[RE-wrenches] No more Enphase

2017-07-14 Thread Chris Daum 
Fellow Wrenches:
 
To make a long story short, we are done with Enphase.  They've refused to
reimburse us for labor after replacing a faulty inverter.  So, what
micro-inverters are you using successfully, and how is the tech support
behind it?
 
Feel free to contact me offlist.
 
Best,
 
Chris Daum
Oasis Montana Inc.
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Re: [RE-wrenches] No more Enphase

2017-07-14 Thread Chris Schaefer 
Chris,

Took me a while to jump but this season we went to AP systems. About 33%
less $ plus its two modules per inverter, thus cuts down the install labor
and time. The only issue is a base 10 year warranty. Can pay for 20. I'm
hoping enough of us installers complain and they'll bump it up to 25 to
match the modules.

Christopher

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On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 10:48 AM, Chris Daum  wrote:

> Fellow Wrenches:
>
> To make a long story short, we are done with Enphase.  They've refused to
> reimburse us for labor after replacing a faulty inverter.  So, what
> micro-inverters are you using successfully, and how is the tech support
> behind it?
>
> Feel free to contact me offlist.
>
> Best,
>
>
> Chris Daum
> Oasis Montana Inc.
> 406-777-4309 <(406)%20777-4309> or 4321
> 406-777-4309 fax
> www.oasismontana.com
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[RE-wrenches] Emphase and Warranties and Contractor Liability

2017-07-14 Thread Tom Lane 
All companies on the stock market exchange MUST live up to their written
warranties AND it is illegal for a contractor to give a longer or better
warranty on THE manufacturers product Than the manufacturer gives . Also in
many states you and the  distributor or whoever is left must replace the
product IF the manufacturer goes belly up . Case in point the Chinese Sheet
Rock fiasco. Noe Especially if you KNOW s company is in financial trouble
AND sell their product, you can be liable because you are " in the swim "
as an expert in your field and SHOULD know . That is why I advise
contractors to use products like LG , Panasonic, Hyundai , etc that have
more than one iron in the fire . Unfortunately some contractors in Florida
are selling Suniva , old Sun Edison after they went kaput. Which is illegal
since they have no warranty and a few were caught and had to take them down
and then skeddale from a mad 😡 homeowner who of course wanted his money
back and would not pay the final . It is tough being a contractor but when
you are selling HIGH dollar contracts the owner will no doubt look for
legal beagles or lawyer sharks 🦈 who love high dollar recoveries . Just be
cautious in today's world . GatorTom
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Re: [RE-wrenches] No more Enphase

2017-07-14 Thread Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar 

 I see LG is offering panels with their own micro-inverter. I bet they
have an excellent product warranty. I have been testing their RESU-10
home energy battery for a year now and it is rock solid. Built to last!
--Dave



> Chris,
>
> Took me a while to jump but this season we went to AP systems. About 33%
> less $ plus its two modules per inverter, thus cuts down the install labor
> and time. The only issue is a base 10 year warranty. Can pay for 20. I'm
> hoping enough of us installers complain and they'll bump it up to 25 to
> match the modules.
>
> Christopher
>
> Chris Schaefer’s
> 
>
> *Tel/Fax 585-229-2083 or Cell 585-748-1870 *
> *5115 South Hill Road ~ Canandaigua New York 14424**www.solarandwindfx.com
>  ~ E-mail: ch...@solarandwindfx.com
> *
>
>
> Thomas Jefferson, the author of our great Constitution, once said,
> "democracy" will cease to exist when you take away from those who are
> willing to work and give to those who would not."
>
> On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 10:48 AM, Chris Daum 
> wrote:
>
>> Fellow Wrenches:
>>
>> To make a long story short, we are done with Enphase.  They've refused
>> to
>> reimburse us for labor after replacing a faulty inverter.  So, what
>> micro-inverters are you using successfully, and how is the tech support
>> behind it?
>>
>> Feel free to contact me offlist.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>>
>> Chris Daum
>> Oasis Montana Inc.
>> 406-777-4309 <(406)%20777-4309> or 4321
>> 406-777-4309 fax
>> www.oasismontana.com
>>
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Re: [RE-wrenches] No more Enphase

2017-07-14 Thread Marco Mangelsdorf 
Any experience yet with the RESU10H, Dave?

marco

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From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf 
Of Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar
Sent: Friday, July 14, 2017 11:34 AM
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Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] No more Enphase


