Re: [RE-wrenches] Rooftop disconnect for multi tracker TLs

[Dave Tedeyan]

Solar BOS makes some good disconnects.  4 pole disconnect: F2SK32-1-4XP.
Less Expensive than Midnite Solar, but you have to buy directly from Solar
BOS and the lead times can be longer.

Cheers,
Dave


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On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 12:44 PM, William Miller 
wrote:

> August:
>
> Have you tried Sun Volt?  We installed one of their switches and it worked
> out Ok. This will add 250 to 550 dollars to your job, of course.
>
> William
>
> On Jan 22, 2016, at 8:00 AM, August Goers  wrote:
>
> Wrenches,
>
>
>
> We have a few jurisdictions in the Bay Area that still require rooftop DC
> disconnects. We are installing a lot of SMA TL-22 inverters with dual MPPTs
> and if the system has more than 1 string it has been hard to source a good
> disconnect option (need 4 poles for switching two ungrounded strings). Does
> anyone have a good DC disconnect idea for this application?
>
>
>
> Best,
>
>
>
> August
>
> Luminalt
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Re: [RE-wrenches] fire extinguishers

[Dan Fink]

Hi Luke; a Sam's Club size box of baking soda for lead-acid battery banks,
or a couple gallons of vinegar for NiFe cells. And lots of homeowner
education especially about PPE.



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On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 9:34 AM, Luke Christy 
wrote:

>
> Dan,
> What products are you using for electrolyte neutralizers?
>
>
> -Luke
>
>
> On Jan 14, 2016, at 13:13, Dan Fink  wrote:
>
> In my PV/battery training sessions for fire departments, we recommend CO2
> extinguishers. Fire departments almost always have at least one; they don't
> usually carry halon. I leave acid/alkaline electrolyte neutralizer with
> each battery installation and then just recommend to the homeowner a fire
> extinguisher and eye wash station.
>
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Re: [RE-wrenches] LiFePO4; WAS Availability of Powerwall Batteries

[Allan Sindelar]

  
  
Wrenches,
A longtime off grid friend of mine, with whom both I and Positive
Energy have collaborated on difficult installations over the years,
just purchased a 24V 230AH, 120 lb. LiFePO4 (Lithium Iron
Phosphate) battery bank that is locally manufactured in Albuquerque.
It's still too small and too expensive to run his entire home, so he
has devised a battery switching system and is keeping his older FLAs
in operation while he tests these and affords more strings. So far
he's quite pleased with the performance, but there's not yet a track
record for his set.

So I want to pass on this low-key manufacturer: Chuck McCune, McCune
Industries, http://www.mccunesolarworks.com, (866) 622-8630. I
believe that a legal Non-Disclosure Agreement is necessary to get
the real info.

Contact me off list if you'd like to speak with my friend with the
new set. I believe that he has set up as a regional dealer. 
Allan


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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  al...@sindelarsolar.com
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Installation Professional
NABCEP Certified Technical Sales Professional
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On 1/22/2016 9:26 AM, August Goers
  wrote:


  
  
  
  
I’m chiming in
a bit late on this one.
 
Solaredge is
compatible with SunPower. See the P400:
 
http://www.solaredge.us/groups/us/powerbox/module-add-on
 
Solarege has
been very popular in the Bay Area among SunPower and
non-SunPower dealers.
 
I’ve attended a
Tesla Powerwall training and the product is coming but it
will probably be a slow and limited rollout (just my gut
based on what I saw). The 400 volt battery output in
particular will be the most revolutionary part of the
product in my opinion. The Storedge product is their 1st
gen battery product (I believe) so only time will tell how
it works:
 
http://www.solaredge.us/groups/us/products/storedge
 
I’m not
convinced that any of the other lithium products are ready
for prime time. They are expensive and I don’t personally
want to spend the time or money to experiment with them at
this point. That said, we recently commissioned our first
dual Schneider XW+ system with AGMs and besides a few
hiccups, it looks like a very customizable and clean
package. I agree that storage is the future and certainly
the reduced size and increased cycling ability of lithiums
make them very appealing.
 
Cheers,
 
August
Luminalt
 
 

  
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On Behalf Of Peter Parrish
Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2016 11:07 AM
To: 'RE-wrenches'
Cc: peter.parr...@solargnosis.com
Subject: [RE-wrenches] Availability of Powerwall
Batteries
  

 
I
have a residential client who wants a grid tied PV system
with battery backup. The client wants everything to be top
of the line: Sunpower modules. Tesla Powerwall batteries. 
 
