[TANKS] Re: New here and thinking of building a half track

2010-04-07 Thread Forlorn Foundry
I still have to test them, but with the right alloys thay should hold
up well especially with a full suspension system. Once I get it moving
I plan on running a lot of tests including some small jumps.

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[TANKS] Re: New here and thinking of building a half track

2010-04-07 Thread Pete Arundel
Will cast alloy swing arms be strong enough? My (limited) experience
of alluminium castings is that they are light but not very strong.

On Apr 7, 1:59 am, Forlorn Foundry  wrote:
> I think I've worked out my steering. I have an old Vantec RDFR23 dual
> speed control that will be running two dewalt Drill motors. A Y-
> harness connect the steering servo for the front wheels too the
> steering side of the Vantec. Thanks for the help with that guys, I'll
> keep you updated.
> I cast some of the road wheels and swing arms this past 
> weekendhttp://i804.photobucket.com/albums/yy326/ForlornFoundry/DSC00596.jpg
> 10 more and I'll have a full set. Still need to make
> up the patterns for the sprocket and tracks.

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[TANKS] Re: New here and thinking of building a half track

2010-04-06 Thread Forlorn Foundry
I think I've worked out my steering. I have an old Vantec RDFR23 dual
speed control that will be running two dewalt Drill motors. A Y-
harness connect the steering servo for the front wheels too the
steering side of the Vantec. Thanks for the help with that guys, I'll
keep you updated.
I cast some of the road wheels and swing arms this past weekend
http://i804.photobucket.com/albums/yy326/ForlornFoundry/DSC00596.jpg
10 more and I'll have a full set. Still need to make
up the patterns for the sprocket and tracks.

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Re: [TANKS] Re: New here and thinking of building a half track

2010-04-06 Thread OdysseySlipways
OH NICE! (the castings that is)
 
Chris,
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[TANKS] Re: New here and thinking of building a half track

2010-04-06 Thread Forlorn Foundry


I think i'v worked out my steering. I have an old Vantec RDFR23 Dual
speed control that will be running two dewalt Drill motors. A Y
harness connect the steering servo for the front wheels two the
steering side of the Vantec. Thanks for the help with that guys, ill
keep you updated.

I cast some of the road wheels and swing arms this past weekend
[IMG]http://i804.photobucket.com/albums/yy326/ForlornFoundry/
DSC00596.jpg[/IMG] 10 more and ill have a full set. Still need to make
up the patterns for the sprocket and tracks.

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Re: [TANKS] Re: New here and thinking of building a half track

2010-03-28 Thread Derek Engelhaupt
Sure, I have someI got mine at Radio Shack.

Derek
T065

On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 8:13 PM, Forlorn Foundry wrote:

> Thanks for the heads up.
>  I'll only be building the same type of clutch not the whole gearbox.
> The motor I'm using has a gearbox. One thing I'm having problems with
> is that on the plans it says to make the clutch shoes from PCB Epoxy/
> sheet 1.6 which I have searched for and can seem to find, anyone know
> were I can find some?
>
>
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[TANKS] Re: New here and thinking of building a half track

2010-03-28 Thread Forlorn Foundry
Thanks for the heads up.
 I'll only be building the same type of clutch not the whole gearbox.
The motor I'm using has a gearbox. One thing I'm having problems with
is that on the plans it says to make the clutch shoes from PCB Epoxy/
sheet 1.6 which I have searched for and can seem to find, anyone know
were I can find some?



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Re: [TANKS] Re: New here and thinking of building a half track

2010-03-28 Thread Derek Engelhaupt
Just to let you know, Cerjak's transmission is expensive to build.  It has
been discussed
here on more than a few occasions.  When I priced out the non-fabricated
parts a couple
of years ago, cost of gears, etc. was over $500.  Just a heads up.

Derek
T065

On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 9:31 AM, Forlorn Foundry wrote:

> Thanks for all the ideas. I'm still trying to decide how I'm going to
> do it. I did find this web site http://members.tele2.nl/s_weggeman/CG.htm.
> I'm thinking of going with a modified version of that clutch system
> and running a Y harness form the steering servo to a clutch servo.
>
>
> As for the cast aluminum tracks. It's just a matter of making the wood
> patterns. I think there's about 80 links total on a Sd.Kfz.250; so, if
> I do 10 track patterns that's 8 pours for both tracks--not too bad. I
> have been doing aluminum sand casting for years and own all my own
> equipment. Right now I'm working on 6 trophies for the local Ducati
> owners group, I also did there trophies last year.
> I'd be willing to do rough aluminum castings a little over cost for
> people here if anyone's interested. I can cast up to 10 lbs of
> aluminum per pour. I can make the patterns or you can send me a
> pattern you have made. I'll get some pics up when I start casting
> parts for my halftrack.
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[TANKS] Re: New here and thinking of building a half track

2010-03-28 Thread Forlorn Foundry
Thanks for all the ideas. I'm still trying to decide how I'm going to
do it. I did find this web site http://members.tele2.nl/s_weggeman/CG.htm.
I'm thinking of going with a modified version of that clutch system
and running a Y harness form the steering servo to a clutch servo.


