Re: [RDA-L] ISSN placement in 490

2013-05-29 Thread Peter Schouten
As I see it, double is best for machine readable semantics (preferred), for 
humans it could suffice to present both $x and $v only once as last element 
(but we don't do that with $v because we want to maintain the language of the 
resource in transcription fields).

Peter


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[mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] Namens Adam L. Schiff
Verzonden: donderdag 30 mei 2013 1:43
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Onderwerp: [RDA-L] ISSN placement in 490

I've got a question about where to record the ISSN when there is both a series 
title proper and a parallel series title.  RDA doesn't provide any guidance or 
examples for this situation.

Consider this situation:

Series Title Proper: Frankfurt contributions to natural history Numbering 
Within Series: volume 55

Parallel Series Title Proper: Frankfurter Beitrage zur Naturkunde Parallel 
Numbering Within Series: Band 55

ISSN appears once in the resource: 1613-2327

For ISBD punctuation, RDA appendix D tells us that a comma precedes the ISSN, 
but it doesn't tell us where to put the ISSN when there is a series title 
proper and a parallel series title proper.  I went to the ISBD consolidated and 
it doesn't address this situation EXCEPT with this
example:

. -- (Title proper of series, ISSN ; numbering within series = Parallel title 
of series, ISSN ; parallel numbering within series)

Based on the ISBD example, it seems that we should repeat the ISSN:

490 1_ $a Frankfurt contributions to natural history, $x 1613-2327 ; $v volume 
55 = $a Frankfurter Beitrage zur Naturkunde, $x 1613-2327 ; $v Band
55

Is this what we should do in RDA?  Or should we just record the ISSN once, and 
if so, does it go after the series title proper or after the parallel series 
title?

--Adam Schiff

^^
Adam L. Schiff
Principal Cataloger
University of Washington Libraries
Box 352900
Seattle, WA 98195-2900
(206) 543-8409
(206) 685-8782 fax
asch...@u.washington.edu
http://faculty.washington.edu/~aschiff
~~


[RDA-L] ISSN placement in 490

2013-05-29 Thread Adam L. Schiff
I've got a question about where to record the ISSN when there is both a 
series title proper and a parallel series title.  RDA doesn't provide any 
guidance or examples for this situation.


Consider this situation:

Series Title Proper: Frankfurt contributions to natural history
Numbering Within Series: volume 55

Parallel Series Title Proper: Frankfurter Beitrage zur Naturkunde
Parallel Numbering Within Series: Band 55

ISSN appears once in the resource: 1613-2327

For ISBD punctuation, RDA appendix D tells us that a comma precedes the 
ISSN, but it doesn't tell us where to put the ISSN when there is a series 
title proper and a parallel series title proper.  I went to the ISBD 
consolidated and it doesn't address this situation EXCEPT with this 
example:


. -- (Title proper of series, ISSN ; numbering within series = Parallel 
title of series, ISSN ; parallel numbering within series)


Based on the ISBD example, it seems that we should repeat the ISSN:

490 1_ $a Frankfurt contributions to natural history, $x 1613-2327 ; $v 
volume 55 = $a Frankfurter Beitrage zur Naturkunde, $x 1613-2327 ; $v Band 
55


Is this what we should do in RDA?  Or should we just record the ISSN once, 
and if so, does it go after the series title proper or after the parallel 
series title?


--Adam Schiff

^^
Adam L. Schiff
Principal Cataloger
University of Washington Libraries
Box 352900
Seattle, WA 98195-2900
(206) 543-8409
(206) 685-8782 fax
asch...@u.washington.edu
http://faculty.washington.edu/~aschiff
~~


Re: [RDA-L] Early distribution

2013-05-29 Thread J. McRee Elrod
Diane Goodman  wrote:


>... don't we often get information from elsewhere? The information in
>bib. records that is in brackets

If the publisher website says it was published a year earlier, fine.  
If there is no evidence other than early distribution, I think not.
  
Remember the fuss when some libraries made a Harry Potter book
available before the announced publication date, because they had it?  
Early distribution is common so that the item is in stock when
officially "published".

>[Chevy Chase, MD] : $b Now You Know Media, $c 2012. 

There is no rule, AACR2 or RDA, which approves providing a postal code
in brackets.  It should be "[Md.]" in AACR2, "[Maryland]" in RDA, if
provided.


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[RDA-L] RDA Task Force Forums at ALA Annual

2013-05-29 Thread Abbas, June M.
Please join us for the following RDA Task Force Forums at ALA Annual 2013.

