Re: [RE-wrenches] Aftermarket monitoring
Peter - Here's a comparison chart I put together as we explore our 3rd party monitoring options in the wake of the Locus acquisition by Also Energy, with the caveat that the info is collected from various sources over time and may not be 100% accurate: *GPM* *Nor-Cal / Power Factors* *QOS* *Locus / Also * *Can we use inverter-native meters* Sometimes Sometimes (direct to PF) Yes No *If yes, can firmware upgrades / power cycling be pushed from the platform* Sometimes Sometimes Sometimes n/a *Can we build our own meters* Yes Yes Yes Yes *Vendor offers a pre-configured meter* Yes Yes Yes Yes *SCADA capability* Yes Yes Minimal Yes *Mobile app * Yes ? Yes 2: CMMS (available off-line), Monitoring No locus / yes Also *Predictive analytics that account for weather* Yes Yes Yes Yes *PV O&M services* No Partnerships No No *Weather station options* Multiple Lufft, Huxaflux (pyranometer), IMT (temp) Obvious, others RT1 / INT reference cell with temp *Storage capabilities* Yes In development Yes Some *Pricing structure* Pay for hardware, software, and data, all w/ a significant margin built in $10-15k minimum: RG meter (accuenergy), datalogger (Obvious Aquasuite, Windows (Power Factors), cell modem (Sierra Wireless), owner buys wireless plan $/MW/year Pay for hardware, software, and data, all w/ a significant margin built in *Notes* Optimized for utility and large-commercial Open source Swinerton partner Partnering with eGuage for a lower-cost (potentially) meter option https://store.egauge.net/ - Cost $250/meter to set up / $100/year for platform Optimized for utility and large-commercial Obvious relationship eGaurd - amalgamate data Good ticketing / calendaring All eGuage meters are RG, but only some CTs; Cellular is AT&T or T-mobile; Pricing structure should work for small commercial $400/site to set up all the alarms / models in PowerTrack I'm curious what others are doing these days as Also continues to consolidate monitoring platforms. It sounds like an interesting project Peter, feel free to give me a call if the customer might be interested in financing or 3rd party ownership for the new ESS. Regards, Andrew Truitt www.dr.ventures d: 202.486.7507 NABCEP Certified PV Installation Professional ID: 032407-66 Colorado Journeyman Electrician License No.: 600132 [image: Logo] The content of this email is confidential and intended for the recipient specified in message only. It is strictly forbidden to share any part of this message with any third party, without a written consent of the sender. If you received this message by mistake, please reply to this message and follow with its deletion, so that we can ensure such a mistake does not occur in the future. On Mon, Dec 9, 2019 at 8:28 AM wrote: > Good morning fellow wrenchers. Looking for recommendations on an > aftermarket monitoring system. Commercial site, 208 and customer is putting > back 3 times as much as they are using. They want to know when they are > putting back, when they are buying and how much so we can design the right > battery system to power shave those times. Thanks in advance. > > > > Peter Giroux > > American Solar & Alternative Energy Solutions > > Roswell Ga > ___ > List sponsored by Redwood Alliance > > List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org > > Change listserver email address & settings: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List-Archive: > http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html > > List rules & etiquette: > www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm > > Check out or update participant bios: > www.members.re-wrenches.org > > ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html List rules & etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] Aftermarket monitoring
Eguage should work well for that application Sky Sims Https://EcologicalSystems.biz > On Dec 9, 2019, at 10:28 AM, pgir...@mindspring.com wrote: > > > Good morning fellow wrenchers. Looking for recommendations on an aftermarket > monitoring system. Commercial site, 208 and customer is putting back 3 times > as much as they are using. They want to know when they are putting back, when > they are buying and how much so we can design the right battery system to > power shave those times. Thanks in advance. > > Peter Giroux > American Solar & Alternative Energy Solutions > Roswell Ga > ___ > List sponsored by Redwood Alliance > > List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org > > Change listserver email address & settings: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List-Archive: > http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html > > List rules & etiquette: > www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm > > Check out or update participant bios: > www.members.re-wrenches.org > ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html List rules & etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] Aftermarket monitoring
Egauge Howard "Scot" Arey owner, Solar CenTex 254 300 1228 On Mon, Dec 9, 2019 at 9:28 AM -0600, wrote: Good morning fellow wrenchers. Looking for recommendations on an aftermarket monitoring system. Commercial site, 208 and customer is putting back 3 times as much as they are using. They want to know when they are putting back, when they are buying and how much so we can design the right battery system to power shave those times. Thanks in advance. Peter Giroux American Solar & Alternative Energy Solutions Roswell Ga ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html List rules & etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] Aftermarket monitoring
Eguage does performance monitoring codes not connect to inverters On Mon, Dec 9, 2019, 7:28 AM wrote: > Good morning fellow wrenchers. Looking for recommendations on an > aftermarket monitoring system. Commercial site, 208 and customer is putting > back 3 times as much as they are using. They want to know when they are > putting back, when they are buying and how much so we can design the right > battery system to power shave those times. Thanks in advance. > > > > Peter Giroux > > American Solar & Alternative Energy Solutions > > Roswell Ga > ___ > List sponsored by Redwood Alliance > > List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org > > Change listserver email address & settings: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List-Archive: > http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html > > List rules & etiquette: > www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm > > Check out or update participant bios: > www.members.re-wrenches.org > > ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html List rules & etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
[RE-wrenches] Aftermarket monitoring
Good morning fellow wrenchers. Looking for recommendations on an aftermarket monitoring system. Commercial site, 208 and customer is putting back 3 times as much as they are using. They want to know when they are putting back, when they are buying and how much so we can design the right battery system to power shave those times. Thanks in advance. Peter Giroux American Solar & Alternative Energy Solutions Roswell Ga ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html List rules & etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org