Re: [RDA-L] Question on responsibility and preferred entry
Hi, Michael I did read Page xx, “About the authors”. Apparently the term "author" is used differently in the book. It actually means "editor" rather than "author" as we understand in RDA. I would suggest you to stick to the title page. You also can make a judgement based on the nature of the handbook. *About the Authors* * * *Frank Booty is former editor of Facilities Management and a contributor to, and editor of, other market-leading titles, books and web sites in the fields of business, IT and networking. * Hopefully it helps. Thanks, Joan Wang Illinois Heartland Library System On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 12:31 PM, Michael Borries < michael.borr...@mail.cuny.edu> wrote: > I have in hand the fourth edition of Facilities management handbook. I > have the edition from Routledge. (OCoLC) 244653136 is an AACR2 record for > the Butterworth-Heinemann edition. (You can also search by ISBN: > 9780750689779.) The cover says “edited by Frank Booty”; the title page > leaves out “edited by,” at least in my copy (the record for the > Butterworth-Heinemann edition suggests that “edited by” was on the title > page, although other records suggest that “edited by” did not appear on the > title page). > > ** ** > > Page xx, “About the authors,” lists 8 authors of the handbook, the first, > of course, being Frank Booty, who seems, then, to be the primary author and > the editor responsible for the final form of the volume. So, should his > name be the preferred entry? Should I simply ignore “edited by” on the > cover? And if I did want to give it, I assume I would not use square > brackets, since it comes from the resource, although not from the source I > am using for the information. > > ** ** > > Thanks in advance for any help. > > ** ** > > Michael S. Borries > > Cataloger, City University of New York > > 151 East 25th Street, 5th Floor > > New York, NY 10010 > > Phone: (646) 312-1687 > > Email: michael.borr...@mail.cuny.edu > > ** ** > -- Zhonghong (Joan) Wang, Ph.D. Cataloger -- CMC Illinois Heartland Library System (Edwardsville Office) 6725 Goshen Road Edwardsville, IL 62025 618.656.3216x409 618.656.9401Fax
Re: [RDA-L] Question on responsibility and preferred entry
Why do you think page xx means "editors" and not "authors"? I see nothing there to suggest this. Michael S. Borries Cataloger, City University of New York 151 East 25th Street, 5th Floor New York, NY 10010 Phone: (646) 312-1687 Email: michael.borr...@mail.cuny.edu From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Joan Wang Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2013 2:00 PM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Question on responsibility and preferred entry Hi, Michael I did read Page xx, "About the authors". Apparently the term "author" is used differently in the book. It actually means "editor" rather than "author" as we understand in RDA. I would suggest you to stick to the title page. You also can make a judgement based on the nature of the handbook. About the Authors Frank Booty is former editor of Facilities Management and a contributor to, and editor of, other market-leading titles, books and web sites in the fields of business, IT and networking. Hopefully it helps. Thanks, Joan Wang Illinois Heartland Library System On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 12:31 PM, Michael Borries mailto:michael.borr...@mail.cuny.edu>> wrote: I have in hand the fourth edition of Facilities management handbook. I have the edition from Routledge. (OCoLC) 244653136 is an AACR2 record for the Butterworth-Heinemann edition. (You can also search by ISBN: 9780750689779.) The cover says "edited by Frank Booty"; the title page leaves out "edited by," at least in my copy (the record for the Butterworth-Heinemann edition suggests that "edited by" was on the title page, although other records suggest that "edited by" did not appear on the title page). Page xx, "About the authors," lists 8 authors of the handbook, the first, of course, being Frank Booty, who seems, then, to be the primary author and the editor responsible for the final form of the volume. So, should his name be the preferred entry? Should I simply ignore "edited by" on the cover? And if I did want to give it, I assume I would not use square brackets, since it comes from the resource, although not from the source I am using for the information. Thanks in advance for any help. Michael S. Borries Cataloger, City University of New York 151 East 25th Street, 5th Floor New York, NY 10010 Phone: (646) 312-1687 Email: michael.borr...@mail.cuny.edu<mailto:michael.borr...@mail.cuny.edu> -- Zhonghong (Joan) Wang, Ph.D. Cataloger -- CMC Illinois Heartland Library System (Edwardsville Office) 6725 Goshen Road Edwardsville, IL 62025 618.656.3216x409 618.656.9401Fax