 I see LG is offering panels with their own micro-inverter. I bet they have an 
excellent product warranty. I have been testing their RESU-10 home energy 
battery for a year now and it is rock solid. Built to last!
--Dave



> Chris,
>
> Took me a while to jump but this season we went to AP systems. About 
> 33% less $ plus its two modules per inverter, thus cuts down the 
> install labor and time. The only issue is a base 10 year warranty. Can 
> pay for 20. I'm hoping enough of us installers complain and they'll 
> bump it up to 25 to match the modules.
>
> Christopher
>
> Chris Schaefer’s
> 
>
> *Tel/Fax 585-229-2083 or Cell 585-748-1870 *
> *5115 South Hill Road ~ Canandaigua New York 
> 14424**www.solarandwindfx.com  ~ 
> E-mail: ch...@solarandwindfx.com
> *
>
>
> Thomas Jefferson, the author of our great Constitution, once said, 
> "democracy" will cease to exist when you take away from those who are 
> willing to work and give to those who would not."
>
> On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 10:48 AM, Chris Daum 
> wrote:
>
>> Fellow Wrenches:
>>
>> To make a long story short, we are done with Enphase.  They've 
>> refused to reimburse us for labor after replacing a faulty inverter.  
>> So, what micro-inverters are you using successfully, and how is the 
>> tech support behind it?
>>
>> Feel free to contact me offlist.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>>
>> Chris Daum
>> Oasis Montana Inc.
>> 406-777-4309 <(406)%20777-4309> or 4321
>> 406-777-4309 fax
>> www.oasismontana.com
>>
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Re: [RE-wrenches] No more Enphase

2017-07-14 Thread Jerry Shafer 
Wrenches
I agree that enphase is not really playing fair but how many micro inverter
manufactures have failed and are no longer even around. Ive been there when
its all out of pocket and l know some of you have too and you have to fix
it all and its all on you. l have megs of enphase both in California and
Hawaii so jumping ship for another brand is to late even if l wanted to. Im
all in with enphase and hope there RMA issues get better.
Remember the grass is NOT always greener.
Jerry

On Jul 14, 2017 12:15 PM, "Marco Mangelsdorf"  wrote:

> Any experience yet with the RESU10H, Dave?
>
> marco
>
> -Original Message-
> From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On
> Behalf Of Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar
> Sent: Friday, July 14, 2017 11:34 AM
> To: RE-wrenches
> Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] No more Enphase
>
>
>  I see LG is offering panels with their own micro-inverter. I bet they
> have an excellent product warranty. I have been testing their RESU-10 home
> energy battery for a year now and it is rock solid. Built to last!
> --Dave
>
>
>
> > Chris,
> >
> > Took me a while to jump but this season we went to AP systems. About
> > 33% less $ plus its two modules per inverter, thus cuts down the
> > install labor and time. The only issue is a base 10 year warranty. Can
> > pay for 20. I'm hoping enough of us installers complain and they'll
> > bump it up to 25 to match the modules.
> >
> > Christopher
> >
> > Chris Schaefer’s
> > 
> >
> > *Tel/Fax 585-229-2083 or Cell 585-748-1870 *
> > *5115 South Hill Road ~ Canandaigua New York
> > 14424**www.solarandwindfx.com  ~
> > E-mail: ch...@solarandwindfx.com
> > *
> >
> >
> > Thomas Jefferson, the author of our great Constitution, once said,
> > "democracy" will cease to exist when you take away from those who are
> > willing to work and give to those who would not."
> >
> > On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 10:48 AM, Chris Daum 
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Fellow Wrenches:
> >>
> >> To make a long story short, we are done with Enphase.  They've
> >> refused to reimburse us for labor after replacing a faulty inverter.
> >> So, what micro-inverters are you using successfully, and how is the
> >> tech support behind it?
> >>
> >> Feel free to contact me offlist.
> >>
> >> Best,
> >>
> >>
> >> Chris Daum
> >> Oasis Montana Inc.
> >> 406-777-4309 <(406)%20777-4309> or 4321
> >> 406-777-4309 fax
> >> www.oasismontana.com
> >>
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Re: [RE-wrenches] No more Enphase

2017-07-14 Thread wes kennedy 
This is why string inverters continue to be the most future proof design 
strategy. Yes micro's eliminate design complexity (so what), and offer more 
granular monitoring, but at what cost? I prefer to sleep at night. 
-Wes Kennedy 303-653-3073


