[RDA-L] RDA data entry form

[Senator Jeong]

HI, RDA folks,

I'm new to this mailing list.

I'm designing a RDA cataloging system for Korea National Medical Library,
which will inaugurate next year.
Is there any graphic user interface(GUI) for RDA data entry?
I mean by RDA data entry GUI which does not follow MARC data entry legacy
(e.g., 100, 245, 260.).

Regards,
---
Senator Jeong, MLIS, PhD
Principal Researcher,
National Center for Medical Information & Knowledge,
Korea National Institute of Health
 http://orcid.org/000-0002-4004-3510 
Email: sena...@korea.kr , senatorje...@gmail.com
Mobile: +82-10-4310-4013
Office: +43-719-6628
Twitter: twitter.com/senatorjeong

Re: [RDA-L] 7.17 Colour content

[Brenndorfer, Thomas]

>From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access 
>[RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Karen Nelson [knel...@capilanou.ca]
>Sent: July-24-13 12:36 PM
>To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA
>Subject: [RDA-L] 7.17 Colour content

>I have read the RDA ToolKit instructions over and over, and looked at the 
>workflows, and checked online…

>Can’t see that RDA actually says much about “how”, but online I am seeing a 
>whole lot of versions of how the recording of colour content is to be done. 
>Are we agreed on anything?

>I have seen:

>300  45 p. : illustrations in colour
>300  45 p. : coloured illustrations

>300  45 p. : illustrations, some coloured
>300  45 p. : illustrations, some in colour

>300  45 p. : illustrations, chiefly coloured
>300 45 p. : chiefly coloured illustrations

>And many similar, but with the usual parentheses, though not so many include 
>parentheses.


One thing to consider is that RDA presents the value of the element alongside 
the name of the element.

So one would have:

Illustrative content: illustrations

Colour content: some color


But RDA also allows longer values that are normally found in 500 notes:

Illustrative content: Map of Australia on endpapers

Colour content: 2 maps in colour



Recombining these in MARC would require thinking about roundtripping the 
values, so one could take:

Illustrative content: illustrations

Colour content: some color


and make


300$b illustrations (some color)

where 300$b combines two RDA element values.



Grammatically linking the element values is where there would be problems 
roundtripping the data values.

So "illustrations in colour" and "chiefly coloured illustrations" would be 
awkward since one has to rip these values apart to put them in separate RDA 
elements.


The RDA example "2 maps in colour" for Colour Content also points to how to 
finetune the description of the content, since I could use the example (RDA has 
it with 4 maps, 2 of which are in colour) in the following way:

Illustrative content: 4 maps

Colour content: 2 maps in colour

which can be roundtripped in MARC as:

300$b 4 maps
500$a 2 maps in colour.


Thomas Brenndorfer
Guelph Public Library

Re: [RDA-L] 7.17 Colour content

[J. McRee Elrod]

Karen Nelson posted:

>300  45 p. : illustrations in colour
>300  45 p. : coloured illustrations
>
>300  45 p. : illustrations, some coloured
>300  45 p. : illustrations, some in colour
>
>300  45 p. : illustrations, chiefly coloured
>300 45 p. : chiefly coloured illustrations

In each case we would select the shortest version, in part to have
fewer words to translate for other language records.


   __   __   J. McRee (Mac) Elrod (m...@slc.bc.ca)
  {__  |   / Special Libraries Cataloguing   HTTP://www.slc.bc.ca/
  ___} |__ \__

Re: [RDA-L] RDA 336-338 fields and books with accompanying media

[J. McRee Elrod]

Sevim posted:

>336  text ǂb txt ǂ2 rdacontent ǂ3 book
>336  text ǂb txt ǂ2 rdacontent ǂ3 CD-ROM
>337  unmediated ǂb n ǂ2 rdamedia ǂ3 book
>337  computer ǂb c ǂ2 rdamedia ǂ3 CD-ROM
>338  volume ǂb nc ǂ2 rdacarrier ǂ3 book
>338  computer disc ǂb cd ǂ2 rdacarrier ǂ3 CD-ROM

While we prefer the 33X in tag order (as opposed to in triplets), and
repeating 33X (as opposed to repeating $a;s), we do think it makes
more sense for patrons to have $3 first, just as 246 $i is first.


