Re: [Rdkit-discuss] Q2 2010 Release

2010-07-02 Thread Evgueni Kolossov
Thank you very much

Regards,
Evgueni

On 2 July 2010 07:11, Greg Landrum  wrote:

> Hi Evgueni,
>
> On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 8:06 AM, Evgueni Kolossov 
> wrote:
> >
> > Thank you very much. I understood I need to rebuild again to have all
> > libraries in one place or copy them manually?
>
> If you get the new version of $RDBASE/Code/cmake/Modules/RDKitUtils.cmake
> from here:
>
> http://rdkit.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/rdkit/trunk/Code/cmake/Modules/RDKitUtils.cmake?revision=1444
> then rerun cmake and re-open the rdkit solution, you should have an
> INSTALL target. Building that target will copy the libraries to
> $RDBASE/lib for you.
>
> Alternatively you can copy them manually, whichever you find easier.
>
> -greg
>
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[Rdkit-discuss] something new

2010-07-02 Thread Greg Landrum
Dear all,

I'm really excited to announce the most recent contribution from
Novartis to the RDKit: a cartridge for similarity searching in
PostgeSQL. The cartridge supports Tanimoto and Dice similarity for
both bitmap and count-vector fingerprints and currently supports
RDKit, layered, morgan (ECFP-like), atom-pair, and topological torsion
fingerprinters. Adding a new fingerprinter (either using the RDKit or
some other C/C++ library) is very straightforward. We make use of the
PostgreSQL index system, so searches are fast. Our benchmarking work
was done with a database of about 4 million drug-like compounds.
Searching this database using drug-like molecules as queries and
binary fingerprints typically takes around 4 seconds on a single CPU
(these queries are returning 10s-1000s of results). I have no doubt
that this can be made faster by tuning database parameters (the
results here are for the standard PostgreSQL settings), but we're
pretty happy with things already.

The cartridge also allows substructure searching (using SMILES), but
that's not as highly optimized as the similarity searching. We'll
continue to work on this and will add SMARTS support in the future.

The cartridge builds on linux and the mac. I don't plan to support it
on Windows, but if someone else can get it working, I'd be happy to
have someone else do so.

As of this morning, the code is in svn:
http://rdkit.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/rdkit/trunk/Code/PgSQL/rdkit/
There's a README that gives some build/install instructions (it's
pretty easy), but I'll be adding additional information on the wiki on
pages linked from here:
http://code.google.com/p/rdkit/wiki/PostgresCartridge

Nik Stiefl will be presenting a poster at the upcoming Sheffield
conference that describes some of our work with and on open-source
projects and that includes some details about the cartridge. If you
happen to be in Sheffield, please swing by Nik's poster and check it
out.

This wouldn't have happened without the ideas and support provided by
my colleague Andy Palmer. There are a lot of other people to
acknowledge -- this isn't a project I could have done myself -- but
rather than forgetting anyone I will hold off on trying to get the
names down until the real release announcement is done.

I will be writing more about this in the near future, and we'll
probably be writing a paper about the whole story, but I wanted to
give the community an initial heads up that the code is there.

Best Regards,
-greg

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Re: [Rdkit-discuss] something new

2010-07-02 Thread Riccardo Vianello
That's wonderful news. Congratulations and thank you and your
colleagues for all this work.

Regards,
Riccardo

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[Rdkit-discuss] Help wanted: packaging the RDKit

2010-07-02 Thread Greg Landrum
Dear all,

I think the RDKit is now in a reasonable state to consider creating
packages for linux distributions (at least for ubuntu/debian and
fedora). Unfortunately this isn't a process I know anything about.

Do any of you have experience of this? Would you be willing to either
do the packaging or at least help explain how it should be done?

Thanks in advance for volunteers,
-greg

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Re: [Rdkit-discuss] Help wanted: packaging the RDKit

2010-07-02 Thread Gianluca Sforna
On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 10:31 AM, Greg Landrum  wrote:
> Do any of you have experience of this?

I'm a Fedora package maintainer so I guess I can have a look at it.

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Re: [Rdkit-discuss] Help wanted: packaging the RDKit

2010-07-02 Thread Greg Landrum
On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 10:47 AM, Gianluca Sforna  wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 10:31 AM, Greg Landrum  wrote:
>> Do any of you have experience of this?
>
> I'm a Fedora package maintainer so I guess I can have a look at it.