On Friday, July 14, 2017, 4:27:02 PM MDT, Jerry Shafer 
 wrote:

WrenchesI agree that enphase is not really playing fair but how many micro 
inverter manufactures have failed and are no longer even around. Ive been there 
when its all out of pocket and l know some of you have too and you have to fix 
it all and its all on you. l have megs of enphase both in California and Hawaii 
so jumping ship for another brand is to late even if l wanted to. Im all in 
with enphase and hope there RMA issues get better.Remember the grass is NOT 
always greener.Jerry
On Jul 14, 2017 12:15 PM, "Marco Mangelsdorf"  wrote:

Any experience yet with the RESU10H, Dave?

marco

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Of Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar
Sent: Friday, July 14, 2017 11:34 AM
To: RE-wrenches
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] No more Enphase


 I see LG is offering panels with their own micro-inverter. I bet they have an 
excellent product warranty. I have been testing their RESU-10 home energy 
battery for a year now and it is rock solid. Built to last!
--Dave



> Chris,
>
> Took me a while to jump but this season we went to AP systems. About
> 33% less $ plus its two modules per inverter, thus cuts down the
> install labor and time. The only issue is a base 10 year warranty. Can
> pay for 20. I'm hoping enough of us installers complain and they'll
> bump it up to 25 to match the modules.
>
> Christopher
>
> Chris Schaefer’s
> 
>
> *Tel/Fax 585-229-2083 or Cell 585-748-1870 *
> *5115 South Hill Road ~ Canandaigua New York
> 14424**www.solarandwindfx.com  ~
> E-mail: ch...@solarandwindfx.com
> *
>
>
> Thomas Jefferson, the author of our great Constitution, once said,
> "democracy" will cease to exist when you take away from those who are
> willing to work and give to those who would not."
>
> On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 10:48 AM, Chris Daum 
> wrote:
>
>> Fellow Wrenches:
>>
>> To make a long story short, we are done with Enphase.  They've
>> refused to reimburse us for labor after replacing a faulty inverter.
>> So, what micro-inverters are you using successfully, and how is the
>> tech support behind it?
>>
>> Feel free to contact me offlist.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>>
>> Chris Daum
>> Oasis Montana Inc.
>> 406-777-4309 <(406)%20777-4309> or 4321
>> 406-777-4309 fax
>> www.oasismontana.com
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Re: [RE-wrenches] No more Enphase

2017-07-14 Thread Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar 
Definitely agree! And for Offgrid why use the roof for anything other than
being a roof. Been there for 25 years now. Electronics on a roof is just a
choice that I understand, but don't care for!  --Dave

> This is why string inverters continue to be the most future proof design
> strategy. Yes micro's eliminate design complexity (so what), and offer
> more granular monitoring, but at what cost? I prefer to sleep at night. 
> -Wes Kennedy 303-653-3073
>
>
> On Friday, July 14, 2017, 4:27:02 PM MDT, Jerry Shafer
>  wrote:
>
> WrenchesI agree that enphase is not really playing fair but how many micro
> inverter manufactures have failed and are no longer even around. Ive been
> there when its all out of pocket and l know some of you have too and you
> have to fix it all and its all on you. l have megs of enphase both in
> California and Hawaii so jumping ship for another brand is to late even if
> l wanted to. Im all in with enphase and hope there RMA issues get
> better.Remember the grass is NOT always greener.Jerry
> On Jul 14, 2017 12:15 PM, "Marco Mangelsdorf"  wrote:
>
> Any experience yet with the RESU10H, Dave?
>
> marco
>
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> From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-bounces@ lists.re-wrenches.org] On
> Behalf Of Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar
> Sent: Friday, July 14, 2017 11:34 AM
> To: RE-wrenches
> Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] No more Enphase
>
>
>  I see LG is offering panels with their own micro-inverter. I bet they
> have an excellent product warranty. I have been testing their RESU-10 home
> energy battery for a year now and it is rock solid. Built to last!
> --Dave
>
>
>
>> Chris,
>>
>> Took me a while to jump but this season we went to AP systems. About
>> 33% less $ plus its two modules per inverter, thus cuts down the
>> install labor and time. The only issue is a base 10 year warranty. Can
>> pay for 20. I'm hoping enough of us installers complain and they'll
>> bump it up to 25 to match the modules.
>>
>> Christopher
>>
>> Chris Schaefer’s
>> 
>>
>> *Tel/Fax 585-229-2083 or Cell 585-748-1870 *
>> *5115 South Hill Road ~ Canandaigua New York
>> 14424**www.solarandwindfx.com  ~
>> E-mail: ch...@solarandwindfx.com
>> *
>>
>>
>> Thomas Jefferson, the author of our great Constitution, once said,
>> "democracy" will cease to exist when you take away from those who are
>> willing to work and give to those who would not."
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 10:48 AM, Chris Daum 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Fellow Wrenches:
>>>
>>> To make a long story short, we are done with Enphase.  They've
>>> refused to reimburse us for labor after replacing a faulty inverter.
>>> So, what micro-inverters are you using successfully, and how is the
>>> tech support behind it?
>>>
>>> Feel free to contact me offlist.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>>
>>> Chris Daum
>>> Oasis Montana Inc.
>>> 406-777-4309 <(406)%20777-4309> or 4321
>>> 406-777-4309 fax
>>> www.oasismontana.com
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Re: [RE-wrenches] No more Enphase

