Re: [RDA-L] Question about multiple authors on an OCLC record

[Wesson, Jinny]

Thank you for putting this in language I could understand.

 

Jinny Wesson

 

Library Resource Center

Library Coordinator

Technical Services/Cataloging

3000 NE 4th St.

Renton, WA 98056

(425) 235-2331

jwes...@rtc.edu <mailto:jwes...@rtc.edu> 

 

 

 

From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access 
[mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Benjamin A Abrahamse
Sent: Monday, October 28, 2013 12:12 PM
To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA
Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Question about multiple authors on an OCLC record

 

The 1st ed. listed Bales as primary author so presumably whoever created the 
record for the 2nd ed. preserved the main entry.

 

If you look at RDA 6.27.1.3 (Authorized access points ... Collaborative works) 
you'll see that the person with "principal responsibility" is assigned to the 
access point. (To translate from RDA-ese: gets Main Entry/1xx), but if 
principal responsibility is uncertain then choose the first-named author.

 

So presumably the cataloger of #87852529 felt that even though the 2nd edition 
lists Hirsch as the first-named author, the fact that Bales is primarily 
responsible for the original edition is more indicative of "principal 
responsibility".

 

--Ben

 

Benjamin Abrahamse

Cataloging Coordinator

Acquisitions and Discovery Enhancement

MIT Libraries

617-253-7137

 

From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access 
[mailto:RDA-L@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca] On Behalf Of Wesson, Jinny
Sent: Monday, October 28, 2013 2:59 PM
To: RDA-L@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca
Subject: [RDA-L] Question about multiple authors on an OCLC record

 

OCLC #87852529 Understanding Employment Law

There are 3 authors, all listed as shown on title page (including the Univ 
info)  in the 245 tag $c Jeffrey M. Hirsch, Paul M. Secunda and Richard A. 
Bales. This is the order shown on title page.

The record shows Bales, Richard A. as the author in the 100 tag. I know in 
AACR2, I always used the first author listed on title page. RDA toolkit is 
confusing to me and I could not find information on this.

 

Jinny Wesson

 

Library Resource Center

Library Coordinator

Technical Services/Cataloging

3000 NE 4th St.

Renton, WA 98056

(425) 235-2331

jwes...@rtc.edu

 

 

 



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[RDA-L] Question about multiple authors on an OCLC record

[Wesson, Jinny]

OCLC #87852529 Understanding Employment Law

There are 3 authors, all listed as shown on title page (including the
Univ info)  in the 245 tag $c Jeffrey M. Hirsch, Paul M. Secunda and
Richard A. Bales. This is the order shown on title page.

The record shows Bales, Richard A. as the author in the 100 tag. I know
in AACR2, I always used the first author listed on title page. RDA
toolkit is confusing to me and I could not find information on this.

 

Jinny Wesson

 

Library Resource Center

Library Coordinator

Technical Services/Cataloging

3000 NE 4th St.

Renton, WA 98056

(425) 235-2331

jwes...@rtc.edu

 

 

 

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Re: [RDA-L] Good news re RDA guidance

[Wesson, Jinny]

I emailed Deborah Fritz to see if she was going to do an RDA version. She said 
she was not at this time. I am hoping she will change her mind. I usded her 
AACR2 ver daily.



-Original Message-
From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access on 
behalf of J. McRee Elrod
Sent: Mon 8/5/2013 10:59 AM
To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA
Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Good news re RDA guidance
 
Lynn eBare requested:

>Would you please post the bibliographic citations and how to order the 
>two RDA guidance aids by Weihs and Fritz? 

The Weihs aid is still being written.  I'm copying to the Jean and
Sheila, the authors.

The Fritz binder was AACR2, not RDA.  I haven't heard if Deborah is
planning an RDA version.


   __   __   J. McRee (Mac) Elrod (m...@slc.bc.ca)
  {__  |   / Special Libraries Cataloguing   HTTP://www.slc.bc.ca/
  ___} |__ \__

Re: [RDA-L] Retrospective conversion of data

[Wesson, Jinny]

I am a small library. I am the cataloging department. We will be having a 
hybrid catalog at least until I retire. I am going to try and use RDA records 
when importing from OCLC. I also will use RDA for original cataloging.

 

Jinny Wesson

Library Resource Center

Library Coordinator

Technical Services/Cataloging

3000 NE 4th St.

Renton, WA 98056

(425) 235-2331

jwes...@rtc.edu  

 

 

 

From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access 
[mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Fox, Chris
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 9:00 AM
To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA
Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Retrospective conversion of data

 

Gary,

I’m just curious about many staff you have, both copy catalogers and original 
catalogers, to accomplish this.  I don’t think there is enough of me to attempt 
something like this to any degree.  

 

What are others doing, especially you smaller libraries?  Are you planning some 
degree of retrospective conversion, or are  you settling for living with a 
hybrid catalog?