RDA Update Forum

Brief Description:
The Cataloging and Metadata Management Section (CaMMS) and the RDA Conference 
Forums and Programs Task Force (TF) are co-sponsoring the ALA Annual RDA Update 
Forum. Please join us on Sunday June 30, 2013 from 1:00-2:30 in Room E350 in 
McCormick Place for The Cataloging and Metadata Management Section (CaMMS) RDA 
Conference Forums and Programs Task Force (TF) ALA Final RDA Update Forum. 
Panelists will provide updates to RDA as well as resources to consult for 
future updates after implementation. Scheduled presenters include: Beacher 
Wiggins (Library of Congress), Phil Schreur (Chair PCC), Glenn Patton (OCLC), 
John Attig (JSC update), and Troy Linker (ALA Publishing).



Vendor Update Forum
Brief Description:
How Will RDA Impact Your System?: A Forum Of Vendors Discussing Implementation 
Plans
Now that Resource Description and Access (RDA) has been implemented in the U.S. 
national libraries, it is time to hear from the vendors that design our 
integrated library systems and bibliographic utilities. What changes will they 
make to accommodate changes introduced in RDA? How will these changes impact 
library staff workflows and ultimately the library user's experience? Come to 
this session on Sunday, June 30, 2013 from 8:30-10:00 in Room E350 of McCormick 
Place and hear the vendors discuss their development plans and timelines for 
implementing required changes. Representatives from ILS Vendors Sirsi/Dynyx, 
Polaris, ExLibris/Voyager, III, Follett, TLC, and VTLS will present their plans 
and will entertain questions and comments about their proposed system changes.



RDA Implementation Stories and Strategies
Brief Description:
Join us on Sunday, June 30, 2013 from 3:00-5:30 in Room N427bc in McCormick 
Place to be regaled by stories about the implementation of RDA. "Storytellers" 
will include representatives from multiple contexts including academic, school 
and public libraries, as well as international training. Each will discuss 
their individual implementation of RDA and compare and contrast experiences 
between their different environments. Come and share your experiences with 
everyone!!



June



June Abbas, Ph.D.
Associate Professor
School of Library and Information Studies
College of Arts and Sciences
The University of Oklahoma
401 W. Brooks, Bizzell Library
Norman, OK 73069
405-325-3921
jmab...@ou.edu


Re: [RDA-L] Bibframe

2013-05-29 Thread Joseph, Angelina
Thanks to everyone on clarifying what exactly BibFrame is. I printed out the 
link that Sally sent out. Mac, and all who responded to me on this, thank you.
--angelina joseph 

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Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Bibframe

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[mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Bernhard Eversberg
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 11:38 PM
To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA
Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Bibframe

28.05.2013 23:45, J. McRee Elrod:
> Angelina Joseph asked:
>
>> Every now and then I see the word "Bibframe" in emails. Is it 
>> replacing MAR= C? How is that going to be?
>
> You will have answers from those more in the loop than I, but there is 
> my *very* biased answer.
>
> Bibframe is a work in progress, so no one knows if/when it will 
>replace MARC.
>...

LC's Sally McCallum on May 24 informed the VBIBFRAME community thus:

http://listserv.loc.gov/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind1305&L=bibframe&T=0&P=43920



And this is but one example of the openness of the Bibframe development process 
of which I am very impressed. We catalogers do have a chance to monitor and 
influence the development of our future toolset. There are several first rate 
info sci people working on this but as Mac wrote there seems to be a lack of 
frontline cataloger input at this point (not absent, just a minority).

Michael Mitchell
Technical Services Librarian
Brazosport College
Lake Jackson, TX
Michael.mitchell at brazosport.edu


Re: [RDA-L] Bibframe

2013-05-29 Thread Mitchell, Michael
-Original Message-
From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access 
[mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Bernhard Eversberg
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 11:38 PM
To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA
Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Bibframe

28.05.2013 23:45, J. McRee Elrod:
> Angelina Joseph asked:
>
>> Every now and then I see the word "Bibframe" in emails. Is it 
>> replacing MAR= C? How is that going to be?
>
> You will have answers from those more in the loop than I, but there is 
> my *very* biased answer.
>
> Bibframe is a work in progress, so no one knows if/when it will  
>replace MARC.
>...

LC's Sally McCallum on May 24 informed the VBIBFRAME community thus:

http://listserv.loc.gov/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind1305&L=bibframe&T=0&P=43920



And this is but one example of the openness of the Bibframe development process 
of which I am very impressed. We catalogers do have a chance to monitor and 
influence the development of our future toolset. There are several first rate 
info sci people working on this but as Mac wrote there seems to be a lack of 
frontline cataloger input at this point (not absent, just a minority).

Michael Mitchell
Technical Services Librarian
Brazosport College
Lake Jackson, TX
Michael.mitchell at brazosport.edu