts my motors should be. I found someone selling 350 watt 24 volt scooter motors for a good price, but I wanted to know what you guys think, seeing as some of you have far more experience. Is 350 watts per track enough power, or is it going to be sluggish and i should look for at least 500-600 watts? Thanks in advance, Isaac -- -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups R/C Tank Combat group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups R/C Tank Combat group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Isaac Goldman 5142334423 This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. -- Isaac Goldman 5142334423
Re: [TANKS] Re: New tank; need advice on motors
My motor driver mosfets can handle 175 amps at 75 degrees C, so my main concern is burning a wire; im gonna set my fuses on the high side... On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 3:33 PM, Derek ENGELHAUPT tan...@gmail.com wrote: And the point is if your fuses are set to 50A and your fuses do their job then the wire doesn't become your fuse. :) Sent from my iPhone On Aug 9, 2013, at 2:19 PM, isaac goldman panthergol...@gmail.com wrote: ^^Thats what i had figured. I calculated 8 AWG as the best choice, but wanted to confirm with what other people are using On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 3:06 PM, Michael Butts buttsakau...@gmail.comwrote: Being that they could stall and draw 100A each. I would overkill a smidge with 8awg or 10awg silicone jacketed high strand count wire. You could get by with 12awg though I bet. Mike B On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 7:16 PM, isaac goldman panthergol...@gmail.comwrote: I did the calculations myself, but im curious what gauge you guys use... On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 12:00 PM, isaac goldman panthergol...@gmail.comwrote: Now for a much stupider question, but what wire gauge should I be using in the run from the batteries to the speed controller to the motors? On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 12:39 AM, Derek Engelhaupt tan...@gmail.comwrote: Of course that's if your tracks didn't slip at all your motors would stall. My tracks are steel so they would slip some. On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 11:37 PM, Derek Engelhaupt tan...@gmail.comwrote: I have seen people use standard clips, but Robot Market Place looks like they still have the connectors in stock: http://www.robotmarketplace.com/products/0-EVCABLE.html Most people were using (2) 12V 18AH batteries to power them. The fuses you would need on them would really depend on the speed controller you use. Personally I have blown 30A fuses with my scooter motors. I think I'm using a 50A fuse with a 60A controller. Stall current would be if you decided to do something like...running your tank into a wall and keep pushing the motors full throttle. At that point they would stall and be pulling upwards of 100A. At 50A my fuses would blow and protect my motors and my controllers. Derek On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 6:50 PM, True North Armouries panthergol...@gmail.com wrote: Update; I just received a set of EV motors, and am almost at the stage of mounting them in the tank. I have a few questions concerning EV motors though for people who know about them. Im planning to run them off 24 volts. Id like to know what rating on the fuse and relays people use, as the datasheet claims a stall current of over 100 amps. Id like to know how many Ah the batteries should be. Lastly, do i need the ev wiring harness or do the tabs accept standard sized crimp connectors? On Sunday, July 7, 2013 8:46:19 PM UTC-4, True North Armouries wrote: Hi all, I started working on my t34-85 this past Canada Day, though ive been doing research and electronics work since Easter. I'd like to take a moment to thank Steve for the T34 plans; for my first tank im really grateful to not have to scale any drawings before I can start sawing. Ive been looking at motors, and I need some advice; most of you seem to have EV motors, which are increasingly hard to find. I have done a fair bit of looking on-line, and have come to the conclusion I have no idea how many watts my motors should be. I found someone selling 350 watt 24 volt scooter motors for a good price, but I wanted to know what you guys think, seeing as some of you have far more experience. Is 350 watts per track enough power, or is it going to be sluggish and i should look for at least 500-600 watts? Thanks in advance, Isaac -- -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups R/C Tank Combat group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- You are currently subscribed to the R/C Tank Combat group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups R/C Tank Combat group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Isaac Goldman 5142334423 This message contains confidential information and is intended only