Re: [RDA-L] Question on responsibility and preferred entry
>From the information about Frank Booty*. *He is used to be an editor :) Yes. I made an assumption from his* *experience. You also can check if the eight authors are responsible for particular parts of the book. If they do write parts of the book, they would be authors. On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 1:15 PM, Michael Borries < michael.borr...@mail.cuny.edu> wrote: > Why do you think page xx means “editors” and not “authors”? I see > nothing there to suggest this. > > ** ** > > Michael S. Borries > > Cataloger, City University of New York > > 151 East 25th Street, 5th Floor > > New York, NY 10010 > > Phone: (646) 312-1687 > > Email: michael.borr...@mail.cuny.edu > > ** ** > > *From:* Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access > [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] *On Behalf Of *Joan Wang > *Sent:* Thursday, September 05, 2013 2:00 PM > *To:* RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA > *Subject:* Re: [RDA-L] Question on responsibility and preferred entry > > ** ** > > Hi, Michael > > I did read Page xx, “About the authors”. Apparently the term "author" is > used differently in the book. It actually means "editor" rather than > "author" as we understand in RDA. I would suggest you to stick to the title > page. You also can make a judgement based on the nature of the handbook. > > > *About the Authors* > > *Frank Booty is former editor of Facilities Management and a contributor > to, and editor of, other market-leading titles, books and web sites in the > fields of business, IT and networking. * > > ** ** > > Hopefully it helps. > > Thanks, > > Joan Wang > > Illinois Heartland Library System > > ** ** > > On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 12:31 PM, Michael Borries < > michael.borr...@mail.cuny.edu> wrote: > > I have in hand the fourth edition of Facilities management handbook. I > have the edition from Routledge. (OCoLC) 244653136 is an AACR2 record for > the Butterworth-Heinemann edition. (You can also search by ISBN: > 9780750689779.) The cover says “edited by Frank Booty”; the title page > leaves out “edited by,” at least in my copy (the record for the > Butterworth-Heinemann edition suggests that “edited by” was on the title > page, although other records suggest that “edited by” did not appear on the > title page). > > > > Page xx, “About the authors,” lists 8 authors of the handbook, the first, > of course, being Frank Booty, who seems, then, to be the primary author and > the editor responsible for the final form of the volume. So, should his > name be the preferred entry? Should I simply ignore “edited by” on the > cover? And if I did want to give it, I assume I would not use square > brackets, since it comes from the resource, although not from the source I > am using for the information. > > > > Thanks in advance for any help. > > > > Michael S. Borries > > Cataloger, City University of New York > > 151 East 25th Street, 5th Floor > > New York, NY 10010 > > Phone: (646) 312-1687 > > Email: michael.borr...@mail.cuny.edu > > > > > > > -- > > Zhonghong (Joan) Wang, Ph.D. > Cataloger -- CMC > > Illinois Heartland Library System (Edwardsville Office) > 6725 Goshen Road > Edwardsville, IL 62025 > 618.656.3216x409 > 618.656.9401Fax > -- Zhonghong (Joan) Wang, Ph.D. Cataloger -- CMC Illinois Heartland Library System (Edwardsville Office) 6725 Goshen Road Edwardsville, IL 62025 618.656.3216x409 618.656.9401Fax
Re: [RDA-L] Question on responsibility and preferred entry
