Re: [RE-wrenches] Sealed L-16 size batteries / battery terminals
Hello William, We had a great first year sales with Fullriver. It is still too soon for me to have a proficient opinion on them, but I really like the quality and performance so far. The M8 threaded insert in Fullriver (and Lifeline) have never given us any trouble but you must pay attention to the torque value. Available in 2 and 6 volt. BTW, you can remove the Fullriver brass terminal to lower the height of your connection if needed. The MK are made by Deka so you might check with them for a different terminal config. Terminal torque guide: http://www.fullriver.com/products/admin/upfile/Terminaltorque.pdf Larry Crutcher Starlight Solar Power Systems 11871 S Fortuna Road, #210 Yuma, AZ 85367 la...@starlightsolar.com (928) 342-9103 On Jun 27, 2011, at 3:33 PM, William Miller wrote: Colleagues I need to replace batteries for a customer. They have Trojan L-16 batteries in an infrequently occupied vacation home. Maintenance has been an issue due to the infrequency in which the customer is on site. I think VRLA batteries are indicated. The enclosure is built for L-16 size batteries so it would be ideal to find VRLA batteries the same size. I find that Fullriver and US Battery offer batteries that meet the size specification. Do any of you have experience with these batteries? I notice that Trojan and MK have abandoned the threaded stud connections in favor of flags. This makes sense as we have seen some studs pull out. The Fullriver and US Battery have the dual threaded stud / automotive terminals. Have any of you had similar failures with the threaded studs? Thanks in advance, William William Miller Miller Solar Voice :805-438-5600 email: will...@millersolar.com http://millersolar.com License No. C-10-773985 ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] Sealed L-16 size batteries / battery terminals
Need we mention here that Fullriver batteries are made in China as are so many of the PVs flooding the market these days? Honestly folks, we are killing our own industry. Hark ye back to the words of the Prophet Pogo: We have met the enemy and he is us. Bob-O On Jun 29, 2011, at 10:41 AM, Larry Crutcher, Starlight Solar Power Systems wrote: Hello William, We had a great first year sales with Fullriver. It is still too soon for me to have a proficient opinion on them, but I really like the quality and performance so far. The M8 threaded insert in Fullriver (and Lifeline) have never given us any trouble but you must pay attention to the torque value. Available in 2 and 6 volt. BTW, you can remove the Fullriver brass terminal to lower the height of your connection if needed. The MK are made by Deka so you might check with them for a different terminal config. Terminal torque guide: http://www.fullriver.com/products/admin/upfile/Terminaltorque.pdf Larry Crutcher Starlight Solar Power Systems 11871 S Fortuna Road, #210 Yuma, AZ 85367 la...@starlightsolar.com (928) 342-9103 On Jun 27, 2011, at 3:33 PM, William Miller wrote: Colleagues I need to replace batteries for a customer. They have Trojan L-16 batteries in an infrequently occupied vacation home. Maintenance has been an issue due to the infrequency in which the customer is on site. I think VRLA batteries are indicated. The enclosure is built for L-16 size batteries so it would be ideal to find VRLA batteries the same size. I find that Fullriver and US Battery offer batteries that meet the size specification. Do any of you have experience with these batteries? I notice that Trojan and MK have abandoned the threaded stud connections in favor of flags. This makes sense as we have seen some studs pull out. The Fullriver and US Battery have the dual threaded stud / automotive terminals. Have any of you had similar failures with the threaded studs? Thanks in advance, William William Miller Miller Solar Voice :805-438-5600 email: will...@millersolar.com http://millersolar.com License No. C-10-773985 ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
[RE-wrenches] Why I sell China made batteries
Hey Bob-O, I agree. I primarily promote US made goods. In our retail store we sell Trojan, Crown, Deka, Sun Xtender, Lifeline, Rolls and US Battery...and now, one from China. For over two years RV customers would come in looking for a competitive quote for the Fullriver battery because that is what a major competitor sells. When I would tell them, No, we don't sell the China made batteries but we do have several high quality US made batteries... and they only cost $70 more for EACH BATTERY. BTW, they don't have as good a warranty, I would loose that customer. Not only would I loose the battery sale but they were usually looking for a complete PV solar and inverter package to be installed. $6000 just walked out the door. I did not get the chance to sell any other US made parts and equipment that I choose to stock. The customer went back to XYZ Quartzsite solar store and bought a whole RV load of cheap China crap that will need replacing soon. Also the installation is likely to be a rolling fire hazard. So I did some investigating and found that the Fullriver is one of those rare, very well made, China products. Did I cave in and sell out the USA? Now that you know my position I'll let you decide. Life's a bitch sometimes. Larry Crutcher Starlight Solar Power Systems On Jun 29, 2011, at 11:08 AM, Bob-O Schultze wrote: Need we mention here that Fullriver batteries are made in China as are so many of the PVs flooding the market these days? Honestly folks, we are killing our own industry. Hark ye back to the words of the Prophet Pogo: We have met the enemy and he is us. Bob-O On Jun 29, 2011, at 10:41 AM, Larry Crutcher, Starlight Solar Power Systems wrote: Hello William, We had a great first year sales with Fullriver. It is still too soon for me to have a proficient opinion on them, but I really like the quality and performance so far. The M8 threaded insert in Fullriver (and Lifeline) have never given us any trouble but you must pay attention to the torque value. Available in 2 and 6 volt. BTW, you can remove the Fullriver brass terminal to lower the height of your connection if needed. The MK are made by Deka so you might check with them for a different terminal config. Terminal torque guide: http://www.fullriver.com/products/admin/upfile/Terminaltorque.pdf Larry Crutcher Starlight Solar Power Systems 11871 S Fortuna Road, #210 Yuma, AZ 85367 la...@starlightsolar.com (928) 342-9103 ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
[RE-wrenches] AUTO: Mark Edmunds is currenlty out of the office. (returning 07/04/2011)
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