Re: [RE-wrenches] Federal Tax Credit
Hmmm, that doesn't look right; it says $1,500 maximum credit?? Mark Cobalt Power Systems, Inc. Here is the draft version of the new 2009 Form 5695 Federal Personal Tax Credit (Residential): http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-dft/f5695--dft.pdf Pat Redgate Ameco Solar Can someone tell me what is the form # for the federal solar tax credit? thanks, jay ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] Federal Tax Credit
I think we can assume that the $1500 cap listed is a mistake. However, I seem to recall reading an early PR of the expected new laws and it said that you could take the FULL cost of system to calc the 30% and other incentives (State, City and Utility) would not be deducted allowing for a double dip in the incentives. Now I'm hearing that you must deduct these other incentives from your cost before applying the 30% fed. credit. I see nowhere on the Draft Form 5695 a place to list other incentives and to deduct them from the cost. Can anyone provide the definitive on this and/or links to documentation? Thanks, -jeff o From the Solar, Wind and Hydro powered office of Jeff Oldham/Regenerative SOLutions Best Weight Loss Program - Click Here! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2131/fc/BLSrjnsEGrHW3b2SGWsn1mSKEPadOv9nTKdRG4GrqnjrD9Db8RDpstHzSQg/ ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] Federal Tax Credit
Mark: This form is trying to be all things for all residential energy improvements. Part one is for non-business Energy Property and Part two is for Energy Efficiency Property. The tax wonks classify these improvements separately for their own purposes. In a message dated 9/9/2009 9:54:40 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, al...@positiveenergysolar.com writes: Mark, Read it more closely. $1,500 is an aggregate limit on the 30% credit for energy-efficiency expenses. That credit is a substantial improvement over the preceding item-specific credits, in that it lets you combine an aggregate of energy-saving measures. The residential solar 30% uncapped credit is in a separate section on the next page. Allan Sindelar _al...@positiveenergysolar.com_ (mailto:al...@positiveenergysolar.com) NABCEP Certified Photovoltaic Installer EE98J Journeyman Electrician Positive Energy, Inc. 3201 Calle Marie Santa Fe, New Mexico 87507 505 424-1112 _www.positiveenergysolar.com_ (http://www.positiveenergysolar.com/) From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Mark Byington Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 7:33 AM To: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Federal Tax Credit Hmmm, that doesn’t look right; it says $1,500 maximum credit?? Mark Cobalt Power Systems, Inc. Here is the draft version of the new 2009 Form 5695 Federal Personal Tax Credit (Residential): _http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-dft/f5695--dft.pdf_ (http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-dft/f5695--dft.pdf) Pat Redgate Ameco Solar Can someone tell me what is the form # for the federal solar tax credit? thanks, jay ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] Federal Tax Credit
Mark, Read it more closely. $1,500 is an aggregate limit on the 30% credit for energy-efficiency expenses. That credit is a substantial improvement over the preceding item-specific credits, in that it lets you combine an aggregate of energy-saving measures. The residential solar 30% uncapped credit is in a separate section on the next page. Allan Sindelar al...@positiveenergysolar.com NABCEP Certified Photovoltaic Installer EE98J Journeyman Electrician Positive Energy, Inc. 3201 Calle Marie Santa Fe, New Mexico 87507 505 424-1112 www.positiveenergysolar.com From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Mark Byington Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 7:33 AM To: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Federal Tax Credit Hmmm, that doesn't look right; it says $1,500 maximum credit?? Mark Cobalt Power Systems, Inc. Here is the draft version of the new 2009 Form 5695 Federal Personal Tax Credit (Residential): http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-dft/f5695--dft.pdf Pat Redgate Ameco Solar Can someone tell me what is the form # for the federal solar tax credit? thanks, jay ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] Federal Tax Credit
In a message dated 9/9/2009 6:34:01 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, ma...@cobaltpower.com writes: Hmmm, that doesn’t look right; it says $1,500 maximum credit?? Mark Cobalt Power Systems, Inc. Mark, Check out part 2. The first page covers basically efficiency stuff. Page 2 is for equipment purchases. Don ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] tax credit form.