2017-07-14 Thread Sam Haraldson 
Howdy Wrenches,

First time poster.  Achieved NABCEP PV Pro just this year.  Only been in
the solar game 16 months.  Our company installs lots of SolarEdge DC
optimizer systems but not too many microinverters.  We have recently
embraced the new Outback Pro Harvest equipment (e.g HiQ) which has a
relatively solid history, and at only 5.75 kW might be a worthy alternate
to some microinverter systems.

Sam Haraldson
s...@onsiteenergyinc.com




>>> Fellow Wrenches:
>>>
>>> To make a long story short, we are done with Enphase.  They've
>>> refused to reimburse us for labor after replacing a faulty inverter.
>>> So, what micro-inverters are you using successfully, and how is the
>>> tech support behind it?
>>>
>>> Feel free to contact me offlist.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>>
>>> Chris Daum
>>> Oasis Montana Inc.
>>> 406-777-4309 <(406)%20777-4309> or 4321
>>> 406-777-4309 fax
>>> www.oasismontana.com
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[RE-wrenches] Inverter failure

2017-07-14 Thread Dana 
I have only installed 2 Enphase systems 1 just required a bunch of TLC as I was 
moving to Idaho from Colorado last fall. No one knew quite what was happening 
as the Enphase box had died of course 2 months past warranty & the owner was 
shocked at the replacement cost as was I. It really did not make sense to 
replace as it cost way more than the savings on power over a prolonged period 
of time.

I remember back at my first “Introduction to Enphase” seminar where the 
engineer kept using the term;” mean time to failure”. I kept listening as he 
used this term multiple times. So, I asked for clarification. MTF – If you are 
using similar components in similar conditions they should last X number of 
years based on similar types of equipment in similar conditions. I realized 
that this meant – “we really don’t know how long these inverters will survive 
in the real world. I decided then and there to do my usual “I think I will wait 
about 5 years and see what happens.”

 

I really like having the inverter on a wall or a pole where I can service & 
replace it; 3 – SMA 6000U & 2 -  Fronius 3KW, 0 – Power one, & 0 – outback to 
date replaced in grid tie applications.

 

 



Dana Orzel   Great Solar Works, Inc. 

208.721.7003   d...@solarwork.com

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NABCEP # 051112-136   www.solarwork.biz

"Responsible Technologies for Responsible People since 1988"  

P Please consider the environment before printing this email.

 

 

From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf 
Of Jerry Shafer
Sent: Friday, July 14, 2017 4:27 PM
To: RE-wrenches 
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] No more Enphase

 

Wrenches

I agree that enphase is not really playing fair but how many micro inverter 
manufactures have failed and are no longer even around. Ive been there when its 
all out of pocket and l know some of you have too and you have to fix it all 
and its all on you. l have megs of enphase both in California and Hawaii so 
jumping ship for another brand is to late even if l wanted to. Im all in with 
enphase and hope there RMA issues get better.

Remember the grass is NOT always greener.

