[TANKS] Hello

[Ghost Division]

Hello all:

I'm Pat from State College, PA. I have been interested in 1/6 models for 
two or three years but I was never able to find a group anywhere near me to 
join. I luckily found your website and contacted Frank who put me in touch 
with Joe: he lives about 5 miles from me. My son and I visited Joe and we 
are both hooked. I especially want to be involved in your battles; the idea 
of driving our creation around the woods and hunting down other vehicles 
sounds great.

My son turns 12 next week. I bought him a Taigon 1/16 airsoft RC tank so 
that he has something to run around the yard. For his birthday I am taking 
him down to the AAF Museum in Danville Va for their IR battle weekend. A 
fellow from the Philly area is going to let us try out the IR system on 
their 6k sq' battlefield. I think my son will enjoy that a lot. I am hoping 
this project is a way to get him interested in mechanical work and building 
instead of tv and video games. I am divorced so I try to make sure that 
when we are together we have quality time and do things that interest him 
but also challenge him.

I have worked as an electrician, contractor (plumbing/framing. . . ), 
managed an Incinerator Facility for the past 22 years and owned/operated a 
Quarter Horse farm for almost 20. I can weld ok using an arc welder but I 
do not have a lot of experience with a wire feed. I am good with mechanical 
projects but by no means can I even think of designing some of the things 
that I saw in Joes workshop (incredible work). I believe I can make the 
chassis, upper hull and install most of the electronics on my own. I have 
doubts about my ability when it comes to making the suspension; that has 
been bothering me the last two days. I have watched videos and looked at 
the tank build pictures on the website; I still do not have a clue on how 
to get started with them.

I looked at the Armortek kits and can't justify 3 to 4k on something that 
just drives around. I prefer something that we created ourselves and that 
can serve a function (shooting paintballs at things). I want to build a 
Jagdtiger; I know a huge undertaking for a first attempt. I really like the 
vehicle and its history and hope I can make a passable model of it. Joe has 
sent me some drawings and the stats of the vehicle. I have talked with 
George Bradford and he sent me his drawing of it. He also provided me with 
some reference material that he thought would be helpful.

I am hoping once a can create a mock up chassis out of plywood I will 
become inspired and dive into the suspension issue. I am going to use the 
TSS track (I believe that is the designation for the belt one). I found a 
fellow that repairs exercise equipment and he is going to contact me as 
soon as he has some old treadmill belts. He threw out three the morning 
that I contacted him: as usual a day late.

My goal is to try to have a running lower hull that I can bring to your 
first event this year; hopefully it will have some type of upper hull to 
offer target practice.

See ya,

Pat


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[TANKS] Re: Hello

[Loic atFOA]

 

Pat,

 

First, welcome to the “club”.

 

I’m a vendor of 1/6th scale product, so I have to be careful of what I say 
here… 

 

First, Armortek kits are not $3-4k. It’s more like $5k+ for just the empty 
shell of a large tank. Then you have to add all the electronics and other 
components to reach about $8-10k for the kit... then you have to build it

My company, FOA, provides the Jagdtiger RC fully designed 

 
with suspension, motorization and electronics for about $2.6k as a kit. 
It’s a MONSTER. Here’s a photo of a built static kit

 




 

Often on this forum, builders are interested to build their own design. 
It’s part of the “fun”. I have found out that it is a very complex endeavor 
to achieve the “best” design unless you have the experience of the finest 
“engineering mind” from the members of this forum. I just talked to a 
customer who bought our Tiger I static and installed his own suspension 
system. He spent numerous hours of frustration and design changes before he 
got something “acceptable” – still his Tiger’s sprocket seems slightly too 
high. He is now buying our RC Kingtiger with the pre-designed suspension 
system to focus his interest in other form of modeling, like detailing his 
tank

 

I LOVE this forum, because it is a source of intelligent and willing 
fellows who will help. FOA has worked with many of its members, whether as 
designers or customers. And then there is the practical aspect of the 
build, which is the actual combat!

 

But I think the pitfall to avoid is the total frustration of a far-stretch 
project that undermines the finishing of the “dream tank”.

