Re: [TANKS] Re: hinges

[Gregory Kampjes]

I know the sort of hing you want, but I can't remember the name. Plus I
think they aren't particularly common these days, being superseded by the
new style cabinet hinges.

-Gregory

On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 6:23 AM,  wrote:

>   In a message dated 8/5/2010 12:10:05 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> steve...@gmail.com writes:
>
> Hinge it on the side of the turret.
>
> Steve
>
> have been looking at that
>
> Chris,
> Odyssey Slipways 
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Re: [TANKS] Re: hinges

[OdysseySlipways]

 
 
In a message dated 8/5/2010 12:10:05 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
steve...@gmail.com writes:

Hinge it  on the side of the turret.

Steve


have been looking at that
 
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Re: [TANKS] Re: hinges

[Bill Hamilton]

Or at the top front, lifting the sides and rear. 

-Bill Hamilton

On Aug 5, 2010, at 11:09 AM, Steve Tyng  wrote:

> Hinge it on the side of the turret.
> 
> Steve
> 
> 
> On Aug 5, 9:51 am, odysseyslipw...@aol.com wrote:
>> In a message dated 8/5/2010 7:44:46 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
>> 
>> sasquevane...@aol.com writes:
>> 
>> How  about a hinge at C and a hinge at A or B?
>> 
>> Phil "hinge manufacturers  need profits too" Palmer
>> 
>> because C just won't work, even if the bottom of the storage bin  was part
>> of the base of the turret, as to A or B, I was trying to find a way to  
>> expose everything within the turret all at once.  
>> 
>> Chris,
>> _Odyssey  Slipways_ (http://hometown.aol.com/odysseyslipways/index.html)
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[TANKS] Re: hinges

[Steve Tyng]

Hinge it on the side of the turret.

Steve


On Aug 5, 9:51 am, odysseyslipw...@aol.com wrote:
> In a message dated 8/5/2010 7:44:46 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
>
> sasquevane...@aol.com writes:
>
> How  about a hinge at C and a hinge at A or B?
>
> Phil "hinge manufacturers  need profits too" Palmer
>
> because C just won't work, even if the bottom of the storage bin  was part
> of the base of the turret, as to A or B, I was trying to find a way to  
> expose everything within the turret all at once.  
>
> Chris,
> _Odyssey  Slipways_ (http://hometown.aol.com/odysseyslipways/index.html)

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Re: [TANKS] Re: hinges

[OdysseySlipways]

 
 
In a message dated 8/5/2010 7:44:46 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
sasquevane...@aol.com writes:

How  about a hinge at C and a hinge at A or B?

Phil "hinge manufacturers  need profits too" Palmer


because C just won't work, even if the bottom of the storage bin  was part 
of the base of the turret, as to A or B, I was trying to find a way to  
expose everything within the turret all at once.  
 
Chris,
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[TANKS] Re: hinges

[Phil]

How about a hinge at C and a hinge at A or B?

Phil "hinge manufacturers need profits too" Palmer

On Aug 4, 2:28 pm, odysseyslipw...@aol.com wrote:
>  b
> a        \
> \ __o__
> |   |Bin                
> |   |__              
> |_|_  |__ Turret      
> /         |_|_base_
>               c           /
>                          d
>
> i was looking to hinge it at point C, i put how the floor of the turret  
> meets the rear of the turret. i thought the base of the bin was part of the  
> turret floor but it's not, it's part of the bin, making the hinge point
> further  forward to point D and that just won't work.
>
> i am looking at making the shell hinge forward, but if i don't like it,  
> i'll always go with removing it completely
>
> Chris,
> _Odyssey  Slipways_ (http://hometown.aol.com/odysseyslipways/index.html)

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Re: [TANKS] Re: hinges

[OdysseySlipways]

 
 
In a message dated 8/5/2010 1:22:10 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
sockles...@gmail.com writes:

You  could fabricate one.

-Gregory.


i have been thinking about that and even tried to doodle a few, but  
nothing i liked
 
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Re: [TANKS] Re: hinges

[Gregory Kampjes]

You could fabricate one.

-Gregory.

