Re: [RE-wrenches] SMA SB 2500U

2021-05-18 Thread William Miller 
Jay:

The back story is sometimes useful. Thank you for filling in the details.  

I have a soft spot for community radio. I also have some used, working SB 2500U 
inverters on the shelf.  I’d be happy to send you one. Contact me off  list.

The used inverter offered came from an art-house theater. These were the units 
I ordered for 208 by mistake and had to send back to be made 240. They were 
replaced by TL-21 inverters.   See this link if you are curious.

https://www.thepalmtheatre.com/about-us

I agree that in most cases we need to comply with updated standards. I have on 
occasion bent the rules to apply an in-stock inverter that does not meet the 
latest and greatest requirements to replace an older unit. For example I am 
pretty lenient with clients that want to remove an antiquated AES1000 or other 
inverter and put in something newer without stirring the hornets-nest of 
utility or building department approval.

William Miller
www.millersolar.com

> On May 18, 2021, at 7:15 PM, Jay  wrote:
> 
> 
> Dear wrenches
> 
> I did not include the back story as it is not relevant to my inquiry. However 
> given the comments I decided to include it in that it will hopefully clear up 
> any confusion. 
> 
> Where I used to live, the local community radio station ( poorly funded) has 
> a old PV system with you guessed it a SMA SB2500U that was installed brand 
> new a long time ago. 
> It failed and a replacement was located for $150.  But it was 208 and not 
> 240vac, which someone didn’t catch when ordering it. 
> A buck/boost transformer allows it to work but adds tare losses that we were 
> trying to remove. 
> 
> It is my understanding that a like for like component swap is covered under 
> code rules. Regardless, no inspection or calls to the county permit office 
> were made or will be made. One of the great joys of living very rurally. 
> 
> Back to my original post about how to or if it’s possible to convert a 208 to 
> 240vac SMA SB2500U, which appears to be no, thanks to all who contacted me. 
> 
> Jay
> 
> Peltz Power. 
> 
>>> On May 18, 2021, at 7:23 PM, Jerry Shafer  wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> Wrenches
>> I would also be surprised if the old 2500 would last very long.
>> Better off with a SB5.0-41 and if you need RSD then add that in also.
>> 
>>> On Tue, May 18, 2021, 12:15 PM Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar 
>>>  wrote:
>>> Probably if it is old it does not have these recent Certifications and UL 
>>> requirements. Just gave these to my local AHJ.
>>> 
>>> IEEE 1547, UL 1741-SA, Rule 21, Rule 14H, PREPA, and CSA 107.1
>>> 
>>> Product Certification History Project Date Description 80049402 2020-09-18 
>>> Update to report 70194014 to meet grid support function according to CA 
>>> Rule 21 for 120Vac output configuration. 80036281 2020-03-15 Update report 
>>> 70194014 to include UL1741 CRD SA17/18 UL 1741(California Rule 21 Phase 3 
>>> Function 2 and Function 3) for Model XW Pro 6848 NA. 80020062 2019-10-30 
>>> Update report 70194014 to include firmware upgrade for Model XW Pro 6848 
>>> NA. 70220117 2019-03-27 Update Report 70194014 to include minor firmware 
>>> update for Model XW Pro 6848 NA. 70212688 2019-03-04 Update Report 70194014 
>>> to Include Volt-Watt and revised Freq-Watt grid tie requirements as per 
>>> UL1741 Supplement SA for Model XW Pro 6848 NA (FGA 865-6848-21).
>>> 
>>> Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar
>>> "we go where powerlines don't"
>>> http://members.sti.net/offgridsolar/
>>> e-mail  offgridso...@sti.net
>>> text 209 813 0060
 On Tue, 18 May 2021 14:07:08 -0400, "Glenn Burt"  
 wrote:
 
 Hi Kirk,
 
  
 
 Can you elaborate on which UL standards the older SB units don't comply 
 with?
 
  
 
 -Glenn
 
  
 
 From: RE-wrenches  On Behalf Of 
 Kirk Herander, VSE
 Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2021 6:42 AM
 To: re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org
 Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] SMA SB 2500U
 
  
 
 These older Sunnyboys do not comply with latest UL standards regardless. 
 If its a new installation, a savvy utility  / AHJ will catch this.
 
