RE: [TANKS] Torsion spring making

2016-10-08 Thread Jean St-Pierre 
Good !!! Let us updated as you can!!

Le 8 oct. 2016 3:38 AM, "taranaki tanker"  a
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> Well I have been busy lately and have got 3pairs of torsion springs made.
> Put the wheels on, loaded her up with batteries and assorted junk till she
> felt heavy and the springs only deflected 30 mm which bought her down to a
> scale height. Just wish I could post pics but I haven't worked that out on
> the phone yet
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RE: [TANKS] Torsion spring making

2016-10-08 Thread taranaki tanker 
Well I have been busy lately and have got 3pairs of torsion springs made. Put 
the wheels on, loaded her up with batteries and assorted junk till she felt 
heavy and the springs only deflected 30 mm which bought her down to a scale 
height. Just wish I could post pics but I haven't worked that out on the phone 
yet 

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RE: [TANKS] Torsion spring making

2016-09-27 Thread Ben Holko 
sorry never weighed it, but I would guess at least 30kg if not 40. The 
suspension could be softer, but be careful the softer you go the better in one 
way, but the more risk of throwing tracks



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Hey thanks for the info mate, what do you reckon your m113 weighs in at, I'm 
probably looking at a all up weight of about 25-30 kgs.Do you have a good 
deflection from the suspension?

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RE: [TANKS] Torsion spring making

2016-09-26 Thread taranaki tanker 
Hey thanks for the info mate, what do you reckon your m113 weighs in at, I'm 
probably looking at a all up weight of about 25-30 kgs.Do you have a good 
deflection from the suspension? 

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Re: [TANKS] Torsion spring making

2016-09-26 Thread taranaki tanker 
Hey thanks Mike, nice to see I got something right. :) Will have to start 
posting pictures when I get a chance to. 

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RE: [TANKS] Torsion spring making

2016-09-26 Thread Ben Holko 
My 1/6 scale M113 uses 6.3mm torsion bars, it could go a bit lighter depends on 
total weight. The chassis is a 2mm steel bent tub and fairly heavy steel wheels 
that I made.

B


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 After digging out SV15 and measuring the wire, it has 5/32" wire which 
actually comes out to 3.9 mm.  Looks like your call for 4mm wire is spot on.  :)

 The SV15 chassis was originally for a 1/6 scale M113.  :)

Mike



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Hey thanks for the info mate. What would be a good size wire to use on a 1/6th 
m113 fsv? Something about 2-3 mm be good enough? Am a bit limited on the sizes 
I can get hold of for a decent price, 1,8 meters for$15 nz


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Re: [TANKS] Torsion spring making

2016-09-26 Thread 'Mike Mangus' via R/C Tank Combat 
 After digging out SV15 and measuring the wire, it has 5/32" wire which 
actually comes out to 3.9 mm.  Looks like your call for 4mm wire is spot on.  :)
 The SV15 chassis was originally for a 1/6 scale M113.  :)
Mike


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Hey thanks for the info mate. What would be a good size wire to use on a 1/6th 
m113 fsv? Something about 2-3 mm be good enough? Am a bit limited on the sizes 
I can get hold of for a decent price, 1,8 meters for$15 nz 

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Re: [TANKS] Torsion spring making

2016-09-26 Thread taranaki tanker 
Hey thanks for the info mate. What would be a good size wire to use on a 1/6th 
m113 fsv? Something about 2-3 mm be good enough? Am a bit limited on the sizes 
I can get hold of for a decent price, 1,8 meters for$15 nz 

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Re: [TANKS] Torsion spring making

2016-09-25 Thread 'Mike Mangus' via R/C Tank Combat 
4mm is pretty thick.  I used about that when making arms for a 1/6 Merkava and 
it turned out to be way too stiff.  I could stand in the tank (230 pounds) and 
the suspension would barely deflect.  SV015 used thinner wire which turned out 
to be about right for a 50 pound tank.
The wire I used was hobby shop music wire for airplanes.  They were not heated 
or annealed before bending.  I did break a couple yet most bends were just 
fine.  Each wire was clamped in a vice and hammered over to bend.  If I was 
doing it today, I would invest in a quality wire bender and use more radius to 
keep the wire from kinking at the bend.

For a simple suspension system, it works very well.  It is not scale, but it 
works amazingly well.  :)
Mike M

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Was wondering if anyone has an idea for bending up 4mm spring wire to make 
torsion bars like Mike Magnus did for the SV015 spartan. Tried to bend one into 
shape and it broke on the the second bend. Would spot annealing with a gas 
torch help. 




   

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Re: [TANKS] Torsion spring making

2016-09-23 Thread Jean St-Pierre 
Are you using real piano wires?? I made some testing with 3/16 piano(5mm)
wires with no issues... But if it's like the wires for push rod in
airplanes sometimes you buy bad quality wires and it break every time!!
Maybe check on that.

Jean-Maxime Cyr St-Pierre

Le 23 sept. 2016 10:29 PM, "taranaki tanker"  a
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> Yeah been thinking about that, but don't know of any other way around the
> problem of the steel breaking, thinking the rod could be too thick. Might
> have to source a lighter gauge of rod
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Re: [TANKS] Torsion spring making

2016-09-23 Thread taranaki tanker 
Yeah been thinking about that, but don't know of any other way around the 
problem of the steel breaking, thinking the rod could be too thick. Might have 
to source a lighter gauge of rod 

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Re: [TANKS] Torsion spring making

2016-09-23 Thread isaac goldman 
Wouldnt annealing ruin the spring by definition? Youd then need to
re-harden them.





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On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 9:52 PM, taranaki tanker  wrote:

> Was wondering if anyone has an idea for bending up 4mm spring wire to make
> torsion bars like Mike Magnus did for the SV015 spartan. Tried to bend one
> into shape and it broke on the the second bend. Would spot annealing with a
> gas torch help.
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