Re: [RDA-L] RDA name authorities |c (Fictitious character)
I think the heading for Ender Wiggin should have $c before (Fictitious character) and it was just left out accidentally. I did a search on the name file for Fictitious character and found several others with the same problem. Establishing fictitious characters in the name file rather than the subject file is a new practice that was just announced a couple of months ago, so that may account for some of the inconsistency. Michelle --- Michelle Cronquist North Caroliniana Cataloger Special Collections Technical Services CB#3926, Wilson Library University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill 919-962-6901 919-962-3594 (fax) -Original Message- From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of FOGLER, PATRICIA A GS-11 USAF AETC AUL/LTSC Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 10:07 AM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: [RDA-L] RDA name authorities |c (Fictitious character) I'm working through today's name authority changes wondering why I'm finding: ‡a Wiggin, Ender (Fictitious character) but ‡a Wiggin, Peter ‡c (Fictitious character) Is this simply two different agencies interpreting the rules differently? We don't catalog a lot of fiction here so I've not much experience with fictitious characters. I do edit our base library records occasionally they have a number of Card's titles. I'd send this to LChelp4rda but I am guessing they are not back at work as yet. //SIGNED// Patricia Fogler Chief, Cataloging Section (AUL/LTSC) Muir S. Fairchild Research Information Center DSN 493-2135 Comm (334) 953-2135
Re: [RDA-L] RDA local printouts
Patricia, I think what you're describing looks great. We also catalog a lot of local printouts and reproductions and are struggling with how to deal with these in RDA. #858396574 is an example of one I did recently. The one thing that I would do differently in your record is to use 264 _0 instead of 264 _3; I don’t think you can just have printing information without production or publication information. When I wrote to LChelp4rda earlier this year to ask how to deal with reproductions, I was told that the PCC was going to form a task force to look into this issue, though I haven't heard anything about this since. The current way in RDA is just impractical, since it means that each library has to create a new record for their own local reproduction, rather than editing an existing record. Also, it doesn't make sense for the date field to reflect the reproduction date rather than the date of the original; this is particularly a problem for microfilmed newspapers, of which we have many in my collection. Michelle --- Michelle Cronquist North Caroliniana Cataloger Special Collections Technical Services CB#3926, Wilson Library University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill 919-962-6901 919-962-3594 (fax) -Original Message- From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of FOGLER, PATRICIA A GS-11 USAF AETC AUL/LTSC Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 1:46 PM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: [RDA-L] RDA local printouts My question is in regard to local print reproductions (reports run off a library printer) of a government document (public domain) PDF received (for example) in email by a bibliographer. We get a fair number of these and I need to figure this out. In AACR2, we simply cataloged the original, limited the 533 to Printout so that if another library had a local reproduction of the same resource, they could customize that field. In RDA, given an 008 Ctry 264 coded for a specific library, this record would not be one I would think another library would feel comfortable editing for their own use. I would especially appreciate critique of the below elements: 008 Ctry: alu (our library location) Form: r Dtst: r Date: 2013,2003 (printout original publication dates) 264_3 [Maxwell Air Force Base, Alabama] : ǂb [Fairchild Research Information Center], ǂc [2013]. 77608 |iReproduction of (manifestation) |a Bullis, R. Craig |t Assessing leaders to establish and maintain positive command climate |d [Carlisle Barracks, Pennsylvania] : Army War College, 2013 |h PDF document via email |n Printed locally (public domain) Does this look like what is being recommended? I'm still deciding about the 776 format but I would appreciate input about just about any of the above elements. //SIGNED// Patricia Fogler Chief, Cataloging Section (AUL/LTSC) Muir S. Fairchild Research Information Center DSN 493-2135 Comm (334) 953-2135
Re: [RDA-L] Unnumbered page in a 504 note
You'd omit the brackets, according to LC-PSS 1.7.1, which says Do not use square brackets in notes except when they are used in quoted data, and gives this example: 500http://desktop.loc.gov/saved/Mabibl_500 ## $aTypes of prayer wheels found in south central Tibet, by Mei Lin: pages 310-375. Not ... pages [310]-[375]. --- Michelle Cronquist North Caroliniana Cataloger Special Collections Technical Services CB#3926, Wilson Library University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill 919-962-6901 919-962-3594 (fax) From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Dana Van Meter Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 2:57 PM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: [RDA-L] Unnumbered page in a 504 note Hello. I've rooted around RDA several times trying to find an answer to this question and I can't find one anywhere. Is there any direction anywhere in RDA or in the policy statements that tell you what to do when you are noting that bibliographical references are present and are noting the page numbers the references fall on, and where either the starting or ending (though usually the starting) page is not numbered in the book itself. In AACR2 we would put the correct page number inside square brackets. In most of the cases of this situation I've seen in the RDA copy that's out there, I see people just citing the page number without the square brackets. I've only seen someone use square brackets once or twice. The AACR2 in me hates to put the page number without the square bracket when the page is not numbered in the book itself, which is generally the case with most of the books I catalog, as the heading Bibliography (or Bibliographical References, or whatever the case may be) usually appears a bit lower down on the page, and thus the page number is usually skipped on the starting page for the bibliographical references. I've looked at rule 7.16.1.3 and the LC-PCC PS for 7.16.1.3 and neither mentions what to do in a bibliographical references note when the starting (or ending) page is not numbered in the book itself. Is this mentioned anywhere in RDA, or in an LC-PCC PS? If it's not, can someone from LC monitoring this list please add this to the LC-PCC PS for 7.16.1.3 so I don't have to hem and haw every time I encounter this situation? Thanks very much for your help, Dana Van Meter Cataloging Librarian Historical Studies-Social Science Library Institute for Advanced Study Princeton, NJ 08540 vanme...@ias.edumailto:vanme...@ias.edu