  
 
 Kirk Herander / kirkh@vermont.solar
 
 Owner|Principal, VT Solar, LLC
 
 Celebrating our 30th Anniversary 1991-2021!!
 
 www.vermont.solar
 
 dba Vermont Solar Engineering
 
 802.863.1202
 
 On 5/17/2021 3:53:26 PM, William Miller  wrote:
 
 Jay: 
 
 Some years ago I mis-ordered 5 SB2500s for 208 three phase and it turned 
 out the system was 240 VAC three phase (open delta). I had to return the 
 inverters to the factory to be converted and I had to rewire all of the 
 arrays. So no, I don't think this can be done in the field. 
 
 William Miller 
 
 Miller Solar 
 17395 Oak Road, Atascadero, CA 93422 
 805-438-5600 
 www.millersolar.com 
 CA Lic. 773985 
 
 
 -Original Message- 
 From: RE-wrenches [mailto:

Re: [RE-wrenches] SMA SB 2500U

2021-05-18 Thread Jay 
Dear wrenches

I did not include the back story as it is not relevant to my inquiry. However 
given the comments I decided to include it in that it will hopefully clear up 
any confusion. 

Where I used to live, the local community radio station ( poorly funded) has a 
old PV system with you guessed it a SMA SB2500U that was installed brand new a 
long time ago. 
It failed and a replacement was located for $150.  But it was 208 and not 
240vac, which someone didn’t catch when ordering it. 
A buck/boost transformer allows it to work but adds tare losses that we were 
trying to remove. 

It is my understanding that a like for like component swap is covered under 
code rules. Regardless, no inspection or calls to the county permit office were 
made or will be made. One of the great joys of living very rurally. 

Back to my original post about how to or if it’s possible to convert a 208 to 
240vac SMA SB2500U, which appears to be no, thanks to all who contacted me. 

Jay

Peltz Power. 

> On May 18, 2021, at 7:23 PM, Jerry Shafer  wrote:
> 
> 
> Wrenches
> I would also be surprised if the old 2500 would last very long.
> Better off with a SB5.0-41 and if you need RSD then add that in also.
> 
>> On Tue, May 18, 2021, 12:15 PM Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar 
>>  wrote:
>> Probably if it is old it does not have these recent Certifications and UL 
>> requirements. Just gave these to my local AHJ.
>> 
>> IEEE 1547, UL 1741-SA, Rule 21, Rule 14H, PREPA, and CSA 107.1
>> 
>> Product Certification History Project Date Description 80049402 2020-09-18 
>> Update to report 70194014 to meet grid support function according to CA Rule 
>> 21 for 120Vac output configuration. 80036281 2020-03-15 Update report 
>> 70194014 to include UL1741 CRD SA17/18 UL 1741(California Rule 21 Phase 3 
>> Function 2 and Function 3) for Model XW Pro 6848 NA. 80020062 2019-10-30 
>> Update report 70194014 to include firmware upgrade for Model XW Pro 6848 NA. 
>> 70220117 2019-03-27 Update Report 70194014 to include minor firmware update 
>> for Model XW Pro 6848 NA. 70212688 2019-03-04 Update Report 70194014 to 
>> Include Volt-Watt and revised Freq-Watt grid tie requirements as per UL1741 
>> Supplement SA for Model XW Pro 6848 NA (FGA 865-6848-21).
>> 
>> Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar
>> "we go where powerlines don't"
>> http://members.sti.net/offgridsolar/
>> e-mail  offgridso...@sti.net
>> text 209 813 0060
>>> On Tue, 18 May 2021 14:07:08 -0400, "Glenn Burt"  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Kirk,
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Can you elaborate on which UL standards the older SB units don't comply 
>>> with?
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> -Glenn
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From: RE-wrenches  On Behalf Of 
>>> Kirk Herander, VSE
>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2021 6:42 AM
>>> To: re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org
>>> Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] SMA SB 2500U
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> These older Sunnyboys do not comply with latest UL standards regardless. If 
>>> its a new installation, a savvy utility  / AHJ will catch this.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Kirk Herander / kirkh@vermont.solar
>>> 
>>> Owner|Principal, VT Solar, LLC
>>> 
>>> Celebrating our 30th Anniversary 1991-2021!!
>>> 
>>> www.vermont.solar
>>> 
>>> dba Vermont Solar Engineering
>>> 
>>> 802.863.1202
>>> 
>>> On 5/17/2021 3:53:26 PM, William Miller  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Jay: 
>>> 
>>> Some years ago I mis-ordered 5 SB2500s for 208 three phase and it turned 
>>> out the system was 240 VAC three phase (open delta). I had to return the 
>>> inverters to the factory to be converted and I had to rewire all of the 
>>> arrays. So no, I don't think this can be done in the field. 
>>> 
>>> William Miller 
>>> 
>>> Miller Solar 
>>> 17395 Oak Road, Atascadero, CA 93422 
>>> 805-438-5600 
>>> www.millersolar.com 
>>> CA Lic. 773985 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message- 
>>> From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On 
>>> Behalf Of Jay 
>>> Sent: Monday, May 17, 2021 11:44 AM 
>>> To: RE-wrenches 
>>> Subject: [RE-wrenches] SMA SB 2500U 
>>> 
>>> Does anyone know if you can convert a 
>>> SMA SB2500U ( old red inverter) from 208 to 240vac? 
>>> 
>>> Without using a boost transformer. 
>>> 
>>> Thx 
>>> Jay 
>>> 
>>> Peltz power. 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ___ 
>>> List sponsored by Redwood Alliance 
>>> 
>>> Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org 
>>> 
>>> List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org 
>>> 
>>> Change listserver email address & settings: 
>>> http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org 
>>> 
>>> There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the 
>>> other: 
>>> https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/ 
>>> http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org 
>>> 
>>> List rules & etiquette: 
>>> http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm 
>>> 
>>> Check out or update participant bios: 
>>> http://www.members.re-wrenches.org 
>>> ___

