Re: [TANKS] Paintball and the Law
A battler must the first words of the statement, not "non-battlers/spectators" chris In a message dated 2/7/2014 9:46:07 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, buttsakau...@gmail.com writes: To me it reads that non-battlers are to stay out from behind vehicles and weapon systems. While battlers are expected to be in said location and can/will be shot on occasion. Mike Butts Sent from my iPhone On Feb 7, 2014, at 9:41 PM, _OdysseySlipways@aol.com_ (mailto:odysseyslipw...@aol.com) wrote: i do question the wording of # 7 Awareness - A battler must be aware of all objects down-range from a valid target at all times, including spectators, cars and building, and should avoid hitting them whenever possible. This does not apply to battlers who are standing behind their vehicles or weapons systems why does this not apply to someone standing behind their vehicle that they are battling with? what i read in the first part makes it sound like it applies to individuals who are standing anywhere but behind their vehicles, but the ones that are standing behind them are exempt from the rule maybe just do away with the last sentence? chris -- -- You are currently subscribed to the "R/C Tank Combat" group. To post a message, send email to _rctankcombat@googlegroups.com_ (mailto:rctankcombat@googlegroups.com) To unsubscribe, send email to _rctankcombat+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com_ (mailto:rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com) Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "R/C Tank Combat" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to _rctankcombat+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com_ (mailto:rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com) . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- You are currently subscribed to the "R/C Tank Combat" group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "R/C Tank Combat" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- You are currently subscribed to the "R/C Tank Combat" group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "R/C Tank Combat" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [TANKS] Paintball and the Law
To me it reads that non-battlers are to stay out from behind vehicles and weapon systems. While battlers are expected to be in said location and can/will be shot on occasion. Mike Butts Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 7, 2014, at 9:41 PM, odysseyslipw...@aol.com wrote: > > i do question the wording of # 7 > > Awareness - A battler must be aware of all objects down-range from a valid > target at all times, including spectators, cars and building, and should > avoid hitting them whenever possible. This does not apply to battlers who are > standing behind their vehicles or weapons systems > > why does this not apply to someone standing behind their vehicle that they > are battling with? what i read in the first part makes it sound like it > applies to individuals who are standing anywhere but behind their vehicles, > but the ones that are standing behind them are exempt from the rule > > maybe just do away with the last sentence? > > chris > -- > -- > You are currently subscribed to the "R/C Tank Combat" group. > To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat > > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "R/C Tank Combat" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- You are currently subscribed to the "R/C Tank Combat" group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "R/C Tank Combat" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [TANKS] Paintball and the Law
i do question the wording of # 7 Awareness - A battler must be aware of all objects down-range from a valid target at all times, including spectators, cars and building, and should avoid hitting them whenever possible. This does not apply to battlers who are standing behind their vehicles or weapons systems why does this not apply to someone standing behind their vehicle that they are battling with? what i read in the first part makes it sound like it applies to individuals who are standing anywhere but behind their vehicles, but the ones that are standing behind them are exempt from the rule maybe just do away with the last sentence? chris -- -- You are currently subscribed to the "R/C Tank Combat" group. To post a message, send email to rctankcombat@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe, send email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Visit the group at http://groups.google.com/group/rctankcombat --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "R/C Tank Combat" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rctankcombat+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[TANKS] Paintball and the Law
Hello fellow tankers. I built a HTML page about "Paintball and the Law". It will be posted on the FOA website. I wanted to show this page to you guys first, especially because I used a lot of info from the RC Tank Combat website on the safety tips. Let me know if you think I should add/subtract anything! Many people are "scared" of this hobby because of its potential liability. I have already been chastised from a "third party outside our hobby" because I shot Neil by accident while attending my parked tank. If I followed the rules below, the shot would not have hit Neil, almost suppressing him of his manhood! I DO NOT SEE anywhere that it is against any laws of any country to remotely shoot a paintball from a remotely controlled vehicle. The proposed PA laws quoted below is for PEOPLE inside cars shooting from the cars. Cheers from snowy Utah, Loic *Paintball and the Law* *[Updated February 2014]* *This series of articles is not meant to be a substitute of the ignorance of the law in your Local, State, and Country. Please check your rights in your location before using a "Paintball Marker". * *Please be responsible and vigilant in the use of your Paintball Marker. Make sure you are wearing protective equipment for yourself and everybody around you.* Safety Recommendations from Field of Armor Tanks: 1. *Responsibility *- Battler and Spectator safety is the responsibility of all battlers and the following rules apply at all times during a battling event, or transporting to/from a battling event. 2. *Location* - make sure you use your Paintball equipment in a "paintball friendly" location. *Outdoors* outside city limits/roads/houses, *Indoors* inside Paintball shooting range 3. *Transportation* - Always disconnect the gas feed. Ammo trays should be emptied and ammo safely stored in an appropriate container. Gas cylinders should be stored away from any heat source (sun or gas heater) 4. *Protective Equipment* - All battlers must wear a full face mask whenever paintball markers are armed. Fixed-position cameramen may forego a face mask when standing behind an equivalent shield. Always wear full face mask to avoid permanent eye or ear injury. A paintball firing at 275 fps (200 mph) might break the skin, but might only make a small welt or bruise depending on the layers of clothes. 5. *Safety Precautions* - Paintball markers may be armed and fired only when and where specifically authorized by the "Contest Director". At all other times, the gas ON/OFF valve must be off and the muzzle plug or muzzle cap must be in place. Barrels should always be directed away from traffic when not in use. Incidental firing sometimes occurs when dealing with solenoids and remote control firing equipment. 6. *Shooting* - A battler may not deliberately target or shoot at anything other than a vehicle, weapon system or practice target at any time, including other battlers. Violations of this rule will be dealt with severely by the "Contest Director". 7. *Awareness* - A battler must be aware of all objects down-range from a valid target at all times, including spectators, cars and building, and should avoid hitting them whenever possible. This does not apply to battlers who are standing behind their vehicles or weapons systems 8. *Time-Out* - If any battler announces *Cease Fire* then all vehicles must immediately halt and no markers may be fired. When the "Contest Director" determines that the game may resume, only he may announce *Resume*, at which point all battlers may proceed. A Cease Fire should only be called when a potential safety problem exists. Some of the above rules are graciously provided by *RC Tank Combat *website http://www.rctankcombat.com/rules/ In the United States there are eight states that regulate paintball guns or paintball activities in a number of different ways, according to http://www.cga.ct.gov/2008/rpt/2008-r-0571.htm. Within these eight states, many different laws regulate the use and transportation of such weapons, and carry a variety of consequences. Weapon - In some states, paintball guns have been classified as a "weapon." Laws regulating the sale, use or transportation of weapons can and do apply to paintball guns in New York and New Jersey. A New York Supreme Court judge ruled that a gun using carbon dioxide was an "air-gun" and was within the aegis of the state's Penal Law. Minors - Three states--Illinois, New Hampshire and Rhode Island--have laws regulating the sale of a paintball gun to, and the possession of a paintball gun by, minors. New Hampshire and Rhode Island both prohibit individuals under 18 years old from buying or owning a paintball gun, and Illinois prohibits those under than 13