Unfortunately,
I have been spending time recently researching "smart energy
storage" for commercial applications focusing on peak demand
shaving. These are 480 V 3-phase systems with 30 kW
inverters and 48+ kWh Lithium technology batteries. I think
I am beginning to understand the performance trade-offs and
how these systems can complement PV to reduce demand charges
as well as usage charges.
 
My
problem, is that I have not spent as much time researching
the newer residential GTBB offerings. I have studied the
Juicebox offering – Schneider XW5548 plus NMC Lithium
batteries -- but that’s about it. I don’t know the default
vendor for the NMC batteries and if not Powerwall, could
Powerwall be a replacement? 
 
Otherwise,
does anyone know how to access the Powerwall offerings? 
Also has anyone had success getting a rebate in CA through
the SGIP/AES program? I know to qualify for SGIP one needs
to demonstrate load shifting as opposed 

Re: [RE-wrenches] SWRC50

[Luke Christy]

Jeremy,
 I might. Are you talking about the one that is basically an old-school 
parallel printer cable?
If so, contact me off list. I'm pretty sure I have a used one.
-Luke

On Jan 22, 2016, at 10:50 AM, Jeremy Rodriguez  wrote:

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> Hello wrenches,
> Does anyone have a new or used SW Series remote control cable ?
> 
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Re: [RE-wrenches] SWRC50

[Kevin Pegg]

Yes, have a few in stock.

From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf 
Of Jeremy Rodriguez
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Subject: [RE-wrenches] SWRC50


Hello wrenches,
Does anyone have a new or used SW Series remote control cable ?

Jeremy Rodriguez
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Rooftop disconnect for multi tracker TLs

[William Miller]

August:

Have you tried Sun Volt?  We installed one of their switches and it worked out 
Ok. This will add 250 to 550 dollars to your job, of course. 

William

> On Jan 22, 2016, at 8:00 AM, August Goers  wrote:
> 
> Wrenches,
>  
> We have a few jurisdictions in the Bay Area that still require rooftop DC 
> disconnects. We are installing a lot of SMA TL-22 inverters with dual MPPTs 
> and if the system has more than 1 string it has been hard to source a good 
> disconnect option (need 4 poles for switching two ungrounded strings). Does 
> anyone have a good DC disconnect idea for this application?
>  
> Best,
>  
> August
> Luminalt
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Rooftop disconnect for multi tracker TLs

[Glenn Burt]

Midnight solar.

-Original Message-
From: "August Goers" 
Sent: ‎1/‎22/‎2016 11:00
To: "RE-wrenches" 
Subject: [RE-wrenches]  Rooftop disconnect for multi tracker TLs

Wrenches,



We have a few jurisdictions in the Bay Area that still require rooftop DC
disconnects. We are installing a lot of SMA TL-22 inverters with dual MPPTs
and if the system has more than 1 string it has been hard to source a good
disconnect option (need 4 poles for switching two ungrounded strings). Does
anyone have a good DC disconnect idea for this application?



Best,



August

Luminalt
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Solarworld

[Jay]

Hi guys. 

Look not all of us are getting these emails. 

So please share what's going on ok

And my opinion is that if these are published emails with prices you can share 
them, especially if you think they are bogus parts. 

Jay

Peltz power 


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> On Jan 21, 2016, at 5:33 PM, drake.chamber...@redwoodalliance.org wrote:
> 
> Can they really get away with selling fake Solarworld modules? Is there no
> way to verify there manufacturer? It would seem that Solarworld would want
> to bust a company selling modules labeled with there name that weren't
> theirs.
> 
> If they are old stock at cheap prices, they might be good for some
> systems. If they are fake, then there would be no warranty and could
> likely have other issues.
> 
> Has anyone actually seen knock off modules or seen reliable information
> that documents their existence?
> 
>> What I've seen lately in my Spam box, advertised at the usual ridiculous
>> price, is for low wattage Solarworld modules.  We currently are
>> installing 285 and 290 watt models, and what was being offered were 260
>> and under.  Either they're knock offs, or someone is moving some really
>> old stock.
>> This would be a clever way for Chinese manufacturing to circumvent the
>> tariff I suppose.
>> 
>> R.Ray Walters
>> CTO, Solarray, Inc
>> Nabcep Certified PV Installer,
>> Licensed Master Electrician
>> Solar Design Engineer
>> 303 505-8760
>> 
>>> On 1/21/2016 8:46 AM, drake.chamber...@redwoodalliance.org wrote:
>>> So far I have purchased mostly from known distributors, so haven't
>>> encountered the cheap knockoff issue. Is this happening much? What is
>>> the
>>> evidence that this is gong on?
>>> 
>>> I've seen ads claiming SolarWorld modules at over $0.30 / Watt cheaper
>>> than the REC modules which I get good pricing on. I don't know the
>>> companies. For all I know, they could be counterfeit. They have
>>> definitely
>>> been advertised as cheap at times as the very lowest end of the Chinese
>>> imports. When something seems too good to be true, it usually isn't.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Drake
>>> 
>>> Good morning,
 Are they one of the ones that are being put out as knockoffs ?
 You know what I mean, cheap counterfeit make everything look good, make
 the label look exceptional grab the money and run panels ?
 
