AW: [rdiff-backup-users] Rdiff backup still chokes if read-only files are found at target

2010-11-29 Thread D. Kriesel
Anybody here? ;-) The list seems to be a bit quiet. If this is the wrong
place for this report, someone please tell me the correct one :-)
 
I feel I did not provide enough information to get rid of the below bug. So,
here you go:
1.   I am using rdiff 1.3.3 for a local backup on a windows server 2003
32bit machine. 
2.   I am using the windows release that can be downloaded on
rdiff-backup.nongnu.org as rdiff-backup-1.3.3-win32.zip.
3.   My rdiff call is: rdiff-backup --force --no-acls --no-hard-links
--print-statistics --include D:\\/home --include D:\\/profile --exclude
D:\\/share/ElRv-Daten --include D:\\/share --exclude D:\\/** D:\/
D:\/rd/data
4.   Zugriff verweigert in the below message is german for permission
denied. When checking the folders, I found that the ACL entries are okay,
but the read-only flag on the Eigene Bilder folder was set. 
 
So all in all, it seems to me that rdiff cannot remove this flag from
folders. Below linked you find a similar problem with files. Next, windows
prevents rdiff from deleting a folder that is still marked read-only.
Consecuently, Rdiff crashes. 
 
To support my concern, I can tell you that you find quite a number of „read
only folders“ on windows systems, because that windows itself uses the read
only flag on folders differently than on files: see
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/256614 . Additionally, the attribute setting
for folders may be handled different (for example, you can’t remove read
only attribute on folders just using the explorer). 
 
Any help is appreciated, really... I like rdiff and don’t want to chance the
backup system (again)... 
 
Cheers,
David
 
 
 -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
 Von: rdiff-backup-users-bounces+mail=dkriesel@nongnu.org
 [mailto:rdiff-backup-users-bounces+mail=dkriesel@nongnu.org] Im
 Auftrag von D. Kriesel
 Gesendet: Sonntag, 28. November 2010 01:52
 An: Lista rdiff-backup
 Betreff: [rdiff-backup-users] Rdiff backup still chokes if read-only files
are
 found at target
 
 Hi guys,
 
 I have rdiff crashing when read-only files are in the rdiff repository. It
 gives the following Exceptions:
 
 Exception '[Error 5] Zugriff verweigert: 'D:\\/rd/data/home/kwasny/Eigene
 Dateie
 n/Eigene Bilder'' raised of class 'type 'exceptions.WindowsError'':
   File rdiff_backup\Main.pyc, line 306, in error_check_Main
   File rdiff_backup\Main.pyc, line 326, in Main
   File rdiff_backup\Main.pyc, line 282, in take_action
   File rdiff_backup\Main.pyc, line 345, in Backup
   File rdiff_backup\backup.pyc, line 51, in Mirror_and_increment
   File rdiff_backup\backup.pyc, line 251, in patch_and_increment
   File rdiff_backup\rorpiter.pyc, line 277, in __call__
   File rdiff_backup\rorpiter.pyc, line 229, in finish_branches
   File rdiff_backup\backup.pyc, line 676, in end_process
   File rdiff_backup\rpath.pyc, line 993, in rmdir
 
 Traceback (most recent call last):
   File rdiff-backup, line 30, in module
   File rdiff_backup\Main.pyc, line 306, in error_check_Main
   File rdiff_backup\Main.pyc, line 326, in Main
   File rdiff_backup\Main.pyc, line 282, in take_action
   File rdiff_backup\Main.pyc, line 345, in Backup
   File rdiff_backup\backup.pyc, line 51, in Mirror_and_increment
   File rdiff_backup\backup.pyc, line 251, in patch_and_increment
   File rdiff_backup\rorpiter.pyc, line 277, in __call__
   File rdiff_backup\rorpiter.pyc, line 229, in finish_branches
   File rdiff_backup\backup.pyc, line 676, in end_process
   File rdiff_backup\rpath.pyc, line 993, in rmdir
 WindowsError: [Error 5] Zugriff verweigert:
 'D:\\/rd/data/home/kwasny/Eigene
 Dat
 eien/Eigene Bilder'
 
 
 Sounds similar to me like the old read-only file issue.
  http://www.mail-archive.com/rdiff-backup-users@nongnu.org/msg03549.html
http://www.mail-archive.com/rdiff-backup-
 http://www.mail-archive.com/rdiff-backup-users@nongnu.org/msg03549.html 
us...@nongnu.org/msg03549.html
 
 Any advice?
 
 Cheers,
 David
 
 
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AW: AW: [rdiff-backup-users] Rdiff backup still chokes if read-only files are found at target

2010-11-29 Thread D. Kriesel
 Following your posting, I have tested the behaviour of our system
 backing up read-only folders and files with rdiff-backup, and it works
 correctly, even when the read-only files change. We are backing up from
 Windows machines but to a Linux server (using TimeDicer as wrapper for
 rdiff-backup), I suspect this is where your problem lies.
 
 So a possible solution is to move your backup repository to a Linux
 server, this could even be a VM hosted on your Windows machine.

Dominic,

thank you so far! I think setting up a linux server might be a solution, and
will consider this, yes. We need a running backup and if this is the way to
do, we need to do it. Moreover, I did not know timedicer so far. Reading the
TODO list that includes a GUI, I suggest you to have a look on
http://www.nongnu.org/jbackpack/ - this is a nice gui for RDIFF
repositories.