   __   __   J. McRee (Mac) Elrod (m...@slc.bc.ca)
  {__  |   / Special Libraries Cataloguing   HTTP://www.slc.bc.ca/
  ___} |__ \__

Re: [RDA-L] 7.17 Colour content

[Karen Nelson]

Right, that sounds like a good plan ... keep to what you know, as far as you 
can! Because I really don't see any other reason to choose differently.

Thanks again,  Joan!

From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access 
[mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Joan Wang
Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2013 11:19 AM
To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA
Subject: Re: [RDA-L] 7.17 Colour content

Sheesh
As far as I known, illustrative content and color content are two separate 
elements in RDA. RDA does not tell us how to combine these two elements in one 
sub-field. I asked the question (long time ago) in this email list. I was told 
that currently we actually follow AACR2 practice to combine them. So the only 
difference you will see is no abbreviation. I was also told to record "chiefly 
illustrations" in 500 notes. For spelling, RDA provides two options: color or 
colour.
That is all I know. I hope that somebody else can give you more information :)
Thanks,
Joan Wang

On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 12:39 PM, Karen Nelson 
mailto:knel...@capilanou.ca>> wrote:
Thanks for the replies, Joan and Darlene - but I am still confused, sorry. The 
way I learned (AACR2R) was:
300  45 p. : ill. (some col.) ... or (chiefly col.) ... or whatever.

That is to say, abbreviations and parentheses.

I am definitely an RDA novice, but I thought I knew that:

-There are to be no abbreviations, and we can use Canadian English 
spelling (so, "illustrations" and "colour" - or is it "coloured"??

-But am still unsure about word order and use of parentheses or not. 
Illustrations in colour, or Coloured illustrations? Some coloured, or Some in 
colour?  And is whatever chosen to go in parentheses still, or to follow a 
comma?
Sheesh.

From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access 
[mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On 
Behalf Of Joan Wang
Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2013 10:32 AM
To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA
Subject: Re: [RDA-L] 7.17 Colour content

Is it "45 pages : color illustrations"?

Thank you.
Joan Wang

On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 12:12 PM, Darlene Taylor 
mailto:darlene.tay...@sait.ca>> wrote:
hi. The examples you are showing are mostly from the old cataloging 
rules,AACR2. They should be:

45 pages : illustrations (colour)
45 pages : illustrations (some colour)
45 pages : illustrations (chiefly colour)

Darlene Taylor, Instructor
Library Information Technology Program
SAIT Polytechnic
1301- 16 Ave. N.W.
Calgary, Alberta
T2M 0L4
403-284-8072

From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access 
[RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf 
Of Karen Nelson [knel...@capilanou.ca]
Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2013 10:36 AM
To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA
Subject: [RDA-L] 7.17 Colour content

Help help.

I have read the RDA ToolKit instructions over and over, and looked at the 
workflows, and checked online...

Can't see that RDA actually says much about "how", but online I am seeing a 
whole lot of versions of how the recording of colour content is to be done. Are 
we agreed on anything?

I have seen:

300  45 p. : illustrations in colour
300  45 p. : coloured illustrations

300  45 p. : illustrations, some coloured
300  45 p. : illustrations, some in colour

300  45 p. : illustrations, chiefly coloured
300 45 p. : chiefly coloured illustrations

And many similar, but with the usual parentheses, though not so many include 
parentheses.

Which are correct? And why, please.



--
Zhonghong (Joan) Wang, Ph.D.
Cataloger -- CMC
Illinois Heartland Library System (Edwardsville Office)
6725 Goshen Road
Edwardsville, IL 62025
618.656.3216x409
618.656.9401Fax



--
Zhonghong (Joan) Wang, Ph.D.
Cataloger -- CMC
Illinois Heartland Library System (Edwardsville Office)
6725 Goshen Road
Edwardsville, IL 62025
618.656.3216x409
618.656.9401Fax

Re: [RDA-L] 7.17 Colour content

[Joan Wang]

Sheesh

As far as I known, illustrative content and color content are two separate
elements in RDA. RDA does not tell us how to combine these two elements in
one sub-field. I asked the question (long time ago) in this email list. I
was told that currently we actually follow AACR2 practice to combine them.
So the only difference you will see is no abbreviation. I was also told to
record "chiefly illustrations" in 500 notes. For spelling, RDA provides two
options: color or colour.

