[RE-wrenches] VFX Board compatibility

2019-02-16 Thread John Blittersdorf
Hi Group,
 I have quite a collection of VFX and GVFX inverters with board
problems.  I am trying to get a few working by cannibalizing others.  To my
knowledge some boards are DC Voltage specific (ie FET Board),  Ac Board is
common on all FX series,  control board is voltage and grid vs off-grid
specific.  I have a control board that has a double pin selector for 12,24,
or 48V.  Does anyone know if my recollections above are correct  and if the
control board with the pin can be changed to the specific voltages just by
moving the pin?

John Blittersdorf
CV Wind Service
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Re: [RE-wrenches] module level control for offgrid

2019-02-16 Thread Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar
Jerry,

Why do you have to meet rapid shutdown on an existing installation please?

Down here in the central Sierra we have been uninsurable for fire really
since we built the home. Many of my clients self-insure offgrid. We do the
best we can for installation and fire hardening and then just cross the
fingers. I am interested in this subject because it will get looked at
more. Since I mostly always use ground mounted solar I have not been as
concerned. You guys really had it bad. I can't imagine all the fires we
have had here with those kinds of wind speeds.


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> Wrenches
> Regarding the RSD both here and coming soon to a town near you, I found
> that the Tigo TS4-R-S is completely compliant for the OutBack system
> including module level monitoring, however the F model also from Tigo is
> not at all. I attempted to contact other manufactures but had no success,
> if they are hard to get or find that does not make me feel warm and fuzzy
> down the road.
> So for all of us living and building the off grid dream and wanting to be
> 2017 compliant when it happens we have a solution.
> I have had conversations with the insurance groups and for us in the 2017
> fire storm on Sonoma and Napa Counties here in California, there has been
> questions about paying out if the system is either not permitted or
> modified in such a manor that is unsafe.
> Jerry
> NABCEP PV Inspector
> NABCEP PV Installer
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 8, 2019, 11:59 AM Lones Tuss 
>> Hello Jay
>> Well it seems that I can't leave well enough alone.
>>
>> Below are some links I have found to the Tigo and IMO products
>> concerning
>> module level shutdown.
>> Both have been tested with OutBack products.
>> I do not think Tigo or IMO have a presence on Wrenches and I know this
>> is
>> gaining importance.
>> I hope this helps.
>>  Take Care All
>>
>> Tigo
>>
>> https://www.tigoenergy.com/about-tigo/certifications/rapid-shutdown-system-modules/
>>
>>
>> IMO Fireraptor is a module level shutdown system that is tested and
>> works
>> with OutBack gear.
>> https://imorenewableenergy.com/fireraptor.html
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: RE-wrenches  On Behalf
>> Of jay
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2019 5:02 PM
>> To: RE-wrenches 
>> Subject: [RE-wrenches] module level control for offgrid
>>
>> ** [EXTERNAL EMAIL] - Please report any suspicious attachments, links,
>> or
>> requests for sensitive information to the Help Desk. **
>> 
>>
>> HI All,
>>
>> Well its the new year and Module level control is here. 690.12 (B)(2)
>>
>> Does anyone have any updates as to products that work with CC's that
>> meet
>> it?
>>
>> Thx
>> jay
>>
>> Peltz Power
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [RE-wrenches] module level control for offgrid

2019-02-16 Thread Matt Partymiller
I tried to design a system with TS4-Os and an Outback CC.  They were not
compatible at that time (about a year ago) due to conflict between
optimizer function and Outback MPPT.  The system would get stuck off MPPT.
 I assume that is still the case but cannot confirm.  Tigo support kept
saying they had resolved the issue (while blaming Outback) but never did. 
We finally just removed the units.