 

Thanks,

Chris

 

Chris Fox

Catalog Librarian

McKay Library

Brigham Young Univ.-Idaho

c...@byui.edu 

 

From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access 
[mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Gary L Strawn
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 9:25 AM
To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA
Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Retrospective conversion of data

 

We did the headings business (bibliographic and authority) last month.

 

Any record that comes to the attention of our cataloger's toolkit can have the 
following happen to it (depending on options selected):

 

· Add "$e author" to 100 (preferred value for this option: don't)

· Expand abbreviations (those in square brackets) in 245 (preferred 
value: do)

· Expand abbreviations in 255 (preferred value: do)

· Expand abbreviations in 260 (preferred value: do)

· Expand abbreviations in 300 (preferred value: do)

· Supply 336-338 fields (preferred value for original catalogers: do; 
for copy catalogers: don't at this time)

· Expand abbreviations in 5XX fields (preferred value: do)

· Re-cast the 502 field, using new subfields (preferred value: do)

 

(The reason that we have asked copy catalogers not to add the 33X fields at 
this time is that this code is still considered experimental, and the results 
need to be examined carefully for correctness, and problems reported.)

 

All this of course is just making the records more RDA-like, but there's no 
pretense that the result is an RDA record; Leader/18 is not changed.

 

As a project, we have already dealt with square brackets in 245 $a beginning 
"i.e.".  ("[sic]" is another thing that is begging to be dealt with.)  In an 
ongoing project, we're dealing with bi-lingual and "Polyglot" subfield $l.  As 
another project, we're looking at records for librettos, to flip the headings 
around.  (Both the $l and libretto project are done one record at a time, but 
we have automated assistance—the operator clicks to indicate decisions, and the 
program does the mechanics. Many of the librettos are multi-lingual, which only 
adds to the fun.)  No doubt, the need for yet other projects will become clear 
as time goes on; and no doubt, the things that we do automatically will 
continue to grow.  We rather expect to make an RDA-ization sweep through the 
bibliographic database (adding 33X fields, removing 245 $h, expanding 
abbreviations and no doubt other stuff) in the next year or two.

 

Gary L. Strawn, Authorities Librarian, etc.

Northwestern University Library, 1970 Campus Drive, Evanston IL 60208-2300

e-mail: mrsm...@northwestern.edu   voice: 847/491-2788   fax: 847/491-8306

Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit. BatchCat version: 2007.22.416

 

From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access 
[mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Tony Whitehurst
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 8:56 AM
To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA
Subject: [RDA-L] Retrospective conversion of data

 

Are any libraries converting their existing data to RDA format and how are they 
doing this?

Thanks,

Tony



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Re: [RDA-L] Can "Lecturer" be used as a valid relator term and do you have a good example of a DVD + Book RDA record?

[Wesson, Jinny]

How about written and narrated by?

 

Jinny Wesson

Library Resource Center

Library Coordinator

Technical Services/Cataloging

3000 NE 4th St.

Renton, WA 98056

(425) 235-2331

jwes...@rtc.edu  

 

 

 

From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access 
[mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Browning, Sommer
Sent: Friday, April 05, 2013 2:21 PM
To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA
Subject: [RDA-L] Can "Lecturer" be used as a valid relator term and do you have 
a good example of a DVD + Book RDA record?

 

Hi everyone,

 

I’ve searched the list and couldn’t find if these questions had been asked 
before so here goes.

 

1.   We are cataloging a Great Courses DVD and course guide. We have the 
lecturer and course guide author in the 100 field. What should his relator term 
be? Is $e creator sufficient? Though he isn’t the creator of the DVD…? He is a 
kind of performer and author…? Using $e lecturer seems silly.

 

2.   Related note: Can the relationship designator just be left off 
entirely? 

 

3.   Does anyone have a good example of a mixed media RDA record? One 
combining both DVD and course guide, for instance.

 

Thank you!

 

Sommer   



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Re: [RDA-L] accompanying material

[Wesson, Jinny]

Please could someone let us know what we are supposed to do with the 
accompanying material?  I am glad I am not the only one with this problem.

 

Jinny Wesson

Library Resource Center

Library Coordinator

Technical Services/Cataloging

3000 NE 4th St.

Renton, WA 98056

(425) 235-2331

jwes...@rtc.edu  

 

 

 

From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access 
[mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Julie Moore
Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 12:53 PM
To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA
Subject: [RDA-L] accompanying material

 

For many of the "special formats" materials that I catalog, there is often 
"accompanying material" -- a CD-ROM, a DVD, a guide, a cassette, etc.

The last I looked, there was no new way of dealing with accompanying material, 
and RDA had not spoken to it. So are we supposed to just keep adding these 
accompanying materials pieces as a 300 $e? 

Thanks, 
Julie Moore

-- 
Julie Renee Moore
Catalog Librarian
California State University, Fresno
julie.renee.mo...@gmail.com
559-278-5813

Proudly wearing the sensible shoes since 1985!



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