Re: [RE-wrenches] module level control for offgrid

[Lones Tuss]

Hello Jay and All
Concerning module level shutdown. 
Tigo has conducted testing and has validated the FM60/80 charge controllers 
with their TS4 Module Platform 

Imo's FireRaptor has been tested by OutBack and can be used successfully in 
combination with FM60/80/100  the ICS Plus and the Skybox 5048

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HI All,

Well its the new year and Module level control is here. 690.12 (B)(2)

Does anyone have any updates as to products that work with CC's that meet it?

Thx
jay

Peltz Power




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Re: [RE-wrenches] VFX slow transfer from gen

[bruce]

Found some carbon on the BBus breaker and terms. Cleaned and tightened. Seemed to make the transfers seamless in manual start/stop, and got both inverters to read much closer to the same voltage without calibrating. We'll keep fingers crossed it works as well in auto stop after battery charge. Just goes to show all terminations should be checked every year. This system is about 12 years old and I just took it on a few months ago. Thanks for the input!Bruce 


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Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] VFX slow transfer from gen
From: "Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar" 
Date: Sat, February 02, 2019 1:36 pm
To: "RE-wrenches" 

Single inverter or master slave? Is there an AGS?

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> Fellow Head Scratchers and
> Gurus,I have replaced VFX Control and AC boards
> on an older FP2 system in order to have current firmwares compatible with
> new Mate3s and FM100s. I am having frequent transfer delays/ outages of 30
> - 60 seconds from ags Aux off gen stop until inverter transfers and
> produces. I have double checked all settings and compared to several other
> similar systems settings. Any ideas?
> Thanks!
> style="font-family: verdana, geneva;" mce_style="font-family: verdana,
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Re: [RE-wrenches] module level control for offgrid

[Dan Fink]

Jay; Off grid we have worked through some strange requirements over the
last few years, and in most it had a lot had to do with how electrical
inspectors interpreted NECthey are as puzzled as we are. There were
AHJs calling for giant remote-trip DC breakers on battery banks to comply
with rapid shutdown (I think that fire went out when it was pointed out
that meant all backup generators needed to be integrated into rapid
shutdown too, a no-go) And AHJs who said that because the conduit from a
ground mount array went 4 feet up the outside of a building to the first
disconnect before penetrating the building, that meant the PV array was "on
the building." And local solar companies frantically pounding in 250.47(D)
aux grounding electrodes below every PV array, even though that's a recipe
for disaster.

I'd boil it down to keeping good lines of communication open between PV
installers and the AHJs and being able to discuss frankly what exactly the
problem some of these more mysterious code items are trying to solve.

Dan Fink
Former Professor of Solar Energy Technology, Ecotech Institute
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On Sat, Feb 2, 2019 at 4:33 PM jay  wrote:

> HI Dan and Kienan,
>
> Yea I understand some of the work arounds, but its not always possible to
> work around things.  At some point its going to be in a building or on the
> roof etc.
>
> So sounds like from the crickets that things are not quite ready yet.
> Better slow and ready than fast and not.
>
> thx
> jay
>
>
>
> On Feb 2, 2019, at 12:47 PM, Dan Fink  wrote:
>
> A very common way around rapid shutdown for off-grid systems especially
> with ground or pole mounts is using a "power shed" for the BOS
> components.if it is not inhabited / uninhabitable then rapid shutdown
> is not needed per NEC 2017.
>
> Dan Fink
> Former Professor of Solar Energy Technology, Ecotech Institute
> IREC Certified Instructor™ for:
> ~ PV Installation Professional
> ~ Small Wind Installer
> Executive Director, Buckville Energy
> NABCEP Registered Continuing Education Providers™
> NABCEP PV Associate
>
> 970.672.4342
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Feb 2, 2019 at 1:40 PM Kienan Maxfield 
> wrote:
>
>> Jay,
>>
>> I'm interested in this too, but I don't have any good answers (I was
>> hoping that someone else would have responded by now). I know that this
>> doesn't answer the question... but my only comment is to use a pole mount
>> whenever possible. Rapid shutdown only applies to systems on a building or
>> where the PV system conductors penetrate beyond 3' into a building before
>> reaching the PV system disconnect. For a pole mount, as long as your
>> equipment is on the outside wall, you can easily get to the PV system
>> disconnect within 3' of wire length from the building penetration so no
>> rapid shutdown of any kind is required. The battery system is considered a
>> separate system in the 2017 code and there is no requirement for rapid
>> shutdown of any kind in that system.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Kienan
>>
>>
>> *Maxfield Solar*
>> *maxfieldso...@hotmail.com* 
>> * (801) 477-0-SUN (477-0786) (801) 631-5584 (Cell) *
>> --
>> *From:* RE-wrenches  on
>> behalf of jay 
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 30, 2019 6:02 PM
>> *To:* RE-wrenches
>> *Subject:* [RE-wrenches] module level control for offgrid
>>
>> HI All,
>>
>> Well its the new year and Module level control is here. 690.12 (B)(2)
>>
>> Does anyone have any updates as to products that work with CC's that meet
>> it?
>>
>> Thx
>> jay
>>
>> Peltz Power
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [RE-wrenches] VFX slow transfer from gen

[Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar]

Single inverter or master slave? Is there an AGS?

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Dave bruce@willpowerelect.comDave
> Fellow Head Scratchers and
> Gurus,I have replaced VFX Control and AC boards
> on an older FP2 system in order to have current firmwares compatible with
> new Mate3s and FM100s. I am having frequent transfer delays/ outages of 30
> - 60 seconds from ags Aux off gen stop until inverter transfers and
> produces. I have double checked all settings and compared to several other
> similar systems settings. Any ideas?
> Thanks! style="font-family: verdana, geneva;" mce_style="font-family: verdana,
> geneva;">Bruce
> Fiero mce_style="font-family: verdana, geneva;"> style="color: #355a8c;" mce_style="color:
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Re: [RE-wrenches] module level control for offgrid

[jay]

HI Dan and Kienan,

Yea I understand some of the work arounds, but its not always possible to work 
around things.  At some point its going to be in a building or on the roof etc. 
 

So sounds like from the crickets that things are not quite ready yet.  Better 
slow and ready than fast and not.

thx
jay



> On Feb 2, 2019, at 12:47 PM, Dan Fink  wrote:
> 
> A very common way around rapid shutdown for off-grid systems especially with 
> ground or pole mounts is using a "power shed" for the BOS components.if 
> it is not inhabited / uninhabitable then rapid shutdown is not needed per NEC 
> 2017.
> 
> Dan Fink
> Former Professor of Solar Energy Technology, Ecotech Institute
> IREC Certified Instructor™ for: 
> ~ PV Installation Professional
> ~ Small Wind Installer
> Executive Director, Buckville Energy
> NABCEP Registered Continuing Education Providers™
> NABCEP PV Associate
> 
> 970.672.4342 <>
>  
> 
> 
> On Sat, Feb 2, 2019 at 1:40 PM Kienan Maxfield  > wrote:
> Jay,
> 
> I'm interested in this too, but I don't have any good answers (I was hoping 
> that someone else would have responded by now). I know that this doesn't 
> answer the question... but my only comment is to use a pole mount whenever 
> possible. Rapid shutdown only applies to systems on a building or where the 
> PV system conductors penetrate beyond 3' into a building before reaching the 
> PV system disconnect. For a pole mount, as long as your equipment is on the 
> outside wall, you can easily get to the PV system disconnect within 3' of 
> wire length from the building penetration so no rapid shutdown of any kind is 
> required. The battery system is considered a separate system in the 2017 code 
> and there is no requirement for rapid shutdown of any kind in that system. 
> 
> Thanks,
> Kienan
> 
> 
> Maxfield Solar
> maxfieldso...@hotmail.com 
> (801) 477-0-SUN (477-0786)
> (801) 631-5584 (Cell)
> From: RE-wrenches  > on behalf of jay 
> mailto:jay.pe...@gmail.com>>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2019 6:02 PM
> To: RE-wrenches
> Subject: [RE-wrenches] module level control for offgrid
>  
> HI All,
> 
> Well its the new year and Module level control is here. 690.12 (B)(2)
> 
> Does anyone have any updates as to products that work with CC's that meet it?
> 
> Thx
> jay 
> 
> Peltz Power
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Re: [RE-wrenches] module level control for offgrid