Allow me to reiterate. You will have the best luck discussing tax credits and other incentives on the RE-Markets list. There are some experts there that are not qualified for the Wrench list. Contact me off list if you have any questions. ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
[RE-wrenches] array grounding in Canada
Wrenches, Canadian Electric Code rule 84-030 states that a direct power source connected through an inverter shall not be grounded unless the inverter AC power is separated from the supply authority system by an isolating transformer. Our proposed system would be separated by a step up transformer to medium voltage. The Canadian code doesn't seem to address floating arrays. Anyone know of any precedents or other reasons why a floated array shouldn't be allowable in Canada? Thanks, Jerry Caldwell --- On Mon, 8/31/09, Bill Brooks billbroo...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Bill Brooks billbroo...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] max PV voltage in Canada To: 'RE-wrenches' re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Date: Monday, August 31, 2009, 8:57 PM Re: [RE-wrenches] max PV voltage in Canada Jerry, The Canadian requirements are simplistic and based on the 1996 and prior NEC. Canada is simply not keeping their code up to date and recognizing the fact that their western coast has significantly milder weather and that thin films do not have the same temperature coefficients as crystalline. I’m not sure they are enforcing this for all the big thin projects going on in Ontario however. These are engineered systems that are not required to follow the simplistic code requirements. Bill. From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Jerry Caldwell Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 2:05 PM To: RE-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] max PV voltage in Canada Thank you Rob, So instead of using specific weather data temperature coefficients, they use one derate factor for the whole country? Is the system maximum voltage 600V? I found the following from a presentation online, but no quick easy answer for my question: Voltage Rating [50-006] • 50-006 Voltage Rating of Photovoltaic Source Circuits Voc x 125% • Rated open circuit voltage • Temperature affects Voc of modules. • Based on ambient temperature of -40°C. Best, Jerry Caldwell From: Rob Harlan mendo...@mcn.org To: RE-wrenches re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 12:27:15 PM Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] max PV voltage in Canada Jerry, This might address what you are asking: Rule # 50-006 of the Canadian Electrical Code increases the voltage rating of the photovoltaic source circuit by 25% above the STC rated open circuit voltage. This would apply to the photovoltaic output circuits as well. Hope that helps, Rob Rob Harlan Executive Director Solar Energy Society of Canada Northern Alberta Chapter (780) 439-5608 off...@solatalberta.ca On 8/31/09 11:41 AM, Jerry Caldwell solarcow...@yahoo.com wrote: Dear Wrenches, Anyone know off the top of their head what the maximum PV array voltage is per the Canadian Electric Code? Are there any published voltage restrictions for behind the fence installations (for Ontario in particular)? Cheers, Jerry Caldwell ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org -Inline Attachment Follows- ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
[RE-wrenches] Need Some Sharp 187s
We need to buy about 92 Sharp ND-187U1F to match some obsolete inventory we have. Anyone have some older inventory they want to sell? Please contact me off list, ma...@cobaltpower.com Thanks Mark Cobalt Power Systems, Inc. ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] Pitched EPDM Roof Attachment
Carl check out the Unirac Fast Foot. http://www.unirac.com/pdf/fastfoot_install.pdf Jim Duncan North Texas Renewable Energy Inc 817.917.0527 nt...@earthlink.net www.ntrei.com *** - Original Message - From: Carl Adams swingjun...@gmail.com To: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 3:04 PM Subject: [RE-wrenches] Pitched EPDM Roof Attachment Hello Wrenches, I have a job on a 3.5/12 pitched rubber roof. We have 1.5” foam under the EPDM, then the steel decking, then the purlins. Purlin spacing supports adequate attachment points for a conventional rail mounted system. I have 2 questions 1) A typical L-foot attachment to the roof would likely compress the underlying foam and result in divets at each foot. What do you recommend to disperse the load at the point of attachment 2) What type of screw do you recommend for attaching the L-Feet to the purlins With Regards Carl Adams NABCEP Certified Solar PV Installer NABCEP Certified Solar Thermal Installer SunRock Solar Cincinnati, Ohio 513.766.6025 www.sunrocksolar.com ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] Pitched EPDM Roof Attachment
That¹s what came to my mind, as well, based on the description. David Brearley, Senior Technical Editor SolarPro magazine On 9/9/09 7:14 PM, North Texas Renewable Energy Inc nt...@earthlink.net wrote: Carl check out the Unirac Fast Foot. http://www.unirac.com/pdf/fastfoot_install.pdf Jim Duncan North Texas Renewable Energy Inc 817.917.0527 nt...@earthlink.net www.ntrei.com *** - Original Message - From: Carl Adams swingjun...@gmail.com To: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 3:04 PM Subject: [RE-wrenches] Pitched EPDM Roof Attachment Hello Wrenches, I have a job on a 3.5/12 pitched rubber roof. We have 1.5² foam under the EPDM, then the steel decking, then the purlins. Purlin spacing supports adequate attachment points for a conventional rail mounted system. I have 2 questions 1) A typical L-foot attachment to the roof would likely compress the underlying foam and result in divets at each foot. What do you recommend to disperse the load at the point of attachment 2) What type of screw do you recommend for attaching the L-Feet to the purlins With Regards Carl Adams NABCEP Certified Solar PV Installer NABCEP Certified Solar Thermal Installer SunRock Solar Cincinnati, Ohio 513.766.6025 www.sunrocksolar.com ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
[RE-wrenches] losses to competing angles in single strings
hello wrenches. I was wondering if any of you have any data on what the losses would be if you had your string split with 2 different angles, but at the same azimuth. For instance, string of 11 with 8 facing 180 south at 30 degrees, and 3 facing south 180 at 45 degrees. I have heard that the voltages and currents would differ and the IV curve would be inefficient as a string, but I dont know how much of a loss would be expected. thanks in advance, and hopefully I didnt miss anything in the archives. thanks, nick ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
