Re: [TANKS] Suspension Guidance

[Caleb Smith]

Hi Pat, 
No suspension is definitely the easiest and fastest way to get a tank 
going. And while it might not be the most scale or smoothest ride, it sure 
beats not having a moving tank at all! I tried to incorporate a simple 
suspension on my Locust during construction but later went to hard axles 
when I kept having issues. 
If you end up using wood for the TTS track I'd recommend you not use wood 
for the tracking tabs. Wooded tabs (in my experience) break too easily and 
can be a pain to replace. Instead, use 1/2" by 1/2" aluminum angle cut into 
half inch pieces and secure them on the wooden track with a screw and a 
little E6000 glue. If something goes wrong with the track and some tabs get 
bent, use some pliers to straighten them. If they break, take out the screw 
and replaced it. Much easier to fix than a wooden tab broke off half way 
with a brad sticking out of it, especially when you're in a hurry.
Hope to see you at a battle someday soon.
Agent "Smith"

On Thursday, September 28, 2017 at 12:01:18 PM UTC-4, Ghost Division wrote:
>
> Thanks for the response! I had emailed Joe and my son and I will be trying 
> to get a running lower chassis going with straight axels. I will upgrade to 
> a working suspension when we can. I have been trying to figure out how to 
> pour my treadmill track cleats in resin but so far I do not think I have it 
> figured out. I may have to go the hardwood method and then figure out the 
> resin pours. I found a local craft store that has rubber mold and resin 
> kits; just need to take the time to pick some up and experiment. Still not 
> sure how to color the clear resin black to save having to keep repainting 
> it.
>
> See ya,
>
> Pat
>
> On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 4:41 AM, J-MaxRC  
> wrote:
>
>> Hello Pat! 
>>
>> Realy not much anwsering those days here Kind of sad... 
>>
>> Building tanks is hard as you've seen it..!! So the best you can do is to 
>> get the thing running as fast as possible to at least enjoy your work a 
>> bit..(until it break and that you get something to redesign...!!)
>>
>> so the easiest way would be as you said straight axel, it's strong and 
>> easy to put togethere and not a mistake because you will get your project 
>> going foward compare to have it wasting space somwhere...
>>
>> It's ruff on the ride and not as good looking as a workable suspension...
>>
>> Anyway you will probably get something to fix later and get the 
>> opportunity to rework on a workable suspension later..! 
>>
>> Then you can design a suspension with srings, piano wires or any idea 
>> thats come to you because it won't mather since you will get your tank 
>> rolling..!?
>> (even buy FoA suspension (that I did on my SU-76 cause I was tired of 
>> figuring the suspension out(expensive but worth every bucks in not worry 
>> about that anymore...))
>>
>> That's what Idid on my T-70 to get it go in no time( put bolts directly 
>> trougth an aluminum angle)
>>
>>
>> So good luck and get the project going fwd!
>>
>> Jean-Maxime Cyr St-Pierre
>>
>> 2017-08-28 12:54 GMT-04:00 Loic > >:
>>
>>> Oups, sorry, suspension is here 
>>> http://www.fieldofarmortanks.com/foa014rc-mpss-combat-r-c-suspension-system-for-kingtiger-tank/
>>>  
>>>
>>> Same suspension as for the Kingtiger
>>>
>>>  
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Re: [TANKS] Suspension Guidance

[Ghost Division]

Thanks for the response! I had emailed Joe and my son and I will be trying
to get a running lower chassis going with straight axels. I will upgrade to
a working suspension when we can. I have been trying to figure out how to
pour my treadmill track cleats in resin but so far I do not think I have it
figured out. I may have to go the hardwood method and then figure out the
resin pours. I found a local craft store that has rubber mold and resin
kits; just need to take the time to pick some up and experiment. Still not
sure how to color the clear resin black to save having to keep repainting
it.