Thanks! That would be very cool. Let me know if there's any
information you need or some way I can help.

Best Regards,
-greg

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Re: [Rdkit-discuss] something new

2010-07-02 Thread Adrian Schreyer
That's great news indeed Greg!

I want to migrate from MySQL to PostgreSQL once version 9.0 is
released and the rdkit cartridge will be very useful for my future
work. SMARTS support would be great as well. Do you intend on adding
things like MACCS keys and SMIRKS for transformations/reactions in the
future?

Adrian

On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 09:00, Riccardo Vianello
 wrote:
> That's wonderful news. Congratulations and thank you and your
> colleagues for all this work.
>
> Regards,
> Riccardo
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Re: [Rdkit-discuss] something new

2010-07-02 Thread Greg Landrum
Hi Adrian,

On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 11:24 AM, Adrian Schreyer  wrote:
> That's great news indeed Greg!

Thanks.

> I want to migrate from MySQL to PostgreSQL once version 9.0 is
> released and the rdkit cartridge will be very useful for my future
> work.

yeah, I'm looking forward to v9.0. I'm not sure how long it's going to
take to get support for that into the cartridge, but it will clearly
be a priority once v9.0 is out.

> SMARTS support would be great as well. Do you intend on adding
> things like MACCS keys and SMIRKS for transformations/reactions in the
> future?

MACCS keys would be pretty simple once the python code is ported to
C++. That shouldn't be too much work; it's certainly worth a feature
request (hint hint).

SMIRKS is more difficult since the RDKit doesn't currently support
true SMIRKS at all (instead it supports the Reaction SMARTS, which is
something unique to the RDKit). I have SMIRKS support on the todo list
already, but it may be a while before that happens.

The general thought of adding reaction support to the cartridge is one
we've talked about. It's do-able, but first we'd need to come up with
a good idea of what types of searches should be supported and what the
results should be.

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[Rdkit-discuss] Interacting with molecules in PyMOL

2010-07-02 Thread James Davidson
Dear All,
 
I am trying to work out the best way to accomplish some tasks involving
RDKit, using PyMOL as an interface, and would appreciate some help.  I
would like to be able to start from a PDB file of a ligand-bound crystal
structure loaded in PyMOL and be able to 'virtually' build some
analogues - initially just simple substitutions - and visually inspect
the results.
 
(1)  So my first question is - having started PyMOL with the -R option,
is there an easy or recommended way of transferring molecules from PyMOL
to RDKit?  I can accomplish this by writing molfiles to a temporary
file, but wondered if I am creating work, if eg RDKit could
automatically create Mol objects from non-biopolymer atoms in PyMol(?).
ie it would be nice if:
 
from rdkit import Chem
from rdkit.Chem import PyMol
v = PyMol.MolViewer()
 
# Invented function to create an RDKit mol object
mol = v.GetAtomsAsMol(selection)
 
(2)  Once the ligand is converted to an RDKit mol object (by whatever
means) I want to enumrate some libraries of virtual products - eg
choosing an atom in PyMol as the attachment point, then running a set of
reactions to get products with a set of substituents added.  In
principle I think this is quite straightforward; however, what I am
struggling with is a mechanism to 'freeze' the 3D coordintes of the
original ligand atoms, but still be able to use RDKit to generate
sensible 3D positions for the newly added atoms so that the products can
be passed back to PyMOL and minimised in situ (if required) using
'mengine.exe'.  Am I looking at this the wrong way, and should I
actually try aligning the virtual products back on the starting ligand
conformation?
 
(3)  Apologies that this last point is maybe a bit off-topic, but I
wondered if anyone has an opinion as to whether MMTK is the way to go
for 'simple' minimisations of modified ligands bound to proteins? (I
don't have any real experience with MMTK...
 
