[RE-wrenches] VFX inverter vertical

2013-09-15 Thread William Miller 
Friends:

 

We have not one, but two jobs coming up in the near future requiring we
mount FW500 base plates 90 degrees rotated from the norm.  In all my years I
have never had to do this and now it is twice.  I am trying to wrap my head
around this.  

 

I hate to have breakers actuate sideways so I hesitate to just rotate the DC
cabinet with the base plate.  I may keep the DC cabinet vertical and punch a
hole in the top to accommodate connections to the inverter.  I want to
ensure that  we have room for an additional inverter so I will try to
position the KO as far to one side as possible to see if another inverter
can fit.

 

We rarely use the Outback AC cabinet any more anyway, so we will just use
the standard QO panel(s) mounted at the top right side up.  They may hang
off of the base plate somewhat, but we deal with that regularly.

 

Anyway, that is my tentative plan.  Anyone else deal with this. Have any
photos?

 

Thanks in advance,

 

William Miller

 

 

 

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Re: [RE-wrenches] Off Grid LP Gen advice

2013-09-15 Thread Ray Walters 

What supplier are folks using for the Ecogen?

R.Ray Walters
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On 9/15/2013 9:19 AM, Dave Palumbo wrote:


Ecogen it is. Thanks everybody.

Dave Plaumbo

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*Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] Off Grid LP Gen advice

Dave,

I have sold 8 Eco-Gens so far and first impressions are great.  I 
wasn't aware of the govt funded research but it makes sense.  I have 
one installed on top of Herrick Mtn doing an average of 4 hours a day 
backing up a transmitter site.  This winter will be the test.  So far 
we have almost 500 hours on it (first oil change coming up) and no 
problems.  This is a remote site with only  snowmobile access in 
winter.  The gen is doing great on fuel economy. About .7 gph at 2300 
watt load.


John Blittersdorf

I

S

Tn



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On Sep 14, 2013, at 8:56 PM, Gary Willett 
mailto:g...@icarussolarservices.com>> 
wrote:


Ditto Chris's comment. The EcoGen was designed by Generac with
research funded by the Propane Council from the ground-up as an
off-grid propane-only generator used to charge batteries.

Regards,  Gary

On 9/14/13 1:44 PM, Chris Mason wrote:

Generac Ecogen is your best choice. It was specifically
designed for the long runs associated with charing batteries
for off-grid work.

On Sat, Sep 14, 2013 at 11:58 AM, Dave Palumbo
mailto:d...@independentpowerllc.com>> wrote:

Wrenchsters,

Looking for a good quality, long lasting, LP gas genset for my
off grid rental house. 6 to 8kW. Full power at 120Vac would be
nice. In the past some have recommended a Coleman off grid
model as I remember. I'm also wondering how the smaller
Kohlers, and the like, have been holding up for off grid use
over the past few years.

This for northern Vermont where even with C/8 PV to battery
charge rate we need to run the generator about 250 hours per
year as the cloud cover is dense for weeks at a time.

Thanks,

Dave Palumbo


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Re: [RE-wrenches] Off Grid LP Gen advice

2013-09-15 Thread jay peltz 
Hi all

FYI. 

But if you live in ca, they don't sell them here according to the website. 

Jay

Peltz power






On Sep 15, 2013, at 9:19 AM, "Dave Palumbo"  
wrote:

> Ecogen it is. Thanks everybody.
>  
> Dave Plaumbo
>  
> From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org 
> [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of John 
> Blittersdorf
> Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2013 7:11 AM
> To: RE-wrenches
> Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Off Grid LP Gen advice
>  
> Dave,
> I have sold 8 Eco-Gens so far and first impressions are great.  I wasn't 
> aware of the govt funded research but it makes sense.  I have one installed 
> on top of Herrick Mtn doing an average of 4 hours a day backing up a 
> transmitter site.  This winter will be the test.  So far we have almost 500 
> hours on it (first oil change coming up) and no problems.  This is a remote 
> site with only  snowmobile access in winter.  The gen is doing great on fuel 
> economy. About .7 gph at 2300 watt load.
>  
> John Blittersdorf 
>  
>  
>  
> I
> S
>  
>  
> Tn
>  
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Sep 14, 2013, at 8:56 PM, Gary Willett  
> wrote:
> 
> Ditto Chris's comment. The EcoGen was designed by Generac with research 
> funded by the Propane Council from the ground-up as an off-grid propane-only 
> generator used to charge batteries.
> 
> Regards,  Gary
> 
> On 9/14/13 1:44 PM, Chris Mason wrote:
> Generac Ecogen is your best choice. It was specifically designed for the long 
> runs associated with charing batteries for off-grid work.
>  
> 
> On Sat, Sep 14, 2013 at 11:58 AM, Dave Palumbo  
> wrote:
> Wrenchsters,
>  
> Looking for a good quality, long lasting, LP gas genset for my off grid 
> rental house. 6 to 8kW. Full power at 120Vac would be nice. In the past some 
> have recommended a Coleman off grid model as I remember. I’m also wondering 
> how the smaller Kohlers, and the like, have been holding up for off grid use 
> over the past few years.
>  
> This for northern Vermont where even with C/8 PV to battery charge rate we 
> need to run the generator about 250 hours per year as the cloud cover is 
> dense for weeks at a time.
>  
> Thanks,
>  
> Dave Palumbo
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Off Grid LP Gen advice

2013-09-15 Thread Dave Palumbo 
Ecogen it is. Thanks everybody.