 I certainly hope not, I have had exceptionally good luck with solar
 World
 and their predecessors!
 
 Later,
 Bob
 
> On Jan 20, 2016, at 7:59 PM, AE Solar 
> wrote:
> 
> What's your definition of cheap...and for which size panels?
> 
>> On Wednesday, January 20, 2016, Jerry Shafer
>> 
>> wrote:
>> I deal with Platt as there are very close to the SW factory
>> Jerry
>> 
>>> On Jan 20, 2016 1:58 PM, "Drake"
>>>  wrote:
>>> A lot of ads for cheap Solarworld modules come into my inbox. Does
>>> anyone know why they are so cheap? Does anyone have a trusted
>>> distributor for bargain Solarworld modules?
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Drake
>>> 
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Re: [RE-wrenches] LiFePO4; WAS Availability of Powerwall Batteries

[Starlight Solar Power Systems]

Hi Allan,

I would like to challenge the use of the term "locally manufactured". Mccune 
Solar Works does not manufacture lithium batteries. They purchase battery cells 
from China and package other third party components like EMS and relays to make 
a lithium battery  system. Very similar to what we do except our LFMP battery 
package EMS and CPU is designed by the manufacturer exclusively for GBS 
batteries. Perhaps a better term would be LFP battery dealer or integrator.

Larry Crutcher
Starlight Solar Power Systems


On Jan 22, 2016, at 12:30 PM, Allan Sindelar  wrote:

Wrenches,
A longtime off grid friend of mine, with whom both I and Positive Energy have 
collaborated on difficult installations over the years, just purchased a 24V 
230AH, 120 lb. LiFePO4 (Lithium Iron Phosphate) battery bank that is locally 
manufactured in Albuquerque. It's still too small and too expensive to run his 
entire home, so he has devised a battery switching system and is keeping his 
older FLAs in operation while he tests these and affords more strings. So far 
he's quite pleased with the performance, but there's not yet a track record for 
his set.

So I want to pass on this low-key manufacturer: Chuck McCune, McCune 
Industries, http://www.mccunesolarworks.com , 
(866) 622-8630. I believe that a legal Non-Disclosure Agreement is necessary to 
get the real info.

Contact me off list if you'd like to speak with my friend with the new set. I 
believe that he has set up as a regional dealer. 
Allan

Allan Sindelar
 al...@sindelarsolar.com 

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NABCEP Certified Technical Sales Professional
New Mexico EE98J Journeyman Electrician
Founder (Retired), Positive Energy, Inc.
505 780-2738 cell

 

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Re: [RE-wrenches] LiFePO4; WAS Availability of Powerwall Batteries

[August Goers]

Larry,



To get back to your previous response to me – I’m fully onboard with the
benefits of lithium batteries. For now, they seem like the clear successor
to lead acid technology. However, I’m still concerned about the ability of
these smaller “integrators” to assemble cells and electronics together and
make a robust package. There may very well be good ones out there, I just
don’t know. Tesla’s product is still brand new and who knows how that is
going to go.



Best,



August



*From:* RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] *On
Behalf Of *Starlight Solar Power Systems
*Sent:* Friday, January 22, 2016 2:46 PM
*To:* RE-wrenches
*Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] LiFePO4; WAS Availability of Powerwall
Batteries



Hi Allan,



I would like to challenge the use of the term "locally manufactured".
Mccune Solar Works does not manufacture lithium batteries. They purchase
battery cells from China and package other third party components like EMS
and relays to make a lithium battery  system. Very similar to what we do
except our LFMP battery package EMS and CPU is designed by the manufacturer
exclusively for GBS batteries. Perhaps a better term would be LFP battery
dealer or integrator.