That is all I know. I hope that somebody else can give you more information
:)

Thanks,
Joan Wang


On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 12:39 PM, Karen Nelson  wrote:

>  Thanks for the replies, Joan and Darlene – but I am still confused,
> sorry. The way I learned (AACR2R) was:
>
> 300  45 p. : ill. (some col.) … or (chiefly col.) … or whatever.
>
> ** **
>
> That is to say, abbreviations *and* parentheses.
>
> ** **
>
> I am definitely an RDA novice, but I thought I knew that:
>
> **-**There are to be no abbreviations, and we can use Canadian
> English spelling (so, “illustrations” and “colour” – or is it “coloured”??
> 
>
> **-**But am still unsure about word order and use of parentheses
> or not. Illustrations in colour, or Coloured illustrations? Some coloured,
> or Some in colour?  And is whatever chosen to go in parentheses still, or
> to follow a comma?
>
> Sheesh.
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access
> [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] *On Behalf Of *Joan Wang
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 24, 2013 10:32 AM
> *To:* RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA
> *Subject:* Re: [RDA-L] 7.17 Colour content
>
> ** **
>
> Is it "45 pages : color illustrations"?
>
>
> Thank you. 
>
> Joan Wang
>
> ** **
>
> On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 12:12 PM, Darlene Taylor 
> wrote:
>
> hi. The examples you are showing are mostly from the old cataloging
> rules,AACR2. They should be:
>
> 45 pages : illustrations (colour)
> 45 pages : illustrations (some colour)
> 45 pages : illustrations (chiefly colour)
>
> Darlene Taylor, Instructor
> Library Information Technology Program
> SAIT Polytechnic
> 1301- 16 Ave. N.W.
> Calgary, Alberta
> T2M 0L4
> 403-284-8072
> 
> From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [
> RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Karen Nelson [
> knel...@capilanou.ca]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2013 10:36 AM
> To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA
> Subject: [RDA-L] 7.17 Colour content
>
> Help help.
>
> I have read the RDA ToolKit instructions over and over, and looked at the
> workflows, and checked online…
>
> Can’t see that RDA actually says much about “how”, but online I am seeing
> a whole lot of versions of how the recording of colour content is to be
> done. Are we agreed on anything?
>
> I have seen:
>
> 300  45 p. : illustrations in colour
> 300  45 p. : coloured illustrations
>
> 300  45 p. : illustrations, some coloured
> 300  45 p. : illustrations, some in colour
>
> 300  45 p. : illustrations, chiefly coloured
> 300 45 p. : chiefly coloured illustrations
>
> And many similar, but with the usual parentheses, though not so many
> include parentheses.
>
> Which are correct? And why, please.
>
>
>
>
> -- 
>
> Zhonghong (Joan) Wang, Ph.D.
> Cataloger -- CMC
>
> Illinois Heartland Library System (Edwardsville Office)
> 6725 Goshen Road
> Edwardsville, IL 62025
> 618.656.3216x409
> 618.656.9401Fax
>



-- 
Zhonghong (Joan) Wang, Ph.D.
Cataloger -- CMC
Illinois Heartland Library System (Edwardsville Office)
6725 Goshen Road
Edwardsville, IL 62025
618.656.3216x409
618.656.9401Fax

Re: [RDA-L] 7.17 Colour content

[Kyrios, Alex]

That's what I thought, and what I've been doing. It seemed a logical step from 
AACR2's "col. ill.," but I suppose no one ever said RDA was going to be 
logical...

Alex Kyrios
Metadata and Catalog Librarian
University of Idaho
208-885-2513
akyr...@uidaho.edu


From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access 
[mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Joan Wang
Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2013 10:32 AM
To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA
Subject: Re: [RDA-L] 7.17 Colour content

Is it "45 pages : color illustrations"?