Also, some books could be a "combination" of relevant content rather than an original creation and writing. For your reference :) On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 1:42 PM, Joan Wang wrote: > From the information about Frank Booty*. *He is used to be an editor :) > Yes. I made an assumption from his* *experience. You also can check if > the eight authors are responsible for particular parts of the book. If they > do write parts of the book, they would be authors. > > > On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 1:15 PM, Michael Borries < > michael.borr...@mail.cuny.edu> wrote: > >> Why do you think page xx means “editors” and not “authors”? I see >> nothing there to suggest this. >> >> ** ** >> >> Michael S. Borries >> >> Cataloger, City University of New York >> >> 151 East 25th Street, 5th Floor >> >> New York, NY 10010 >> >> Phone: (646) 312-1687 >> >> Email: michael.borr...@mail.cuny.edu >> >> ** ** >> >> *From:* Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and >> Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] *On Behalf Of *Joan Wang >> *Sent:* Thursday, September 05, 2013 2:00 PM >> *To:* RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA >> *Subject:* Re: [RDA-L] Question on responsibility and preferred entry >> >> ** ** >> >> Hi, Michael >> >> I did read Page xx, “About the authors”. Apparently the term "author" is >> used differently in the book. It actually means "editor" rather than >> "author" as we understand in RDA. I would suggest you to stick to the title >> page. You also can make a judgement based on the nature of the handbook. >> >> >> *About the Authors* >> >> *Frank Booty is former editor of Facilities Management and a contributor >> to, and editor of, other market-leading titles, books and web sites in the >> fields of business, IT and networking. * >> >> ** ** >> >> Hopefully it helps. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Joan Wang >> >> Illinois Heartland Library System >> >> ** ** >> >> On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 12:31 PM, Michael Borries < >> michael.borr...@mail.cuny.edu> wrote: >> >> I have in hand the fourth edition of Facilities management handbook. I >> have the edition from Routledge. (OCoLC) 244653136 is an AACR2 record for >> the Butterworth-Heinemann edition. (You can also search by ISBN: >> 9780750689779.) The cover says “edited by Frank Booty”; the title page >> leaves out “edited by,” at least in my copy (the record for the >> Butterworth-Heinemann edition suggests that “edited by” was on the title >> page, although other records suggest that “edited by” did not appear on the >> title page). >> >> >> >> Page xx, “About the authors,” lists 8 authors of the handbook, the first, >> of course, being Frank Booty, who seems, then, to be the primary author and >> the editor responsible for the final form of the volume. So, should his >> name be the preferred entry? Should I simply ignore “edited by” on the >> cover? And if I did want to give it, I assume I would not use square >> brackets, since it comes from the resource, although not from the source I >> am using for the information. >> >> >> >> Thanks in advance for any help. >> >> >> >> Michael S. Borries >> >> Cataloger, City University of New York >> >> 151 East 25th Street, 5th Floor >> >> New York, NY 10010 >> >> Phone: (646) 312-1687 >> >> Email: michael.borr...@mail.cuny.edu >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Zhonghong (Joan) Wang, Ph.D. >> Cataloger -- CMC >> >> Illinois Heartland Library System (Edwardsville Office) >> 6725 Goshen Road >> Edwardsville, IL 62025 >> 618.656.3216x409 >> 618.656.9401Fax >> > > > > -- > Zhonghong (Joan) Wang, Ph.D. > Cataloger -- CMC > Illinois Heartland Library System (Edwardsville Office) > 6725 Goshen Road > Edwardsville, IL 62025 > 618.656.3216x409 > 618.656.9401Fax > -- Zhonghong (Joan) Wang, Ph.D. Cataloger -- CMC Illinois Heartland Library System (Edwardsville Office) 6725 Goshen Road Edwardsville, IL 62025 618.656.3216x409 618.656.9401Fax
Re: [RDA-L] Question on responsibility and preferred entry
Michael Borries posted:
>I have in hand the fourth edition of Facilities management handbook. I hav=
>e the edition from Routledge. (OCoLC) 244653136 is an AACR2 record for the=
> Butterworth-Heinemann edition. (You can also search by ISBN: 978075068977=
>9.) The cover says "edited by Frank Booty"; the title page leaves out "edi=
>ted by,"
In keeping with earlier editions, I would suggest title main entry;
including "edited by" in statement of responsibility, with note of
source in 588; and an added entry for Booty with $eauthor*,$eeditor.