Jerry

 

On Jul 14, 2017 12:15 PM, "Marco Mangelsdorf" mailto:ma...@pvthawaii.com> > wrote:

Any experience yet with the RESU10H, Dave?

marco

-Original Message-
From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org 
 ] On Behalf Of Dave Angelini 
Offgrid Solar
Sent: Friday, July 14, 2017 11:34 AM
To: RE-wrenches
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] No more Enphase


 I see LG is offering panels with their own micro-inverter. I bet they have an 
excellent product warranty. I have been testing their RESU-10 home energy 
battery for a year now and it is rock solid. Built to last!
--Dave



> Chris,
>
> Took me a while to jump but this season we went to AP systems. About
> 33% less $ plus its two modules per inverter, thus cuts down the
> install labor and time. The only issue is a base 10 year warranty. Can
> pay for 20. I'm hoping enough of us installers complain and they'll
> bump it up to 25 to match the modules.
>
> Christopher
>
> Chris Schaefer’s
> 
>
> *Tel/Fax 585-229-2083   or Cell 585-748-1870 
>   *
> *5115 South Hill Road ~ Canandaigua New York
> 14424**www.solarandwindfx.com   
>  ~
> E-mail: ch...@solarandwindfx.com  
> mailto:ch...@solarandwindfx.com> >*
>
>
> Thomas Jefferson, the author of our great Constitution, once said,
> "democracy" will cease to exist when you take away from those who are
> willing to work and give to those who would not."
>
> On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 10:48 AM, Chris Daum   >
> wrote:
>
>> Fellow Wrenches:
>>
>> To make a long story short, we are done with Enphase.  They've
>> refused to reimburse us for labor after replacing a faulty inverter.
>> So, what micro-inverters are you using successfully, and how is the
>> tech support behind it?
>>
>> Feel free to contact me offlist.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>>
>> Chris Daum
>> Oasis Montana Inc.
>> 406-777-4309   <(406)%20777-4309> or 4321
>> 406-777-4309   fax
>> www.oasismontana.com  
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Re: [RE-wrenches] No more Enphase

2017-07-14 Thread William Dorsett 
SMA’s 240 and Enphase both use (or used) electrolytic capacitors, and the most 
recent optimizers advertise that they use thin film instead. Does anyone know 
if that is the fly in the ointment? If so surely it would be common knowledge 
among designers and the mistake would be corrected in for example, in the IQ 6. 

 

Bill Dorsett

Manhattan, KS

 

From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf 
Of Chris Schaefer
Sent: Friday, July 14, 2017 12:00 PM
To: RE-wrenches
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] No more Enphase

 

Chris,

 

Took me a while to jump but this season we went to AP systems. About 33% less $ 
plus its two modules per inverter, thus cuts down the install labor and time. 
The only issue is a base 10 year warranty. Can pay for 20. I'm hoping enough of 
us installers complain and they'll bump it up to 25 to match the modules.

 

Christopher

Chris Schaefer’s
  
Tel/Fax 585-229-2083 or Cell 585-748-1870 
5115 South Hill Road ~ Canandaigua New York 14424
www.solarandwindfx.com   ~ E-mail: 
ch...@solarandwindfx.com

   

Thomas Jefferson, the author of our great Constitution, once said, "democracy" 
will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and 
give to those who would not."

 

On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 10:48 AM, Chris Daum  wrote:

Fellow Wrenches:

 

To make a long story short, we are done with Enphase.  They've refused to 
reimburse us for labor after replacing a faulty inverter.  So, what 
micro-inverters are you using successfully, and how is the tech support behind 
it?

 

Feel free to contact me offlist.

 

Best,

 

Chris Daum
Oasis Montana Inc.
406-777-4309   or 4321
406-777-4309 fax
www.oasismontana.com 
  


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Re: [RE-wrenches] Emphase and Warranties and Contractor Liability

2017-07-14 Thread William Dorsett 
   The other argument, Tom, is that it is easy for someone like BP to drop one 
of its many product lines and keep all of its others. With no history, any new 
hardware will have to generalize on “mean time between failure.” I don’t know 
what the future holds for Enphase in particular, but someone will move module 
level power electronics into far more reliability. There are just too many 
advantages to bypass. 

   It’s hard to imagine that LG, Jinko and SolarWorld would choose Enphase for 
their AC modules, without confidence in their reliability.  Westinghouse was 
early on in that choice, and Siemens markets rebranded versions up through at 
least M250 so their electronics have been evaluated by competent engineers. 
Siemens charges about $10 more/inverter so if you are more comfortable with a 
Siemens warranty that is maybe worth it. It will be telling if these companies 
follow beyond into the S and IQ series. I’m not sure that you’d want to trust 
the first inverter from any manufacturer and it gives me some assurance that 
Enphase is into its sixth version.  We’ll give IQ’s a trial run before 
dropping. I think it is a gutsy company which has made a remarkable run at it.