Thank you.
Joan Wang

On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 12:12 PM, Darlene Taylor 
mailto:darlene.tay...@sait.ca>> wrote:
hi. The examples you are showing are mostly from the old cataloging 
rules,AACR2. They should be:

45 pages : illustrations (colour)
45 pages : illustrations (some colour)
45 pages : illustrations (chiefly colour)

Darlene Taylor, Instructor
Library Information Technology Program
SAIT Polytechnic
1301- 16 Ave. N.W.
Calgary, Alberta
T2M 0L4
403-284-8072

From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access 
[RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf 
Of Karen Nelson [knel...@capilanou.ca]
Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2013 10:36 AM
To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA
Subject: [RDA-L] 7.17 Colour content

Help help.

I have read the RDA ToolKit instructions over and over, and looked at the 
workflows, and checked online...

Can't see that RDA actually says much about "how", but online I am seeing a 
whole lot of versions of how the recording of colour content is to be done. Are 
we agreed on anything?

I have seen:

300  45 p. : illustrations in colour
300  45 p. : coloured illustrations

300  45 p. : illustrations, some coloured
300  45 p. : illustrations, some in colour

300  45 p. : illustrations, chiefly coloured
300 45 p. : chiefly coloured illustrations

And many similar, but with the usual parentheses, though not so many include 
parentheses.

Which are correct? And why, please.



--
Zhonghong (Joan) Wang, Ph.D.
Cataloger -- CMC
Illinois Heartland Library System (Edwardsville Office)
6725 Goshen Road
Edwardsville, IL 62025
618.656.3216x409
618.656.9401Fax

Re: [RDA-L] 7.17 Colour content

[Karen Nelson]

Thanks for the replies, Joan and Darlene - but I am still confused, sorry. The 
way I learned (AACR2R) was:
300  45 p. : ill. (some col.) ... or (chiefly col.) ... or whatever.

That is to say, abbreviations and parentheses.

I am definitely an RDA novice, but I thought I knew that:

-There are to be no abbreviations, and we can use Canadian English 
spelling (so, "illustrations" and "colour" - or is it "coloured"??

-But am still unsure about word order and use of parentheses or not. 
Illustrations in colour, or Coloured illustrations? Some coloured, or Some in 
colour?  And is whatever chosen to go in parentheses still, or to follow a 
comma?
Sheesh.

From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access 
[mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Joan Wang
Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2013 10:32 AM
To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA
Subject: Re: [RDA-L] 7.17 Colour content

Is it "45 pages : color illustrations"?

Thank you.
Joan Wang

On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 12:12 PM, Darlene Taylor 
mailto:darlene.tay...@sait.ca>> wrote:
hi. The examples you are showing are mostly from the old cataloging 
rules,AACR2. They should be:

45 pages : illustrations (colour)
45 pages : illustrations (some colour)
45 pages : illustrations (chiefly colour)

Darlene Taylor, Instructor
Library Information Technology Program
SAIT Polytechnic
1301- 16 Ave. N.W.
Calgary, Alberta
T2M 0L4
403-284-8072

From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access 
[RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf 
Of Karen Nelson [knel...@capilanou.ca]
Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2013 10:36 AM
To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA
Subject: [RDA-L] 7.17 Colour content

Help help.

I have read the RDA ToolKit instructions over and over, and looked at the 
workflows, and checked online...

Can't see that RDA actually says much about "how", but online I am seeing a 
whole lot of versions of how the recording of colour content is to be done. Are 
we agreed on anything?

I have seen:

300  45 p. : illustrations in colour
300  45 p. : coloured illustrations

300  45 p. : illustrations, some coloured
300  45 p. : illustrations, some in colour

300  45 p. : illustrations, chiefly coloured
300 45 p. : chiefly coloured illustrations

And many similar, but with the usual parentheses, though not so many include 
parentheses.

Which are correct? And why, please.



--
Zhonghong (Joan) Wang, Ph.D.
Cataloger -- CMC
Illinois Heartland Library System (Edwardsville Office)
6725 Goshen Road
Edwardsville, IL 62025
618.656.3216x409
618.656.9401Fax

Re: [RDA-L] 7.17 Colour content

[Joan Wang]

Is it "45 pages : color illustrations"?