 

Dave Plaumbo

 

From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org 
[mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of John 
Blittersdorf
Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2013 7:11 AM
To: RE-wrenches
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Off Grid LP Gen advice

 

Dave,

I have sold 8 Eco-Gens so far and first impressions are great.  I wasn't 
aware of the govt funded research but it makes sense.  I have one installed on 
top of Herrick Mtn doing an average of 4 hours a day backing up a transmitter 
site.  This winter will be the test.  So far we have almost 500 hours on it 
(first oil change coming up) and no problems.  This is a remote site with only  
snowmobile access in winter.  The gen is doing great on fuel economy. About .7 
gph at 2300 watt load.

 

John Blittersdorf 

 

 

 

I

S

 

 

Tn

 



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On Sep 14, 2013, at 8:56 PM, Gary Willett  wrote:

Ditto Chris's comment. The EcoGen was designed by Generac with research funded 
by the Propane Council from the ground-up as an off-grid propane-only generator 
used to charge batteries.

Regards,  Gary

On 9/14/13 1:44 PM, Chris Mason wrote:

Generac Ecogen is your best choice. It was specifically designed for the long 
runs associated with charing batteries for off-grid work.

 

On Sat, Sep 14, 2013 at 11:58 AM, Dave Palumbo  
wrote:

Wrenchsters,

 

Looking for a good quality, long lasting, LP gas genset for my off grid rental 
house. 6 to 8kW. Full power at 120Vac would be nice. In the past some have 
recommended a Coleman off grid model as I remember. I’m also wondering how the 
smaller Kohlers, and the like, have been holding up for off grid use over the 
past few years.

 

This for northern Vermont where even with C/8 PV to battery charge rate we need 
to run the generator about 250 hours per year as the cloud cover is dense for 
weeks at a time.

 

Thanks,

 

Dave Palumbo


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Re: [RE-wrenches] Off Grid LP Gen advice

2013-09-15 Thread Allan Sindelar 

  
  
John,
  If I understand correctly what was explained to me by Generac, the
  research wasn't government-funded. The Propane Education and
  Research Council is an industry trade group. I was curious,
  though, so checked into it on its website:
  "PERC was authorized by the U.S. Congress with passage
of the Propane Education and Research Act (PERA), Public Law
104-284, signed into law on October 11, 1996. In a referendum
soon afterward, propane producers and marketers overwhelmingly
approved its formation." 

and: "PERC’s operations and activities are funded by an
assessment levied on each gallon of propane gas at the point it
is odorized or imported into the United States. The assessment,
authorized under PERA, is now four-tenths of a cent per gallon."
  I also found a fact sheet on the development of this generator
at http://www.propanecouncil.org/WorkArea/DownloadAsset.aspx?id=3827.

  
  






  
  
  








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  On 9/15/2013 5:10 AM, John Blittersdorf wrote:


  Dave,
      I have sold 8 Eco-Gens so far and first impressions are
great.  I wasn't aware of the govt funded research but it makes
sense.  I have one installed on top of Herrick Mtn doing an
average of 4 hours a day backing up a transmitter site.  This
winter will be the test.  So far we have almost 500 hours on it
(first oil change coming up) and no problems.  This is a remote
site with only  snowmobile access in winter.  The gen is doing
great on fuel economy. About .7 gph at 2300 watt load.
  
  
  John Blittersdorf 

  

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Re: [RE-wrenches] Off Grid LP Gen advice

2013-09-15 Thread John Blittersdorf 
Dave,
I have sold 8 Eco-Gens so far and first impressions are great.  I wasn't 
aware of the govt funded research but it makes sense.  I have one installed on 
top of Herrick Mtn doing an average of 4 hours a day backing up a transmitter 
site.  This winter will be the test.  So far we have almost 500 hours on it 
(first oil change coming up) and no problems.  This is a remote site with only  
snowmobile access in winter.  The gen is doing great on fuel economy. About .7 
gph at 2300 watt load.

John Blittersdorf 



I
S


Tn



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On Sep 14, 2013, at 8:56 PM, Gary Willett  wrote:

> Ditto Chris's comment. The EcoGen was designed by Generac with research 
> funded by the Propane Council from the ground-up as an off-grid propane-only 
> generator used to charge batteries.
> 
> Regards,  Gary
> 
> On 9/14/13 1:44 PM, Chris Mason wrote:
>> Generac Ecogen is your best choice. It was specifically designed for the 
>> long runs associated with charing batteries for off-grid work.
>> 
>> 
>> On Sat, Sep 14, 2013 at 11:58 AM, Dave Palumbo 
>>  wrote:
>> Wrenchsters,
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Looking for a good quality, long lasting, LP gas genset for my off grid 
>> rental house. 6 to 8kW. Full power at 120Vac would be nice. In the past some 
>> have recommended a Coleman off grid model as I remember. I’m also wondering 
>> how the smaller Kohlers, and the like, have been holding up for off grid use 
>> over the past few years.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> This for northern Vermont where even with C/8 PV to battery charge rate we 
>> need to run the generator about 250 hours per year as the cloud cover is 
>> dense for weeks at a time.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Dave Palumbo
>> 
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