See ya,

Pat

On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 4:41 AM, J-MaxRC  wrote:

> Hello Pat!
>
> Realy not much anwsering those days here Kind of sad...
>
> Building tanks is hard as you've seen it..!! So the best you can do is to
> get the thing running as fast as possible to at least enjoy your work a
> bit..(until it break and that you get something to redesign...!!)
>
> so the easiest way would be as you said straight axel, it's strong and
> easy to put togethere and not a mistake because you will get your project
> going foward compare to have it wasting space somwhere...
>
> It's ruff on the ride and not as good looking as a workable suspension...
>
> Anyway you will probably get something to fix later and get the
> opportunity to rework on a workable suspension later..!
>
> Then you can design a suspension with srings, piano wires or any idea
> thats come to you because it won't mather since you will get your tank
> rolling..!?
> (even buy FoA suspension (that I did on my SU-76 cause I was tired of
> figuring the suspension out(expensive but worth every bucks in not worry
> about that anymore...))
>
> That's what Idid on my T-70 to get it go in no time( put bolts directly
> trougth an aluminum angle)
>
>
> So good luck and get the project going fwd!
>
> Jean-Maxime Cyr St-Pierre
>
> 2017-08-28 12:54 GMT-04:00 Loic :
>
>> Oups, sorry, suspension is here http://www.fieldofarmortanks.c
>> om/foa014rc-mpss-combat-r-c-suspension-system-for-kingtiger-tank/
>>
>> Same suspension as for the Kingtiger
>>
>>
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Re: [TANKS] cheapest easiest way to build one of these machines

[J-MaxRC]

Hello Weston!

There no cheapest easiest rc tank I would say... Having tracks make
everything hard and complex. Building the hull is the easy part whatever
you do but the tracks, suspension, and motors arrangement is the hard
part..!

the PzIII probably not the easiest with the number of parts envolve in the
suspension but that your choice asnd that all rigth..!!

You will want a true ESC like the sabberthooth 3X32 from dimension
engenering (that's what I like to use since it's the cheapest and reliable
at least for me...) if you want true control of your tank and it's easier
to get the electronics working with a receiver and everything..!

Building the hull from wood only is very easy and no need of extra
renforcement at all, that what I did with my RSO tractor and T-70 tank

Details like the comander coupola are just extras, your biggest goal is to
get the hull running on it's tracks... the rest is ''figurable''

For the Tracks, i'm not sure thats hinges and bolts are the cheapest ways
or the easiest way, I'm using TTS (Tyng-Track-System!) And it did the job
well so far!

I would recomand a fix suspension to start (easy and cheaper) Your first
goal would be to get the running gear working the rest of the hull and gun
and details arethe easy parts.!!

If you got other technical questions I can try to help you out as much as
can.!!

Good luck!

Jean-Maxime Cyr St-Pierre

2017-09-21 19:39 GMT-04:00 Weston :

> Hello
>
> I've been a lurker mostly, and I haven't built anything, but I've wanted
> to. I've posted some time ago, but I just have never had the funds to make
> one of these. I think now that if I can build one cheap enough, I can
> eventually piece one together.
>
> I'm looking at the SU-76I to build, as it is a simple tank destroyer, it
> shouldn't be too hard. I also plan to have the gun only go up and down, to
> cut cost and complexity. I would like at least a high and low type of
> drive, for finer adjustments being I am taking that away from the gun. if
> not I may just have to fork out the money for a ESC, I'm more likely to
> want to have variable speed drive over gun traverse.
>
> I'm not sure how I want to go about anything. I will have to buy
> everything, so I'm going to want to go as cheap as possible. I don't have
> much in the way of tools either, so no fancy machining. I can go over to
> relatives to work on things if I have to, but I would like to try to make
> as much as possible myself. I even would have to go over to a relatives
> house to make the hull.
>
> I was thinking that the hinge track system might be the best for me to
> build, doesn't seem like anything other than buying the hinges and bolts
> would be needed. I'm just not sure how that would look on the Panzer 3 hull
> of the SU-76I. I would also most likely need to buy the road and drive
> wheels, and the little return rollers (whatever the ones on top are
> called). but if there is a better system out there, I will look at it.
>
> for the hull I was thinking of making it out of wood, painting the wood,
> and then covering it with some Plexiglas or Lexan for extra strength and
> protection of the paint job. not sure If I want to add the command cupola
> to it or not, would make it a bit more difficult to build, but would give a
> bit more room, and could use the cupola to feed the hopper, or something
> like that.
>
> other than that I don't know where to start. any suggestions?
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