Thank you.
Joan Wang


On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 12:12 PM, Darlene Taylor wrote:

> hi. The examples you are showing are mostly from the old cataloging
> rules,AACR2. They should be:
>
> 45 pages : illustrations (colour)
> 45 pages : illustrations (some colour)
> 45 pages : illustrations (chiefly colour)
>
> Darlene Taylor, Instructor
> Library Information Technology Program
> SAIT Polytechnic
> 1301- 16 Ave. N.W.
> Calgary, Alberta
> T2M 0L4
> 403-284-8072
> 
> From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [
> RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Karen Nelson [
> knel...@capilanou.ca]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2013 10:36 AM
> To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA
> Subject: [RDA-L] 7.17 Colour content
>
> Help help.
>
> I have read the RDA ToolKit instructions over and over, and looked at the
> workflows, and checked online…
>
> Can’t see that RDA actually says much about “how”, but online I am seeing
> a whole lot of versions of how the recording of colour content is to be
> done. Are we agreed on anything?
>
> I have seen:
>
> 300  45 p. : illustrations in colour
> 300  45 p. : coloured illustrations
>
> 300  45 p. : illustrations, some coloured
> 300  45 p. : illustrations, some in colour
>
> 300  45 p. : illustrations, chiefly coloured
> 300 45 p. : chiefly coloured illustrations
>
> And many similar, but with the usual parentheses, though not so many
> include parentheses.
>
> Which are correct? And why, please.
>



-- 
Zhonghong (Joan) Wang, Ph.D.
Cataloger -- CMC
Illinois Heartland Library System (Edwardsville Office)
6725 Goshen Road
Edwardsville, IL 62025
618.656.3216x409
618.656.9401Fax

Re: [RDA-L] 7.17 Colour content

[Darlene Taylor]

hi. The examples you are showing are mostly from the old cataloging 
rules,AACR2. They should be:

45 pages : illustrations (colour)
45 pages : illustrations (some colour)
45 pages : illustrations (chiefly colour)

Darlene Taylor, Instructor
Library Information Technology Program
SAIT Polytechnic
1301- 16 Ave. N.W.
Calgary, Alberta
T2M 0L4
403-284-8072

From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access 
[RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Karen Nelson [knel...@capilanou.ca]
Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2013 10:36 AM
To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA
Subject: [RDA-L] 7.17 Colour content

Help help.

I have read the RDA ToolKit instructions over and over, and looked at the 
workflows, and checked online…

Can’t see that RDA actually says much about “how”, but online I am seeing a 
whole lot of versions of how the recording of colour content is to be done. Are 
we agreed on anything?

I have seen:

300  45 p. : illustrations in colour
300  45 p. : coloured illustrations

300  45 p. : illustrations, some coloured
300  45 p. : illustrations, some in colour

300  45 p. : illustrations, chiefly coloured
300 45 p. : chiefly coloured illustrations

And many similar, but with the usual parentheses, though not so many include 
parentheses.

Which are correct? And why, please.

[RDA-L] 7.17 Colour content

[Karen Nelson]

Help help.

I have read the RDA ToolKit instructions over and over, and looked at the 
workflows, and checked online...

Can't see that RDA actually says much about "how", but online I am seeing a 
whole lot of versions of how the recording of colour content is to be done. Are 
we agreed on anything?

I have seen:

300  45 p. : illustrations in colour
300  45 p. : coloured illustrations

300  45 p. : illustrations, some coloured
300  45 p. : illustrations, some in colour

300  45 p. : illustrations, chiefly coloured
300 45 p. : chiefly coloured illustrations

And many similar, but with the usual parentheses, though not so many include 
parentheses.

Which are correct? And why, please.