Larry Crutcher
Starlight Solar Power Systems





On Jan 22, 2016, at 12:30 PM, Allan Sindelar 
wrote:



Wrenches,
A longtime off grid friend of mine, with whom both I and Positive Energy
have collaborated on difficult installations over the years, just purchased
a 24V 230AH, 120 lb. LiFePO4 (Lithium Iron Phosphate) battery bank that is
locally manufactured in Albuquerque. It's still too small and too expensive
to run his entire home, so he has devised a battery switching system and is
keeping his older FLAs in operation while he tests these and affords more
strings. So far he's quite pleased with the performance, but there's not
yet a track record for his set.

So I want to pass on this low-key manufacturer: Chuck McCune, McCune
Industries, http://www.mccunesolarworks.com, (866) 622-8630. I believe that
a legal Non-Disclosure Agreement is necessary to get the real info.

Contact me off list if you'd like to speak with my friend with the new set.
I believe that he has set up as a regional dealer.
Allan

*Allan Sindelar*
al...@sindelarsolar.com
NABCEP Certified PV Installation Professional
NABCEP Certified Technical Sales Professional
New Mexico EE98J Journeyman Electrician
Founder (Retired), Positive Energy, Inc.
*505 780-2738 cell*
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Re: [RE-wrenches] SWRC50

[Jeremy Rodriguez]

Definitely need the 50ft version.
Thanks

Jeremy Rodriguez
Solar Installation And Design Expert
All Solar, Inc.
1463 M St
Penrose Colorado 81240

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On Jan 22, 2016, at 11:23 AM, Howie Michaelson 
> wrote:

If Luke doesn't have one - I may.
Howie

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On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 12:59 PM, Luke Christy 
> wrote:
Jeremy,
 I might. Are you talking about the one that is basically an old-school 
parallel printer cable?
If so, contact me off list. I'm pretty sure I have a used one.
-Luke

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> Does anyone have a new or used SW Series remote control cable ?
>
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[RE-wrenches] Rooftop disconnect for multi tracker TLs

[August Goers]

Wrenches,



We have a few jurisdictions in the Bay Area that still require rooftop DC
disconnects. We are installing a lot of SMA TL-22 inverters with dual MPPTs
and if the system has more than 1 string it has been hard to source a good
disconnect option (need 4 poles for switching two ungrounded strings). Does
anyone have a good DC disconnect idea for this application?



Best,



August

Luminalt
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Availability of Powerwall Batteries

[Starlight Solar Power Systems]

August,

There are applications where Lithium batteries are far more cost effective than 
lead batteries. We have off grid customers in Mexico using our LFMP battery 
systems. Because these are seasonal homes that are left for 6-8 months, there 
is no maintenance for many months. Every 2-3 years they ruin lead acid banks. 
For this application, LFMP batteries are ideal. Just turn the battery off and 
walk away. Come back in 8 months and it is right where you left it less about 
1-2AH (EMS boards draw small current). Plus there is an advantage of less 
capacity degradation due to high summer temperatures. 

The same thing applies for our RV customers that only use them for a few months 
each year.

Larry Crutcher
Starlight Solar Power Systems




On Jan 22, 2016, at 9:26 AM, August Goers  wrote:

...I’m not convinced that any of the other lithium products are ready for prime 
time. They are expensive and I don’t personally want to spend the time or money 
to experiment with them at this point…

Cheers,
 
August
Luminalt

 
From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org 
] On Behalf Of Peter Parrish
Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2016 11:07 AM
To: 'RE-wrenches'
Cc: peter.parr...@solargnosis.com 
Subject: [RE-wrenches] Availability of Powerwall Batteries
 
I have a residential client who wants a grid tied PV system with battery 
backup. The client wants everything to be top of the line: Sunpower modules. 
Tesla Powerwall batteries.
 
Unfortunately, I have been spending time recently researching "smart energy 
storage" for commercial applications focusing on peak demand shaving. These are 
480 V 3-phase systems with 30 kW inverters and 48+ kWh Lithium technology 
batteries. I think I am beginning to understand the performance trade-offs and 
how these systems can complement PV to reduce demand charges as well as usage 
charges.
 
My problem, is that I have not spent as much time researching the newer 
residential GTBB offerings. I have studied the Juicebox offering – Schneider 
XW5548 plus NMC Lithium batteries -- but that’s about it. I don’t know the 
default vendor for the NMC batteries and if not Powerwall, could Powerwall be a 
replacement?
 