We the "edited by" from a dust jacket as opposed to cover, I would
consider brackets for the phrase; the jacket could be lost.
*Assuming he wrote some portions, as well as editing portions written
by others. The preface would seem to imply this. Are there bylines
for the various sections, or authors' names in a table of contents?
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Re: [RDA-L] Question on responsibility and preferred entry
I am sorry for not making myself more clear, and I think I see the source of your confusion. Frank Booty was formerly the editor of Facilities Management, the serial (not the same as Facilities Management *Handbook*, the publication in hand), as well as the editor of other publications in the same subject area. And, yes, he is also associated with previous editions of the Handbook, probably in the same way, but under AACR2, it did not make any difference in form of entry. See also the next paragraph. Of all the other authors listed on page xx, only the last is said to be an editor, once for a publisher, once for a periodical. These authors are also given at the beginning of the chapters (but not in the table of contents). Looking at the individual chapters, it appears that Frank Booty did write most of them. At the beginning of chapter 2 I found an author (one of three) who was not listed on page xx. There seems to be no way of knowing why - perhaps she did not send in her information. The more I describe this, the more I am inclined to treat Frank Booty as the preferred access point. Michael S. Borries Cataloger, City University of New York 151 East 25th Street, 5th Floor New York, NY 10010 Phone: (646) 312-1687 Email: michael.borr...@mail.cuny.edu From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Joan Wang Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2013 2:42 PM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Question on responsibility and preferred entry >From the information about Frank Booty. He is used to be an editor :) Yes. I >made an assumption from his experience. You also can check if the eight >authors are responsible for particular parts of the book. If they do write >parts of the book, they would be authors. On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 1:15 PM, Michael Borries mailto:michael.borr...@mail.cuny.edu>> wrote: Why do you think page xx means "editors" and not "authors"? I see nothing there to suggest this. Michael S. Borries Cataloger, City University of New York 151 East 25th Street, 5th Floor New York, NY 10010 Phone: (646) 312-1687 Email: michael.borr...@mail.cuny.edu<mailto:michael.borr...@mail.cuny.edu> From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA<mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA>] On Behalf Of Joan Wang Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2013 2:00 PM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA<mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA> Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Question on responsibility and preferred entry Hi, Michael I did read Page xx, "About the authors". Apparently the term "author" is used differently in the book. It actually means "editor" rather than "author" as we understand in RDA. I would suggest you to stick to the title page. You also can make a judgement based on the nature of the handbook. About the Authors Frank Booty is former editor of Facilities Management and a contributor to, and editor of, other market-leading titles, books and web sites in the fields of business, IT and networking. Hopefully it helps. Thanks, Joan Wang Illinois Heartland Library System On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 12:31 PM, Michael Borries mailto:michael.borr...@mail.cuny.edu>> wrote: I have in hand the fourth edition of Facilities management handbook. I have the edition from Routledge. (OCoLC) 244653136 is an AACR2 record for the Butterworth-Heinemann edition. (You can also search by ISBN: 9780750689779.) The cover says "edited by Frank Booty"; the title page leaves out "edited by," at least in my copy (the record for the Butterworth-Heinemann edition suggests that "edited by" was on the title page, although other records suggest that "edited by" did not appear on the title page). Page xx, "About the authors," lists 8 authors of the handbook, the first, of course, being Frank Booty, who seems, then, to be the primary author and the editor responsible for the final form of the volume. So, should his name be the preferred entry? Should I simply ignore "edited by" on the cover? And if I did want to give it, I assume I would not use square brackets, since it comes from the resource, although not from the source I am using for the information. Thanks in advance for any help. Michael S. Borries Cataloger, City University of New York 151 East 25th Street, 5th Floor New York, NY 10010 Phone: (646) 312-1687 Email: michael.borr...@mail.cuny.edu<mailto:michael.borr...@mail.cuny.edu> -- Zhonghong (Joan) Wang, Ph.D. Cataloger -- CMC Illinois Heartland Library System (Edwardsville Office) 6725 Goshen Road Edwardsville, IL 62025 618.656.3216x409 618.656.9401Fax -- Zhonghong (Joan) Wang, Ph.D. Cataloger -- CMC Illinois Heartland Library System (Edwardsville Office) 6725 Goshen Road Edwardsville, IL 62025 618.656.3216x409 618.656.9401Fax
