Re: [rdiff-backup-users] [PATCH] Sparse file support

2011-01-04 Thread Dominic Raferd

On 03/01/2011 20:27, Eric Wheeler wrote:

On Sun, Jan 02, 2011 at 08:11:00PM -0800, Eric Wheeler wrote:

Feedback and comments are appreciated!

Original Message-
From: Matthew Miller

How will this interact with existing backups?

rdiff-backup re-writes changed destination files, so if a source file
changes, rdiff-backup will write the whole file after calculating a
reverse-diff for the increment tree.

Existing backup trees will become sparse over time, as files change.

-Eric
So I guess it is forward-compatible, but not backward-compatible? 
Existing repositories can be read fine with rdiff-backup patched for 
sparse file support, but repositories created with sparse file support 
cannot be read by unpatched rdiff-backup. That's okay, but it might make 
most of us feel that we would rather not use this patch unless we 
specifically need it, until it is part of mainstream rdiff-backup.


Sadly, development of rdiff-backup has gone silent for a while now. I 
think these patches are great (as were Daniel Miller's a while ago, 
which provided a --verify-full option) but no one from the development 
side seems to be updating the code at the moment. (I would love to be 
proved wrong.)


- Dominic

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Re: [rdiff-backup-users] [PATCH] Sparse file support

2011-01-04 Thread D. Kriesel
I would also love you to be proved wrong, but some weeks ago i asked the head 
developer if he is still active in the project and did not even get an answer.



Dominic Raferd domi...@timedicer.co.uk schrieb:

On 03/01/2011 20:27, Eric Wheeler wrote:
 On Sun, Jan 02, 2011 at 08:11:00PM -0800, Eric Wheeler wrote:
 Feedback and comments are appreciated!
 Original Message-
 From: Matthew Miller
 How will this interact with existing backups?
 rdiff-backup re-writes changed destination files, so if a source file
 changes, rdiff-backup will write the whole file after calculating a
 reverse-diff for the increment tree.

 Existing backup trees will become sparse over time, as files change.

 -Eric
So I guess it is forward-compatible, but not backward-compatible? 
Existing repositories can be read fine with rdiff-backup patched for 
sparse file support, but repositories created with sparse file support 
cannot be read by unpatched rdiff-backup. That's okay, but it might
make 
most of us feel that we would rather not use this patch unless we 
specifically need it, until it is part of mainstream rdiff-backup.

Sadly, development of rdiff-backup has gone silent for a while now. I 
think these patches are great (as were Daniel Miller's a while ago, 
which provided a --verify-full option) but no one from the development 
side seems to be updating the code at the moment. (I would love to be 
proved wrong.)

- Dominic

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Re: [rdiff-backup-users] [PATCH] Sparse file support

2011-01-04 Thread Jakob Unterwurzacher
Am 04.01.2011 16:33, schrieb Dominic Raferd:
 So I guess it is forward-compatible, but not backward-compatible?
 Existing repositories can be read fine with rdiff-backup patched for
 sparse file support, but repositories created with sparse file support
 cannot be read by unpatched rdiff-backup.

Looking at the patch, it only changes the way blocks of zeroes are
written to disk - they are written as holes in the files instead.
As sparse file are completely transparent to user-space so there should
be no compatability issues whatsoever!

Jakob

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