Re: [RDA-L] RDA 336-338 fields and books with accompanying media

[Gary L Strawn]

In case anyone is interested: Here, we're sorting the 336-338 fields by the 
contents of subfield $3 if present (nothing before something, "nothing" assumed 
to represent "the main thing", whatever it is) and then by tag:


336 text ǂb txt ǂ2 rdacontent ǂ3 book

337  unmediated ǂb n ǂ2 rdamedia ǂ3 book

338  volume ǂb nc ǂ2 rdacarrier ǂ3 book

336  two-dimensional moving image ǂb tdi ǂ2 rdacontent ǂ3 DVD-ROM

337  computer ǂb c ǂ2 rdamedia ǂ3 DVD-ROM

337  video ǂb v ǂ2 rdamedia ǂ3 DVD-ROM

338  computer disc ǂb cd ǂ2 rdacarrier ǂ3 DVD-ROM

Gary L. Strawn, Authorities Librarian, etc.   Twitter: GaryLStrawn
Northwestern University Library, 1970 Campus Drive, Evanston IL 60208-2300
e-mail: mrsm...@northwestern.edu   voice: 847/491-2788   fax: 847/491-8306
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit.   BatchCat version: 2007.25.428

From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access 
[mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of MCCUTCHEON, SEVIM
Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2013 10:13 AM
To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA
Subject: Re: [RDA-L] RDA 336-338 fields and books with accompanying media

My colleague Roman Panchyshyn made this point: “I agree with keeping them 
separate. If we are ever going to use $3 to machine generate icons or collocate 
strings together, the text must be the same for all CMCs.”
That is, in order to make the 336-338 fields as machine-manipulatable as 
possible, it’s best to input the CMCs in as granular a way as possible.  Thus 
when I have a book with an accompanying CD-ROM that contains text, I’ve decided 
to code it the following way – until somebody tells me not to/ until a “best 
practice” develops.


336  text ǂb txt ǂ2 rdacontent ǂ3 book

336  text ǂb txt ǂ2 rdacontent ǂ3 CD-ROM

337  unmediated ǂb n ǂ2 rdamedia ǂ3 book

337  computer ǂb c ǂ2 rdamedia ǂ3 CD-ROM

338  volume ǂb nc ǂ2 rdacarrier ǂ3 book

338  computer disc ǂb cd ǂ2 rdacarrier ǂ3 CD-ROM

And a book with accompanying DVD-ROM that consists primarily of video clips 
would be:

336 text ǂb txt ǂ2 rdacontent ǂ3 book

336  two-dimensional moving image ǂb tdi ǂ2 rdacontent ǂ3 DVD-ROM

337  unmediated ǂb n ǂ2 rdamedia ǂ3 book

337  computer ǂb c ǂ2 rdamedia ǂ3 DVD-ROM

337  video ǂb v ǂ2 rdamedia ǂ3 DVD-ROM

338  volume ǂb nc ǂ2 rdacarrier ǂ3 book

338  computer disc ǂb cd ǂ2 rdacarrier ǂ3 DVD-ROM

Re: [RDA-L] RDA 336-338 fields and books with accompanying media

[MCCUTCHEON, SEVIM]

My colleague Roman Panchyshyn made this point: “I agree with keeping them 
separate. If we are ever going to use $3 to machine generate icons or collocate 
strings together, the text must be the same for all CMCs.”
That is, in order to make the 336-338 fields as machine-manipulatable as 
possible, it’s best to input the CMCs in as granular a way as possible.  Thus 
when I have a book with an accompanying CD-ROM that contains text, I’ve decided 
to code it the following way – until somebody tells me not to/ until a “best 
practice” develops.


336  text ǂb txt ǂ2 rdacontent ǂ3 book

336  text ǂb txt ǂ2 rdacontent ǂ3 CD-ROM

337  unmediated ǂb n ǂ2 rdamedia ǂ3 book

337  computer ǂb c ǂ2 rdamedia ǂ3 CD-ROM

338  volume ǂb nc ǂ2 rdacarrier ǂ3 book

338  computer disc ǂb cd ǂ2 rdacarrier ǂ3 CD-ROM

And a book with accompanying DVD-ROM that consists primarily of video clips 
would be:

336 text ǂb txt ǂ2 rdacontent ǂ3 book

336  two-dimensional moving image ǂb tdi ǂ2 rdacontent ǂ3 DVD-ROM

337  unmediated ǂb n ǂ2 rdamedia ǂ3 book

337  computer ǂb c ǂ2 rdamedia ǂ3 DVD-ROM

337  video ǂb v ǂ2 rdamedia ǂ3 DVD-ROM

338  volume ǂb nc ǂ2 rdacarrier ǂ3 book

338  computer disc ǂb cd ǂ2 rdacarrier ǂ3 DVD-ROM


Sevim McCutcheon
Catalog Librarian, Assoc. Prof.
Kent State University Libraries
330-672-1703
lmccu...@kent.edu

From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access 
[mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Benjamin A Abrahamse
Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 1:21 PM
To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA
Subject: Re: [RDA-L] RDA 336-338 fields and books with accompanying media

It's not really clear to me what (if anything) the user will see of this 3xx 
data, and I don't know if there is (yet) a "best way" to encode it. But our 
practice so far has been only to mark accompanying material with $3:

1. Book with CD-ROM:

336  text ǂb txt ǂ2 rdacontent
337  unmediated ǂb n ǂ2 rdamedia
337  computer ǂb c ǂ2 rdamedia ǂ3 accompanying material
338  volume ǂb nc ǂ2 rdacarrier
338  computer disc ǂb cd ǂ2 rdacarrier ǂ3 accompanying material

2. Book with accompanying DVD:

336  ǂa text ǂb txt ǂ2 rdacontent
336  ǂa two-dimensional moving image ǂb tdm ǂ2 rdacontent ǂ3 accompanying 
material
337  ǂa unmediated ǂb n ǂ2 rdamedia
337  ǂa video ǂb v ǂ2 rdamedia ǂ3 accompanying material
338  ǂa volume ǂb nc ǂ2 rdacarrier
338  ǂa videodisc ǂb vd ǂ2 rdacarrier ǂ3 accompanying material

--Ben

Benjamin Abrahamse
Cataloging Coordinator
Acquisitions, Metadata and Enterprise Systems
MIT Libraries
617-253-7137

From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access 
[mailto:RDA-L@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca] On Behalf Of MCCUTCHEON, SEVIM
Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 1:00 PM
To: RDA-L@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca
Subject: [RDA-L] RDA 336-338 fields and books with accompanying media

We sometimes get books with accompanying media (like CD-ROMs, DVD-ROMs, CDs and 
DVDs). We could use some advice.

What’s the best way to input the 336-338 fields in these scenarios?


1.   Book with CD-ROM.  CD-ROM contains PDF files (textual material)

336  text ǂb txt ǂ2 rdacontent ǂ3 book

336  text ǂb txt ǂ2 rdacontent

337  unmediated ǂb n ǂ2 rdamedia ǂ3 book

337  computer ǂb c ǂ2 rdamedia ǂ3 CD-ROM

338  volume ǂb nc ǂ2 rdacarrier ǂ3 book

338  computer disc ǂb cd ǂ2 rdacarrier ǂ3 CD-ROM



… Or since both the book and contents of the CD-ROM consist of text, would you 
perhaps input only one 336 field?  Such as…

336  text ǂb txt ǂ2 rdacontent ǂ3 book & CD-ROM

Or

336  text ǂb txt ǂ2 rdacontent ǂ3 book and CD-ROM





2.   Book with DVD-ROM.  DVD-ROM consists primarily of video clips.  It 
also has a few forms.

Would this be correct? And would you add 336-338 fields to show that the 
DVD-ROM has some textual material as well, or would you focus on just the 
primary content, the video clips?



text ǂb txt ǂ2 rdacontent

336  two-dimensional moving image ǂb tdi ǂ2 rdacontent ǂ3 DVD-ROM

337  unmediated ǂb n ǂ2 rdamedia

337  computer ǂb c ǂ2 rdamedia ǂ3 DVD-ROM

337  video ǂb v ǂ2 rdamedia ǂ3 DVD-ROM

338  volume ǂb nc ǂ2 rdacarrier

338  computer disc ǂb cd ǂ2 rdacarrier ǂ3 DVD-ROM

Thank you in advance,

Sevim McCutcheon
Catalog Librarian, Assoc. Prof.
Kent State University Libraries
330-672-1703
lmccu...@kent.edu