Otherwise, does anyone know how to access the Powerwall offerings?  Also has 
anyone had success getting a rebate in CA through the SGIP/AES program? I know 
to qualify for SGIP one needs to demonstrate load shifting as opposed to (or in 
addition to BB).   
 
There seems to be an offering from Solaredge (Storedge), but it is not clear 
their optimizers work with the 96 cell Sunpower X21-345, for example.
 
I am convinced that smart storage will become more important over time, and I 
would like to use this customer to “get smart”, and prepare for future business 
of this sort.
 
Any practical knowledge would be greatly appreciated. I am happy to exchange 
information on commercial demand management offerings.
 
-  Peter
 
Peter T. Parrish, Ph.D.
President, SolarGnosis
1107 Fair Oaks Ave., Ste. 351
South Pasadena, CA 91030
(323) 839-6108
NABCEP Certified PV Installation Professional #031806-26
peter.parr...@solargnosis.com 
 


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Re: [RE-wrenches] Solarworld

[Tom Duffy]

Hi All

Solarworld themselves have offered us low pricing on containers of 250 or 260 
German manufactured modules, but no pricing like 30 cents a watt.

Kind regards

Tom Duffy
Senior Solar Design Engineer

E-Mail: t...@thesolar.biz
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-Original Message-
From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf 
Of Jay
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2016 9:01 PM
To: RE-wrenches 
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Solarworld

Hi guys. 

Look not all of us are getting these emails. 

So please share what's going on ok

And my opinion is that if these are published emails with prices you can share 
them, especially if you think they are bogus parts. 

Jay

Peltz power 


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> On Jan 21, 2016, at 5:33 PM, drake.chamber...@redwoodalliance.org wrote:
> 
> Can they really get away with selling fake Solarworld modules? Is 
> there no way to verify there manufacturer? It would seem that 
> Solarworld would want to bust a company selling modules labeled with 
> there name that weren't theirs.
> 
> If they are old stock at cheap prices, they might be good for some 
> systems. If they are fake, then there would be no warranty and could 
> likely have other issues.
> 
> Has anyone actually seen knock off modules or seen reliable 
> information that documents their existence?
> 
>> What I've seen lately in my Spam box, advertised at the usual 
>> ridiculous price, is for low wattage Solarworld modules.  We 
>> currently are installing 285 and 290 watt models, and what was being 
>> offered were 260 and under.  Either they're knock offs, or someone is 
>> moving some really old stock.
>> This would be a clever way for Chinese manufacturing to circumvent 
>> the tariff I suppose.
>> 
>> R.Ray Walters
>> CTO, Solarray, Inc
>> Nabcep Certified PV Installer,
>> Licensed Master Electrician
>> Solar Design Engineer
>> 303 505-8760
>> 
>>> On 1/21/2016 8:46 AM, drake.chamber...@redwoodalliance.org wrote:
>>> So far I have purchased mostly from known distributors, so haven't 
>>> encountered the cheap knockoff issue. Is this happening much? What 
>>> is the evidence that this is gong on?
>>> 
>>> I've seen ads claiming SolarWorld modules at over $0.30 / Watt 
>>> cheaper than the REC modules which I get good pricing on. I don't 
>>> know the companies. For all I know, they could be counterfeit. They 
>>> have definitely been advertised as cheap at times as the very lowest 
>>> end of the Chinese imports. When something seems too good to be 
>>> true, it usually isn't.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Drake
>>> 
>>> Good morning,
 Are they one of the ones that are being put out as knockoffs ?
 You know what I mean, cheap counterfeit make everything look good, 
 make the label look exceptional grab the money and run panels ?
 
 I certainly hope not, I have had exceptionally good luck with solar 
 World and their predecessors!
 
 Later,
 Bob
 
> On Jan 20, 2016, at 7:59 PM, AE Solar 
> 
> wrote:
> 
> What's your definition of cheap...and for which size panels?
> 
>> On Wednesday, January 20, 2016, Jerry Shafer 
>> 
>> wrote:
>> I deal with Platt as there are very close to the SW factory Jerry
>> 
>>> On Jan 20, 2016 1:58 PM, "Drake"
>>>  wrote:
>>> A lot of ads for cheap Solarworld modules come into my inbox. 
>>> Does anyone know why they are so cheap? Does anyone have a 
>>> trusted distributor for bargain Solarworld modules?
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Drake
>>> 
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[RE-wrenches] SWRC50

[Jeremy Rodriguez]

Hello wrenches,
Does anyone have a new or used SW Series remote control cable ?

Jeremy Rodriguez
All Solar
Penrose CO
allso...@live.com
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