Matt


On Sat, February 16, 2019 4:23 pm, Jerry Shafer wrote:
> Wrenches
> Regarding the RSD both here and coming soon to a town near you, I found
> that the Tigo TS4-R-S is completely compliant for the OutBack system
> including module level monitoring, however the F model also from Tigo is
> not at all. I attempted to contact other manufactures but had no success,
>  if they are hard to get or find that does not make me feel warm and
> fuzzy down the road. So for all of us living and building the off grid
> dream and wanting to be 2017 compliant when it happens we have a solution.
>  I have had conversations with the insurance groups and for us in the
> 2017
> fire storm on Sonoma and Napa Counties here in California, there has been
> questions about paying out if the system is either not permitted or
> modified in such a manor that is unsafe. Jerry
> NABCEP PV Inspector
> NABCEP PV Installer
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 8, 2019, 11:59 AM Lones Tuss 
>
>> Hello Jay
>> Well it seems that I can't leave well enough alone.
>>
>>
>> Below are some links I have found to the Tigo and IMO products
>> concerning module level shutdown. Both have been tested with OutBack
>> products. I do not think Tigo or IMO have a presence on Wrenches and I
>> know this is gaining importance. I hope this helps.
>> Take Care All
>>
>>
>> Tigo
>>
>>
>> https://www.tigoenergy.com/about-tigo/certifications/rapid-shutdown-sys
>> tem-modules/
>>
>>
>> IMO Fireraptor is a module level shutdown system that is tested and
>> works with OutBack gear. https://imorenewableenergy.com/fireraptor.html
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: RE-wrenches  On Behalf
>> Of jay
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2019 5:02 PM
>> To: RE-wrenches 
>> Subject: [RE-wrenches] module level control for offgrid
>>
>>
>> ** [EXTERNAL EMAIL] - Please report any suspicious attachments, links,
>> or requests for sensitive information to the Help Desk. **
>> 
>>
>>
>> HI All,
>>
>>
>> Well its the new year and Module level control is here. 690.12 (B)(2)
>>
>>
>> Does anyone have any updates as to products that work with CC's that
>> meet it?
>>
>> Thx
>> jay
>>
>> Peltz Power
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [RE-wrenches] module level control for offgrid

2019-02-16 Thread Jerry Shafer
Wrenches
Regarding the RSD both here and coming soon to a town near you, I found
that the Tigo TS4-R-S is completely compliant for the OutBack system
including module level monitoring, however the F model also from Tigo is
not at all. I attempted to contact other manufactures but had no success,
if they are hard to get or find that does not make me feel warm and fuzzy
down the road.
So for all of us living and building the off grid dream and wanting to be
2017 compliant when it happens we have a solution.
I have had conversations with the insurance groups and for us in the 2017
fire storm on Sonoma and Napa Counties here in California, there has been
questions about paying out if the system is either not permitted or
modified in such a manor that is unsafe.
Jerry
NABCEP PV Inspector
NABCEP PV Installer


On Fri, Feb 8, 2019, 11:59 AM Lones Tuss  Hello Jay
> Well it seems that I can't leave well enough alone.
>
> Below are some links I have found to the Tigo and IMO products concerning
> module level shutdown.
> Both have been tested with OutBack products.
> I do not think Tigo or IMO have a presence on Wrenches and I know this is
> gaining importance.
> I hope this helps.
>  Take Care All
>
> Tigo
>
> https://www.tigoenergy.com/about-tigo/certifications/rapid-shutdown-system-modules/
>
>
> IMO Fireraptor is a module level shutdown system that is tested and works
> with OutBack gear.
> https://imorenewableenergy.com/fireraptor.html
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: RE-wrenches  On Behalf
> Of jay
> Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2019 5:02 PM
> To: RE-wrenches 
> Subject: [RE-wrenches] module level control for offgrid
>
> ** [EXTERNAL EMAIL] - Please report any suspicious attachments, links, or
> requests for sensitive information to the Help Desk. **
> 
>
> HI All,
>
> Well its the new year and Module level control is here. 690.12 (B)(2)
>
> Does anyone have any updates as to products that work with CC's that meet
> it?
>
> Thx
> jay
>
> Peltz Power
>
>
>
>
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