 However, this does not solve the issue within rdiff-backup. Even though I
could just install a linux machine, for many users this will not be an
option

Greetz from Bonn,
David


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Re: AW: [rdiff-backup-users] Rdiff backup still chokes if read-only files are found at target

2010-11-29 Thread Dominic Raferd

David:

Following your posting, I have tested the behaviour of our system 
backing up read-only folders and files with rdiff-backup, and it works 
correctly, even when the read-only files change. We are backing up from 
Windows machines but to a Linux server (using TimeDicer as wrapper for 
rdiff-backup), I suspect this is where your problem lies.


So a possible solution is to move your backup repository to a Linux 
server, this could even be a VM hosted on your Windows machine.


Dominic

On 29/11/2010 10:04, D. Kriesel wrote:


Anybody here? ;-) The list seems to be a bit quiet. If this is the 
wrong place for this report, someone please tell me the correct one :-)


I feel I did not provide enough information to get rid of the below 
bug. So, here you go:


1.I am using rdiff 1.3.3 for a local backup on a windows server 2003 
32bit machine.


2.I am using the windows release that can be downloaded on 
rdiff-backup.nongnu.org as rdiff-backup-1.3.3-win32.zip.


3.My rdiff call is: rdiff-backup --force --no-acls --no-hard-links 
--print-statistics --include D:\\/home --include D:\\/profile 
--exclude D:\\/share/ElRv-Daten --include D:\\/share --exclude 
D:\\/** D:\/ D:\/rd/data


4.Zugriff verweigert in the below message is german for permission 
denied. When checking the folders, I found that the ACL entries are 
okay, but the read-only flag on the Eigene Bilder folder was set.


So all in all, *it**seems to me that rdiff cannot remove this flag 
from folders*. Below linked you find a similar problem with files. 
Next, *windows**prevents rdiff from deleting a folder that is still 
marked read-only*. Consecuently, Rdiff crashes.


To support my concern, I can tell you that you find quite a number of 
„read only folders“ on windows systems, because that windows itself 
uses the read only flag on folders differently than on files: see 
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/256614 . Additionally, the attribute 
setting for folders may be handled different (for example, you can’t 
remove read only attribute on folders just using the explorer).


Any help is appreciated, really... I like rdiff and don’t want to 
chance the backup system (again)...


Cheers,

David

 -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-

 Von: rdiff-backup-users-bounces+mail=dkriesel@nongnu.org

 [mailto:rdiff-backup-users-bounces+mail=dkriesel@nongnu.org] Im

 Auftrag von D. Kriesel

 Gesendet: Sonntag, 28. November 2010 01:52

 An: Lista rdiff-backup

 Betreff: [rdiff-backup-users] Rdiff backup still chokes if read-only 
files are


 found at target



 Hi guys,



 I have rdiff crashing when read-only files are in the rdiff 
repository. It


 gives the following Exceptions:



 Exception '[Error 5] Zugriff verweigert: 'D:\\/rd/data/home/kwasny/Eigene

 Dateie

 n/Eigene Bilder'' raised of class 'type 'exceptions.WindowsError'':

 File rdiff_backup\Main.pyc, line 306, in error_check_Main

 File rdiff_backup\Main.pyc, line 326, in Main

 File rdiff_backup\Main.pyc, line 282, in take_action

 File rdiff_backup\Main.pyc, line 345, in Backup

 File rdiff_backup\backup.pyc, line 51, in Mirror_and_increment

 File rdiff_backup\backup.pyc, line 251, in patch_and_increment

 File rdiff_backup\rorpiter.pyc, line 277, in __call__

 File rdiff_backup\rorpiter.pyc, line 229, in finish_branches

 File rdiff_backup\backup.pyc, line 676, in end_process

 File rdiff_backup\rpath.pyc, line 993, in rmdir



 Traceback (most recent call last):

 File rdiff-backup, line 30, in module

 File rdiff_backup\Main.pyc, line 306, in error_check_Main

 File rdiff_backup\Main.pyc, line 326, in Main

 File rdiff_backup\Main.pyc, line 282, in take_action

 File rdiff_backup\Main.pyc, line 345, in Backup

 File rdiff_backup\backup.pyc, line 51, in Mirror_and_increment

 File rdiff_backup\backup.pyc, line 251, in patch_and_increment

 File rdiff_backup\rorpiter.pyc, line 277, in __call__

 File rdiff_backup\rorpiter.pyc, line 229, in finish_branches

 File rdiff_backup\backup.pyc, line 676, in end_process

 File rdiff_backup\rpath.pyc, line 993, in rmdir

 WindowsError: [Error 5] Zugriff verweigert:

 'D:\\/rd/data/home/kwasny/Eigene

 Dat

 eien/Eigene Bilder'





 Sounds similar to me like the old read-only file issue.

 http://www.mail-archive.com/rdiff-backup- 
http://www.mail-archive.com/rdiff-backup-users@nongnu.org/msg03549.html


 us...@nongnu.org/msg03549.html 
http://www.mail-archive.com/rdiff-backup-users@nongnu.org/msg03549.html




 Any advice?



 Cheers,

 David




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