Kind regards
 
James

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Re: [Rdkit-discuss] Interacting with molecules in PyMOL

2010-07-02 Thread Greg Landrum
Dear James,

On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 3:05 PM, James Davidson  wrote:
> Dear All,
>
> I am trying to work out the best way to accomplish some tasks involving
> RDKit, using PyMOL as an interface, and would appreciate some help.  I would
> like to be able to start from a PDB file of a ligand-bound crystal structure
> loaded in PyMOL and be able to 'virtually' build some analogues - initially
> just simple substitutions - and visually inspect the results.
>
> (1)  So my first question is - having started PyMOL with the -R option, is
> there an easy or recommended way of transferring molecules from PyMOL to
> RDKit?  I can accomplish this by writing molfiles to a temporary file, but
> wondered if I am creating work, if eg RDKit could automatically create Mol
> objects from non-biopolymer atoms in PyMol(?).  ie it would be nice if:
>
> from rdkit import Chem
> from rdkit.Chem import PyMol
> v = PyMol.MolViewer()
>
> # Invented function to create an RDKit mol object
> mol = v.GetAtomsAsMol(selection)

The only way I currently know of to get molecule data out of pymol is
to use the save command and a temporary file; one could create the
function above on the basis of the fact that this command works
without problems:
  v.server.do('save /tmp/blah.mol,(sele)')

If there were sufficient demand for it, I'd guess that Jason would add
(or arrange to have added) an option to the save command to make the
results available as text instead of sending them to a file. It might
be worth asking him.

> (2)  Once the ligand is converted to an RDKit mol object (by whatever means)
> I want to enumrate some libraries of virtual products - eg choosing an atom
> in PyMol as the attachment point, then running a set of reactions to get
> products with a set of substituents added.  In principle I think this is
> quite straightforward; however, what I am struggling with is a mechanism to
> 'freeze' the 3D coordintes of the original ligand atoms, but still be able
> to use RDKit to generate sensible 3D positions for the newly added atoms so
> that the products can be passed back to PyMOL and minimised in situ (if
> required) using 'mengine.exe'.  Am I looking at this the wrong way, and
> should I actually try aligning the virtual products back on the starting
> ligand conformation?

Well, you may be looking at it the wrong way, but I've looked at it
that way too, so we're at least wrong together. ;-)

There is an underdocumented (where, in this case under == un) function
that does part of what I believe you want in AllChem:

#---
# start by getting a geometry for our core, for the purposes of the demo:
[28]>>> core = Chem.MolFromSmiles('c1cc(C)cc2c1[nH]cc2')
[29]>>> core = Chem.AddHs(core)
[30]>>> AllChem.EmbedMolecule(core)
Out[30] 0
[31]>>> AllChem.UFFOptimizeMolecule(core)
Out[31] 0
# remove the Hs, otherwise we won't get a substruct match:
[32]>>> core = Chem.RemoveHs(core)

#---
# now generate the query molecule, with Hs :
[34]>>> mol = Chem.MolFromSmiles('CCc1cc(C)cc2c1[n](C(=O)OC)cc2')
[35]>>> mol = Chem.AddHs(mol)

# do the constrained embedding:
[37]>>> newMol=AllChem.ConstrainedEmbed(mol,core,True)

# the molecule has a property with the RMS for the final alignment:
[38]>>> mol.GetProp('EmbedRMS')
Out[38] '0.0278532402393'

# but we can also demonstrate that the geometries are similar by inspection:
[39]>>> print Chem.MolToMolBlock(core)
--> print(Chem.MolToMolBlock(core))

 RDKit  3D

 10 11  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0999 V2000
   -0.20381.6188   -0.4456 C   0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0
1.15381.2875   -0.3158 C   0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0
1.5492   -0.02450.0270 C   0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0
3.0012   -0.35020.2035 C   0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0
0.5703   -1.00780.2731 C   0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0
   -0.7746   -0.65930.1391 C   0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0
   -1.15070.6210   -0.2130 C   0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0
   -2.50180.7120   -0.2748 N   0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0
   -2.9792   -0.52290.0418 C   0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0
   -1.9314   -1.39260.3038 C   0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0
  1  2  2  0
  2  3  1  0
  3  4  1  0
  3  5  2  0
  5  6  1  0
  6  7  2  0
  7  8  1  0
  8  9  1  0
  9 10  2  0
  7  1  1  0
 10  6  1  0
M  END


[40]>>> print Chem.MolToMolBlock(Chem.RemoveHs(newMol))
--> print(Chem.MolToMolBlock(Chem.RemoveHs(newMol)))

 RDKit  3D

 16 17  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0999 V2000
0.04603.98870.5472 C   0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0
   -0.48153.1257   -0.5989 C   0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0
   -0.18791.6533   -0.4169 C   0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0
1.16681.2744   -0.3174 C   0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0
1.5491   -0.03640.0192 C   0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0
3.0001   -0.36510.2010 C   0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0
0.5630   -1.00

Re: [Rdkit-discuss] Interacting with molecules in PyMOL

2010-07-02 Thread James Davidson
Dear Greg,

Thanks for your very rapid response - 'AllChem.ConstrainedEmbed' was
just what I was looking for!