Re: [RDA-L] Question on responsibility and preferred entry
I'm sorry, I am having a bad day. However, Frank Booty is said to be the editor of *other* titles, as part of listing his qualifications. However, I don't think any of the others are editors of anything else. Michael S. Borries Cataloger, City University of New York 151 East 25th Street, 5th Floor New York, NY 10010 Phone: (646) 312-1687 Email: michael.borr...@mail.cuny.edu From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Joan Wang Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2013 2:00 PM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Question on responsibility and preferred entry Hi, Michael I did read Page xx, "About the authors". Apparently the term "author" is used differently in the book. It actually means "editor" rather than "author" as we understand in RDA. I would suggest you to stick to the title page. You also can make a judgement based on the nature of the handbook. About the Authors Frank Booty is former editor of Facilities Management and a contributor to, and editor of, other market-leading titles, books and web sites in the fields of business, IT and networking. Hopefully it helps. Thanks, Joan Wang Illinois Heartland Library System On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 12:31 PM, Michael Borries mailto:michael.borr...@mail.cuny.edu>> wrote: I have in hand the fourth edition of Facilities management handbook. I have the edition from Routledge. (OCoLC) 244653136 is an AACR2 record for the Butterworth-Heinemann edition. (You can also search by ISBN: 9780750689779.) The cover says "edited by Frank Booty"; the title page leaves out "edited by," at least in my copy (the record for the Butterworth-Heinemann edition suggests that "edited by" was on the title page, although other records suggest that "edited by" did not appear on the title page). Page xx, "About the authors," lists 8 authors of the handbook, the first, of course, being Frank Booty, who seems, then, to be the primary author and the editor responsible for the final form of the volume. So, should his name be the preferred entry? Should I simply ignore "edited by" on the cover? And if I did want to give it, I assume I would not use square brackets, since it comes from the resource, although not from the source I am using for the information. Thanks in advance for any help. Michael S. Borries Cataloger, City University of New York 151 East 25th Street, 5th Floor New York, NY 10010 Phone: (646) 312-1687 Email: michael.borr...@mail.cuny.edu<mailto:michael.borr...@mail.cuny.edu> -- Zhonghong (Joan) Wang, Ph.D. Cataloger -- CMC Illinois Heartland Library System (Edwardsville Office) 6725 Goshen Road Edwardsville, IL 62025 618.656.3216x409 618.656.9401Fax
[RDA-L] Question on responsibility and preferred entry
I have in hand the fourth edition of Facilities management handbook. I have the edition from Routledge. (OCoLC) 244653136 is an AACR2 record for the Butterworth-Heinemann edition. (You can also search by ISBN: 9780750689779.) The cover says "edited by Frank Booty"; the title page leaves out "edited by," at least in my copy (the record for the Butterworth-Heinemann edition suggests that "edited by" was on the title page, although other records suggest that "edited by" did not appear on the title page). Page xx, "About the authors," lists 8 authors of the handbook, the first, of course, being Frank Booty, who seems, then, to be the primary author and the editor responsible for the final form of the volume. So, should his name be the preferred entry? Should I simply ignore "edited by" on the cover? And if I did want to give it, I assume I would not use square brackets, since it comes from the resource, although not from the source I am using for the information. Thanks in advance for any help. Michael S. Borries Cataloger, City University of New York 151 East 25th Street, 5th Floor New York, NY 10010 Phone: (646) 312-1687 Email: michael.borr...@mail.cuny.edu