[Darryl Thayer]

Midnight solar has an RSS and Tigo has an RS4 they all need to have the
rapid shut down sw turn off the inverter to stop the DC current then the
module level Switches can shut off the module

On Thu, Jan 31, 2019, 12:58 AM jay  HI All,
>
> Well its the new year and Module level control is here. 690.12 (B)(2)
>
> Does anyone have any updates as to products that work with CC's that meet
> it?
>
> Thx
> jay
>
> Peltz Power
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>
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[RE-wrenches] VFX slow transfer from gen

[bruce]

Fellow Head Scratchers and Gurus,I have replaced VFX Control and AC boards on an older FP2 system in order to have current firmwares compatible with new Mate3s and FM100s. I am having frequent transfer delays/ outages of 30 - 60 seconds from ags Aux off gen stop until inverter transfers and produces. I have double checked all settings and compared to several other similar systems settings. Any ideas?  Thanks!Bruce FieroCCB 191852Oregon Electrical Contractor C681NABCEP Certified Solar (PV) Installer 031409-38DUNS 191470363 Energy Trust of Oregon Trade Ally Solar (PV) Installation & Energy Efficient Commercial Lighting Programs   
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Re: [RE-wrenches] module level control for offgrid

[Dan Fink]

A very common way around rapid shutdown for off-grid systems especially
with ground or pole mounts is using a "power shed" for the BOS
components.if it is not inhabited / uninhabitable then rapid shutdown
is not needed per NEC 2017.

Dan Fink
Former Professor of Solar Energy Technology, Ecotech Institute
IREC Certified Instructor™ for:
~ PV Installation Professional
~ Small Wind Installer
Executive Director, Buckville Energy
NABCEP Registered Continuing Education Providers™
NABCEP PV Associate

970.672.4342




On Sat, Feb 2, 2019 at 1:40 PM Kienan Maxfield 
wrote:

> Jay,
>
> I'm interested in this too, but I don't have any good answers (I was
> hoping that someone else would have responded by now). I know that this
> doesn't answer the question... but my only comment is to use a pole mount
> whenever possible. Rapid shutdown only applies to systems on a building or
> where the PV system conductors penetrate beyond 3' into a building before
> reaching the PV system disconnect. For a pole mount, as long as your
> equipment is on the outside wall, you can easily get to the PV system
> disconnect within 3' of wire length from the building penetration so no
> rapid shutdown of any kind is required. The battery system is considered a
> separate system in the 2017 code and there is no requirement for rapid
> shutdown of any kind in that system.
>
> Thanks,
> Kienan
>
>
> *Maxfield Solar*
> *maxfieldso...@hotmail.com* 
> * (801) 477-0-SUN (477-0786) (801) 631-5584 (Cell) *
> --
> *From:* RE-wrenches  on behalf
> of jay 
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 30, 2019 6:02 PM
> *To:* RE-wrenches
> *Subject:* [RE-wrenches] module level control for offgrid
>
> HI All,
>
> Well its the new year and Module level control is here. 690.12 (B)(2)
>
> Does anyone have any updates as to products that work with CC's that meet
> it?
>
> Thx
> jay
>
> Peltz Power
>
>
>
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Re: [RE-wrenches] module level control for offgrid

[Kienan Maxfield]

Jay,

I'm interested in this too, but I don't have any good answers (I was hoping 
that someone else would have responded by now). I know that this doesn't answer 
the question... but my only comment is to use a pole mount whenever possible. 
Rapid shutdown only applies to systems on a building or where the PV system 
conductors penetrate beyond 3' into a building before reaching the PV system 
disconnect. For a pole mount, as long as your equipment is on the outside wall, 
you can easily get to the PV system disconnect within 3' of wire length from 
the building penetration so no rapid shutdown of any kind is required. The 
battery system is considered a separate system in the 2017 code and there is no 
requirement for rapid shutdown of any kind in that system.

Thanks,
Kienan


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From: RE-wrenches  on behalf of jay 

Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2019 6:02 PM
To: RE-wrenches
Subject: [RE-wrenches] module level control for offgrid

HI All,

Well its the new year and Module level control is here. 690.12 (B)(2)

Does anyone have any updates as to products that work with CC's that meet it?

Thx
jay

Peltz Power




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