 

I’m wishing you luck and will follow with interest your build-up

 

Happy Modeling!

Loic Anthian

http://www.fieldofarmortanks.com


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[TANKS] Re: Hello

[Caleb Smith]

Welcome Pat! 
Looks like you're in a wonderful spot to get started in this hobby. Joe 
will be able to show you a lot of the "do's and don'ts" when it comes to 
building tanks. I'm about an hour and a half due east of you near the town 
of Sunbury.
I can understand how hard it looks to build the suspension units for a 
tank. It's one of the hardest parts to build...if you build it. Most of the 
tanks at the battle just have solid axles for that reason. About three or 
four tanks have working suspension units (mine not included). 
Anyway, looking forward to seeing the beginnings of your tank.
Caleb

On Wednesday, February 22, 2017 at 1:57:23 PM UTC-5, Ghost Division wrote:
>
> Hello all:
>
> I'm Pat from State College, PA. I have been interested in 1/6 models for 
> two or three years but I was never able to find a group anywhere near me to 
> join. I luckily found your website and contacted Frank who put me in touch 
> with Joe: he lives about 5 miles from me. My son and I visited Joe and we 
> are both hooked. I especially want to be involved in your battles; the idea 
> of driving our creation around the woods and hunting down other vehicles 
> sounds great.
>
> My son turns 12 next week. I bought him a Taigon 1/16 airsoft RC tank so 
> that he has something to run around the yard. For his birthday I am taking 
> him down to the AAF Museum in Danville Va for their IR battle weekend. A 
> fellow from the Philly area is going to let us try out the IR system on 
> their 6k sq' battlefield. I think my son will enjoy that a lot. I am hoping 
> this project is a way to get him interested in mechanical work and building 
> instead of tv and video games. I am divorced so I try to make sure that 
> when we are together we have quality time and do things that interest him 
> but also challenge him.
>
> I have worked as an electrician, contractor (plumbing/framing. . . ), 
> managed an Incinerator Facility for the past 22 years and owned/operated a 
> Quarter Horse farm for almost 20. I can weld ok using an arc welder but I 
> do not have a lot of experience with a wire feed. I am good with mechanical 
> projects but by no means can I even think of designing some of the things 
> that I saw in Joes workshop (incredible work). I believe I can make the 
> chassis, upper hull and install most of the electronics on my own. I have 
> doubts about my ability when it comes to making the suspension; that has 
> been bothering me the last two days. I have watched videos and looked at 
> the tank build pictures on the website; I still do not have a clue on how 
> to get started with them.
>
> I looked at the Armortek kits and can't justify 3 to 4k on something that 
> just drives around. I prefer something that we created ourselves and that 
> can serve a function (shooting paintballs at things). I want to build a 
> Jagdtiger; I know a huge undertaking for a first attempt. I really like the 
> vehicle and its history and hope I can make a passable model of it. Joe has 
> sent me some drawings and the stats of the vehicle. I have talked with 
> George Bradford and he sent me his drawing of it. He also provided me with 
> some reference material that he thought would be helpful.
>
> I am hoping once a can create a mock up chassis out of plywood I will 
> become inspired and dive into the suspension issue. I am going to use the 
> TSS track (I believe that is the designation for the belt one). I found a 
> fellow that repairs exercise equipment and he is going to contact me as 
> soon as he has some old treadmill belts. He threw out three the morning 
> that I contacted him: as usual a day late.
>
> My goal is to try to have a running lower hull that I can bring to your 
> first event this year; hopefully it will have some type of upper hull to 
> offer target practice.
>
> See ya,
>
> Pat
>
>
>

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Re: [TANKS] Hello

[J-MaxRC]

Congradulation Pat!!

You are now entering the incredible (and a lot of times fustrating) world
of RC Combat Tank.

On my part, I do think that the tracks are the hardest thing to get
rigth! They are directly affected by the suspensions but gettings the
tracks rolling good on soft terrain at the width of the jagtiger will be a
good acheivement...!

As Loïc said, is compagny do sell very nice suspensions units (I got some
on my SU-76) they are incredibly versatil but a little expensive...!!!