 

I am disappointed with their going back on their 15 year warranty and the lack 
of reimbursement that was initially promised. 

 

Bill Dorsett

Manhattan, KS

 

From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf 
Of Tom Lane
Sent: Friday, July 14, 2017 2:51 PM
To: re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org
Subject: [RE-wrenches] Emphase and Warranties and Contractor Liability

 

All companies on the stock market exchange MUST live up to their written 
warranties AND it is illegal for a contractor to give a longer or better 
warranty on THE manufacturers product Than the manufacturer gives . Also in 
many states you and the  distributor or whoever is left must replace the 
product IF the manufacturer goes belly up . Case in point the Chinese Sheet 
Rock fiasco. Noe Especially if you KNOW s company is in financial trouble AND 
sell their product, you can be liable because you are " in the swim " as an 
expert in your field and SHOULD know . That is why I advise contractors to use 
products like LG , Panasonic, Hyundai , etc that have more than one iron in the 
fire . Unfortunately some contractors in Florida are selling Suniva , old Sun 
Edison after they went kaput. Which is illegal since they have no warranty and 
a few were caught and had to take them down and then skeddale from a mad 😡 
homeowner who of course wanted his money back and would not pay the final . It 
is tough being a contractor but when you are selling HIGH dollar contracts the 
owner will no doubt look for legal beagles or lawyer sharks 🦈 who love high 
dollar recoveries . Just be cautious in today's world . GatorTom

 

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Re: [RE-wrenches] Emphase and Warranties and Contractor Liability

2017-07-14 Thread Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar 
Electrolytic capacitors are an incredible electronic component that really
have no business on a hot roof unless designed to be!
There are huge long term design factors that go into their use. We went to
the Moon, anything can be done, but I question why a string inverter is
not the best choice for longevity, or even a 600V mppt charge controller
like I use offgrid.  --Dave


>The other argument, Tom, is that it is easy for someone like BP to drop
> one of its many product lines and keep all of its others. With no
> history, any new hardware will have to generalize on “mean time
> between failure.” I don’t know what the future holds for Enphase in
> particular, but someone will move module level power electronics into
> far more reliability. There are just too many advantages to bypass.
>
>It’s hard to imagine that LG, Jinko and SolarWorld would choose
> Enphase for their AC modules, without confidence in their reliability.
> Westinghouse was early on in that choice, and Siemens markets rebranded
> versions up through at least M250 so their electronics have been
> evaluated by competent engineers. Siemens charges about $10
> more/inverter so if you are more comfortable with a Siemens warranty
> that is maybe worth it. It will be telling if these companies follow
> beyond into the S and IQ series. I’m not sure that you’d want to
> trust the first inverter from any manufacturer and it gives me some
> assurance that Enphase is into its sixth version.  We’ll give IQ’s
> a trial run before dropping. I think it is a gutsy company which has
> made a remarkable run at it.
>
>
>
> I am disappointed with their going back on their 15 year warranty and the
> lack of reimbursement that was initially promised.
>
>
>
> Bill Dorsett
>
> Manhattan, KS
>
>
>
> From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On
> Behalf Of Tom Lane
> Sent: Friday, July 14, 2017 2:51 PM
> To: re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org
> Subject: [RE-wrenches] Emphase and Warranties and Contractor Liability
>
>
>
> All companies on the stock market exchange MUST live up to their written
> warranties AND it is illegal for a contractor to give a longer or better
> warranty on THE manufacturers product Than the manufacturer gives . Also
> in many states you and the  distributor or whoever is left must replace
> the product IF the manufacturer goes belly up . Case in point the Chinese
> Sheet Rock fiasco. Noe Especially if you KNOW s company is in financial
> trouble AND sell their product, you can be liable because you are " in the
> swim " as an expert in your field and SHOULD know . That is why I advise
> contractors to use products like LG , Panasonic, Hyundai , etc that have
> more than one iron in the fire . Unfortunately some contractors in Florida
> are selling Suniva , old Sun Edison after they went kaput. Which is
> illegal since they have no warranty and a few were caught and had to take
> them down and then skeddale from a mad 😡 homeowner who of course wanted
> his money back and would not pay the final . It is tough being a
> contractor but when you are selling HIGH dollar contracts the owner will
> no doubt look for legal beagles or lawyer sharks 🦈 who love high dollar
> recoveries . Just be cautious in today's world . GatorTom
>
>
>
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Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar
"we go where powerlines don't"
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