As for the cast aluminum tracks. It's just a matter of making the wood
patterns. I think there's about 80 links total on a Sd.Kfz.250; so, if
I do 10 track patterns that's 8 pours for both tracks--not too bad. I
have been doing aluminum sand casting for years and own all my own
equipment. Right now I'm working on 6 trophies for the local Ducati
owners group, I also did there trophies last year.
I'd be willing to do rough aluminum castings a little over cost for
people here if anyone's interested. I can cast up to 10 lbs of
aluminum per pour. I can make the patterns or you can send me a
pattern you have made. I'll get some pics up when I start casting
parts for my halftrack.

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[TANKS] Re: New here and thinking of building a half track

2010-03-25 Thread Pete Arundel
I'm with Phil on this one but if you want to be authentic then the
easiest way would probably be to use individual track motors like a
tank and a Y harness connecting the steering servo to the mixer /
speed controller for the tracks. Would work best with a mixer that
allows you to set the maximum steering inputs to stop your half track
from doing a neutral turn at full lock.

On Mar 25, 6:12 pm, Phil  wrote:
> Hi Mr Foundry, good to have you on board. Looks an interesting
> project.
>
> Simplest way to do a half-track would be to have ordinary tank
> steering on the tracks and spring-loaded steering at the front so the
> wheels follow the tracks. That said, the brakes/diff solution is most
> authentic but you lose a lot of power on the turns and you've not got
> a lot of room for bits and pieces under the 1/2 track.
>
> Phil

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[TANKS] Re: New here and thinking of building a half track

2010-03-25 Thread Phil
Hi Mr Foundry, good to have you on board. Looks an interesting
project.

Simplest way to do a half-track would be to have ordinary tank
steering on the tracks and spring-loaded steering at the front so the
wheels follow the tracks. That said, the brakes/diff solution is most
authentic but you lose a lot of power on the turns and you've not got
a lot of room for bits and pieces under the 1/2 track.

Phil

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Re: [TANKS] Re: New here and thinking of building a half track

2010-03-24 Thread OdysseySlipways
i'm interested in hearing about the cast aluminum tracks
 
Chris,
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[TANKS] Re: New here and thinking of building a half track

2010-03-24 Thread copperhead
run a second servo in tandem with your steering servo.

then rig it to break the circuit for the inside of your turn. Loosing
power to the inside + steering the front wheels may do the trick.

you can also try using MAG switches (see speed controls section of the
website) because they act as electric speed brakes when "closed". when
you turn one direction or the other, the servo arm will move the
"inside" MAG swith to neutral - i.e. both switches open.

If you want to keep it simple and forego any kind of skid steering,
try using the axle from a large R/C truck like the Nylint Rock
Crawler. Their drive axles are posi-track so the tracks shouldnt fight
you when you turn.

- Martin

On Mar 21, 4:32 pm, Forlorn Foundry  wrote:
> Hello everyone, I just signed up for this group but have been reading
> it for months now.
>
> I'm keeping it small and building a (Sd.Kfz. 250/8) Neu with 5cm Pak
> 38.
>
> It will have 1/8 welded aluminum hull, cast aluminum tracks and
> running gear (with resin or rubber tires cast on to the rims), and
> torsion bar supension. Hopefully I'll be able to scratch built a
> paintball gun with simulated barrel recoil.
>
> The one thing I'm having trouble with is the track steering. I have a
> 1/4 scale servo that will turn the front wheels, but at a particular
> point I want the tracks to start skid steering. I want to run the
> tracks off one 18v dewalt drill motor. I'm thinking of using a small
> clutch on each side of the drive to release one side but still drive
> the other. Or I could use one differential in the middle and a brake
> for each side. I'm leaning more towards the duel cluch system.
>
> Has anyone here tried buliding a halftrack with this type of steering
> system? Let me know what you think either way!

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