On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 1:28 AM,  wrote:

>b
>a   \
> \ __o__
>  |  |Bin
>  |  |__
>  |_|_  |__ Turret
>/ |_|_*base*_
>   c   /
>  d
>
>
> i was looking to hinge it at point C, i put how the floor of the turret
> meets the rear of the turret. i thought the base of the bin was part of the
> turret floor but it's not, it's part of the bin, making the hinge point
> further forward to point D and that just won't work.
>
> i am looking at making the shell hinge forward, but if i don't like it,
> i'll always go with removing it completely
>
> Chris,
> Odyssey Slipways 
>
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Re: [TANKS] Re: hinges

[OdysseySlipways]

 b
a\
\ __o__
|   |Bin
|   |__  
|_|_  |__ Turret  
/ |_|_base_
  c   /
 d
 
 
i was looking to hinge it at point C, i put how the floor of the turret  
meets the rear of the turret. i thought the base of the bin was part of the  
turret floor but it's not, it's part of the bin, making the hinge point 
further  forward to point D and that just won't work.
 
i am looking at making the shell hinge forward, but if i don't like it,  
i'll always go with removing it completely
 
Chris,
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[TANKS] Re: hinges

[Phil]

Suppose that you attach the turret bin to the base of the turret, and
have the hinge at point b like this:
  b
   a   \
\ __o__
 | Bin==
 |_   |
  |   Turret  |
  |___

You could put the hinge point at "a", but it would show, whereas at b
it looks like it's the bin hinge.

Phil

On Aug 4, 12:51 am, odysseyslipw...@aol.com wrote:
> In a message dated 8/3/2010 4:46:55 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
>
> ki4...@gmail.com writes:
>
> If you  lack table space for the top, build it strong enough to sit on
> while you  work on the hull.
>
> work space is always a problem. what i meant was if i ever make it to one  
> of the yearly robot something shows they have down south some of the guys go
> to,  i thought if it sat on a table or something, space might be limited
> and thought  if i could hinge the top of the turret, the turret could be
> opened up  so the inner workings could be displayed rather than taking it off 
> and
> possible  be under foot. that an if i run it anywhere local i could set it
> up on a park  bench for a bit for anyone interested could have a look-see
>
> Chris,
> _Odyssey  Slipways_ (http://hometown.aol.com/odysseyslipways/index.html)

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Re: [TANKS] Re: hinges

[OdysseySlipways]

 
 
In a message dated 8/3/2010 4:46:55 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
ki4...@gmail.com writes:

If you  lack table space for the top, build it strong enough to sit on
while you  work on the hull.

work space is always a problem. what i meant was if i ever make it to one  
of the yearly robot something shows they have down south some of the guys go 
to,  i thought if it sat on a table or something, space might be limited 
and thought  if i could hinge the top of the turret, the turret could be 
opened up  so the inner workings could be displayed rather than taking it off 
and 
possible  be under foot. that an if i run it anywhere local i could set it 
up on a park  bench for a bit for anyone interested could have a look-see

 
Chris,
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Re: [TANKS] Re: hinges

[Clark Ward Jr]

If you lack table space for the top, build it strong enough to sit on
while you work on the hull.

-- 
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Working feverishly to expand the Greater Southeast Georgia
Co-Prosperity Sphere!  Banzai!

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Re: [TANKS] Re: hinges

[OdysseySlipways]

 
 
In a message dated 8/3/2010 3:31:25 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
steve...@gmail.com writes:

Why hing  it at all?  Just make the entire top removable (a patent
pending  TyngTech innovation BTW ;-).

Steve


patent denied
 
ya, there's that too, unless there isn't any table space to place  it
 
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[TANKS] Re: hinges

[Steve Tyng]

Why hing it at all?  Just make the entire top removable (a patent
pending TyngTech innovation BTW ;-).

Steve


On Aug 3, 12:46 pm, odysseyslipw...@aol.com wrote:
> In a message dated 8/3/2010 10:37:53 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
>
> f...@thomson-online.org writes:
>
> Chris,
>
> What about using a pair of small, spring loaded gas  shocks?
>
> cheers,
> Fred
>
> the problem is, the lowest hinge point. part of the hinge body  attaches to
> the floor of the turret and the back storage container (or what ever  it
> might be called). the floor buts up against the back of the box, so if i put  
> a hinge in there, the back of th ebox will want to pivot down and under the  
> floor of the turret, binding it so it won't really open, and if i were to
> trim  the floor on a 50' angle, i'd end up hitting the top deck f the tank
> body.  that's why i thought maybe a mini hinge like you would find under the
> hood of a  car. the link Steve gave me did have one almost like that, but it
> required 5" of  space pretty much eating up that golden space within the
> turret.
>
> we just got back from mo's Dr's appointment and hope to get out into the  
> garage to look the turret over, see if maybe there is another way to work  it.
>
> the end result i was looking for, was to hinge the turret back at 90' so  
> there would be full access to the internal workings and also so it could be
> left  open for display at any future show (more so at that robot show or what
> ever it  is some of the guys go to yearly - if i could ever make that trip).
>
> i am also going to look at making it hinge just behind the mantle, near the
>  top and see if i can get it to flip forward with the same kind of  
> exposure.
>
> Chris,
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Re: [TANKS] Re: hinges

[OdysseySlipways]

 
 
In a message dated 8/3/2010 10:37:53 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
f...@thomson-online.org writes:

Chris,

What about using a pair of small, spring loaded gas  shocks?

cheers,
Fred


the problem is, the lowest hinge point. part of the hinge body  attaches to 
the floor of the turret and the back storage container (or what ever  it 
might be called). the floor buts up against the back of the box, so if i put  
a hinge in there, the back of th ebox will want to pivot down and under the  
floor of the turret, binding it so it won't really open, and if i were to 
trim  the floor on a 50' angle, i'd end up hitting the top deck f the tank 
body.  that's why i thought maybe a mini hinge like you would find under the 
hood of a  car. the link Steve gave me did have one almost like that, but it 
required 5" of  space pretty much eating up that golden space within the 
turret.
 
we just got back from mo's Dr's appointment and hope to get out into the  
garage to look the turret over, see if maybe there is another way to work  it.
 
the end result i was looking for, was to hinge the turret back at 90' so  
there would be full access to the internal workings and also so it could be 
left  open for display at any future show (more so at that robot show or what 
ever it  is some of the guys go to yearly - if i could ever make that trip).
 
i am also going to look at making it hinge just behind the mantle, near the 
 top and see if i can get it to flip forward with the same kind of  
exposure.
 
Chris,
_Odyssey  Slipways_ (http://hometown.aol.com/odysseyslipways/index.html) 

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[TANKS] Re: hinges

[Fred Thomson]

Chris,

 What about using a pair of small, spring loaded gas shocks?

cheers,
Fred

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Re: [TANKS] Re: hinges

[OdysseySlipways]

stupid, stupid me i'm looking at making the hinge point at the  
bottom of that compartment on the rear of the turret - the problem i kept 
having  was when the turret would flip back, there would e a small portion that 
would  hit the deck of the tank an prevent it from opening up fully.
 
but it just dawned on me (might have been due to a yawn and the extra  
oxygen to the brain for a brief moment) what if i where cut the compartment  
maybe an inch from the base and make it hinge there  Doh!
 
i'll look that idea over tomorrow after we get back from mom's doctor  
appointment in the moring
 
Chris,
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Re: [TANKS] Re: hinges

[OdysseySlipways]

 
 
In a message dated 8/2/2010 12:40:00 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
steve...@gmail.com writes:

Maybe a  No-Bore Concealed Hinge is what your looking for.  Look
through the  links on this page and dig into the install diagrams to
get an idea of how  these hinges  work.

http://www.hardwaresource.com/hinges/CABINET+HINGES/Surface+Mount
ed+Cabinet+Hinges/No-Bore+Concealed+Hinges


Steve


just finished looking through their hinges, and thought i found a set  or 
two that could work, but won't. i may have to re-think how i was going to  
open the turret, maybe i'll see about having it tilt forward
 
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Re: [TANKS] Re: hinges

[OdysseySlipways]

 
 
In a message dated 8/2/2010 12:40:00 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
steve...@gmail.com writes:

Maybe a  No-Bore Concealed Hinge is what your looking for.  Look
through the  links on this page and dig into the install diagrams to
get an idea of how  these hinges  work.

http://www.hardwaresource.com/hinges/CABINET+HINGES/Surface+Mounted+Cabinet+
Hinges/No-Bore+Concealed+Hinges


Steve


can't use any of the ones shown on that page, but there is still a  hole 
list to go through (tonight), thanks for the link
 
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[TANKS] Re: hinges

[Steve Tyng]

Maybe a No-Bore Concealed Hinge is what your looking for.  Look
through the links on this page and dig into the install diagrams to
get an idea of how these hinges work.

http://www.hardwaresource.com/hinges/CABINET+HINGES/Surface+Mounted+Cabinet+Hinges/No-Bore+Concealed+Hinges


Steve


On Aug 2, 1:57 am, odysseyslipw...@aol.com wrote:
> i am looking for a special kind of hinge (don't even know if one like this  
> even exist).
>
> what i am looking for is one that doesn't just hinge, but it needs to lift  
> the idem up and away. sort of like a hood hinge on a car, but don't think i
> need  the spring as it'll be going 90' +
>
> i have a turret that i want to hinge from the back, but in order for it to  
> work, it needs to lift the turret up and away from the hull just a little
> bit  and pit it at least at a 90' angle
>
> anyone know of something i can use? I was over at HomeDepot yesterday and  
> didn't find anything i wanted. i looked at door hinges (knew i wouldn't find
>  anything there, but looked anyway), i also looked at cabinet door hinges  
> thinking i'd find what i wanted there, but none of them worked the way i
> needed  them to.
>
> when i am back down that way again this week, i'll check Lowe's
>
> Chris,
> _Odyssey  Slipways_ (http://hometown.aol.com/odysseyslipways/index.html)

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