Going for your own design surely meen that you will need few try before get
it rigth... You will need to think simple and being capable to easily swap
parts on any case it's not exactly rigth.!

The Tyng Track System is for me the best track system as I use it on all my
models. It's simple and solid when you got enought pad thickness and good
quality strap...!!! Spaces between pads are what you need to worry about (I
meen precisely all the same)!!

Anyway, if you need help you are at the rigth place!!!

Good Lick

Jean-Maxime Cyr St-Pierre

Le mercredi 22 février 2017, Caleb Smith <3219ca...@gmail.com> a écrit :

> Welcome Pat!
> Looks like you're in a wonderful spot to get started in this hobby. Joe
> will be able to show you a lot of the "do's and don'ts" when it comes to
> building tanks. I'm about an hour and a half due east of you near the town
> of Sunbury.
> I can understand how hard it looks to build the suspension units for a
> tank. It's one of the hardest parts to build...if you build it. Most of the
> tanks at the battle just have solid axles for that reason. About three or
> four tanks have working suspension units (mine not included).
> Anyway, looking forward to seeing the beginnings of your tank.
> Caleb
>
> On Wednesday, February 22, 2017 at 1:57:23 PM UTC-5, Ghost Division wrote:
>>
>> Hello all:
>>
>> I'm Pat from State College, PA. I have been interested in 1/6 models for
>> two or three years but I was never able to find a group anywhere near me to
>> join. I luckily found your website and contacted Frank who put me in touch
>> with Joe: he lives about 5 miles from me. My son and I visited Joe and we
>> are both hooked. I especially want to be involved in your battles; the idea
>> of driving our creation around the woods and hunting down other vehicles
>> sounds great.
>>
>> My son turns 12 next week. I bought him a Taigon 1/16 airsoft RC tank so
>> that he has something to run around the yard. For his birthday I am taking
>> him down to the AAF Museum in Danville Va for their IR battle weekend. A
>> fellow from the Philly area is going to let us try out the IR system on
>> their 6k sq' battlefield. I think my son will enjoy that a lot. I am hoping
>> this project is a way to get him interested in mechanical work and building
>> instead of tv and video games. I am divorced so I try to make sure that
>> when we are together we have quality time and do things that interest him
>> but also challenge him.
>>
>> I have worked as an electrician, contractor (plumbing/framing. . . ),
>> managed an Incinerator Facility for the past 22 years and owned/operated a
>> Quarter Horse farm for almost 20. I can weld ok using an arc welder but I
>> do not have a lot of experience with a wire feed. I am good with mechanical
>> projects but by no means can I even think of designing some of the things
>> that I saw in Joes workshop (incredible work). I believe I can make the
>> chassis, upper hull and install most of the electronics on my own. I have
>> doubts about my ability when it comes to making the suspension; that has
>> been bothering me the last two days. I have watched videos and looked at
>> the tank build pictures on the website; I still do not have a clue on how
>> to get started with them.
>>
>> I looked at the Armortek kits and can't justify 3 to 4k on something that
>> just drives around. I prefer something that we created ourselves and that
>> can serve a function (shooting paintballs at things). I want to build a
>> Jagdtiger; I know a huge undertaking for a first attempt. I really like the
>> vehicle and its history and hope I can make a passable model of it. Joe has
>> sent me some drawings and the stats of the vehicle. I have talked with
>> George Bradford and he sent me his drawing of it. He also provided me with
>> some reference material that he thought would be helpful.
>>
>> I am hoping once a can create a mock up chassis out of plywood I will
>> become inspired and dive into the suspension issue. I am going to use the
>> TSS track (I believe that is the designation for the belt one). I found a
>> fellow that repairs exercise equipment and he is going to contact me as
>> soon as he has some old treadmill belts. He threw out three the morning
>> that I contacted him: as usual a day late.
>>
>> My goal is to try to have a running lower hull that I can bring to your
>> first event this year; hopefully it will have some type of upper hull to
>> offer target practice.
>>
>> See ya,

Re: [TANKS] Re: An Era is OVER!

[srwh74rn]

I see the Cromwell build page is down. Sorry to see. 

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