Kind regards

James

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Re: [Rdkit-discuss] Interacting with molecules in PyMOL

2010-07-02 Thread James Davidson
I just wanted to quickly update the List on how I've got on with this,
in case it is of use / interest to others.  I followed Greg's advice and
did the following:
 
1.  Exported molfile from PyMOL
2.  Read into RDKit
3.  Read in an SDF of already-constructed molecules based on the core
(could have built the products in RDKit, but the SDF was already
available!)
4.  Iterated over the objects in the supplier to do the
AllChem.ConstrainedEmbed as discussed, then load the results into PyMOL
 
NOTE - Because the molecules weren't built in RDKit, I couldn't rely on
the atom numbering when read into PyMOL (maybe this can't be relied on
anyway?).  So I ran mol.GetSubstructMatch(core) for each molecule to get
the aligned product atom IDs that matched the core.  I then flagged
these in PyMOL with flag 3 [Fixed Atoms (no movement allowed)] (flag 2 -
harmonically constrained may be better..?) so that I could subsequently
run the mengine 'clean' command in PyMOL to tidy-up the UFF output
without allowing the template to move:
 
from rdkit import Chem
core = Chem.MolFromMolFile(mol_filepath)
supplier = Chem.SDMolSupplier(sdf_filepath)
for n,mol in enumerate(supplier):
mol = Chem.AddHs(mol)
newMol = AllChem.ConstrainedEmbed(mol, core, True)
name = "mol"+str(n)
fix = ','.join([str(n) for n in mol.GetSubstructMatch(core)])
v.ShowMol(newMol, name=name, showOnly=False)
selection = '('+name+' and (id '+fix+'))'
v.server.do('flag 3, '+selection+', set')
 
 
Kind regards
 
James

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Re: [Rdkit-discuss] Interacting with molecules in PyMOL

2010-07-02 Thread Greg Landrum
Dear James,

Thanks for sending along the information about how you did the pymol
steps; I'm sure it will be useful to others. Tighter RDKit-PyMol
integration is definitely a good thing.

Best Regards,
-greg

On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 8:09 PM, James Davidson  wrote:
> I just wanted to quickly update the List on how I've got on with this, in
> case it is of use / interest to others.  I followed Greg's advice and did
> the following:
>
> 1.  Exported molfile from PyMOL
> 2.  Read into RDKit
> 3.  Read in an SDF of already-constructed molecules based on the core (could
> have built the products in RDKit, but the SDF was already available!)
> 4.  Iterated over the objects in the supplier to do the
> AllChem.ConstrainedEmbed as discussed, then load the results into PyMOL
>
> NOTE - Because the molecules weren't built in RDKit, I couldn't rely on the
> atom numbering when read into PyMOL (maybe this can't be relied on
> anyway?).  So I ran mol.GetSubstructMatch(core) for each molecule to get the
> aligned product atom IDs that matched the core.  I then flagged these in
> PyMOL with flag 3 [Fixed Atoms (no movement allowed)] (flag 2 - harmonically
> constrained may be better..?) so that I could subsequently run the mengine
> 'clean' command in PyMOL to tidy-up the UFF output without allowing the
> template to move:
>
> from rdkit import Chem
> core = Chem.MolFromMolFile(mol_filepath)
> supplier = Chem.SDMolSupplier(sdf_filepath)
> for n,mol in enumerate(supplier):
>     mol = Chem.AddHs(mol)
>     newMol = AllChem.ConstrainedEmbed(mol, core, True)
>     name = "mol"+str(n)
>     fix = ','.join([str(n) for n in mol.GetSubstructMatch(core)])
>     v.ShowMol(newMol, name=name, showOnly=False)
>     selection = '('+name+' and (id '+fix+'))'
>     v.server.do('flag 3, '+selection+', set')
>
>
> Kind regards
>
> James
>

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Re: [Rdkit-discuss] Q2 2010 Release

2010-07-02 Thread Greg Landrum
On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 10:27 PM, Thomas Heller  wrote:
>
> If it isn't too much work for you I would very much appreciate a python 2.5
> windows binary.

I'll do a python 2.5 build next week. I have to remember how to set
the environment up to use an alternate python compiler. :-)

-greg

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