Re: [RE-wrenches] SMA SB 2500U

2021-05-18 Thread Jerry Shafer 
Wrenches
I would also be surprised if the old 2500 would last very long.
Better off with a SB5.0-41 and if you need RSD then add that in also.

On Tue, May 18, 2021, 12:15 PM Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar <
offgridso...@sti.net> wrote:

> Probably if it is old it does not have these recent Certifications and UL
> requirements. Just gave these to my local AHJ.
>
> IEEE 1547, UL 1741-SA, Rule 21, Rule 14H, PREPA, and CSA 107.1
>
> Product Certification History Project Date Description 80049402 2020-09-18
> Update to report 70194014 to meet grid support function according to CA
> Rule 21 for 120Vac output configuration. 80036281 2020-03-15 Update report
> 70194014 to include UL1741 CRD SA17/18 UL 1741(California Rule 21 Phase 3
> Function 2 and Function 3) for Model XW Pro 6848 NA. 80020062 2019-10-30
> Update report 70194014 to include firmware upgrade for Model XW Pro 6848
> NA. 70220117 2019-03-27 Update Report 70194014 to include minor firmware
> update for Model XW Pro 6848 NA. 70212688 2019-03-04 Update Report 70194014
> to Include Volt-Watt and revised Freq-Watt grid tie requirements as per
> UL1741 Supplement SA for Model XW Pro 6848 NA (FGA 865-6848-21).
>
> *Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar
> "we go where powerlines don't"
> http://members.sti.net/offgridsolar/ 
> e-mail  offgridso...@sti.net 
> text 209 813 0060*
>
> On Tue, 18 May 2021 14:07:08 -0400, "Glenn Burt" 
> wrote:
>
> Hi Kirk,
>
>
>
> Can you elaborate on which UL standards the older SB units don't comply
> with?
>
>
>
> -Glenn
>
>
>
> *From:* RE-wrenches  *On
> Behalf Of *Kirk Herander, VSE
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 18, 2021 6:42 AM
> *To:* re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org
> *Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] SMA SB 2500U
>
>
>
> These older Sunnyboys do not comply with latest UL standards regardless.
> If its a new installation, a savvy utility  / AHJ will catch this.
>
>
>
> *Kirk Herander / kirkh@vermont.solar *
>
> *Owner|Principal, VT Solar, LLC*
>
> *Celebrating our 30th Anniversary 1991-2021!!*
>
> *www.vermont.solar*
> 
>
> dba Vermont Solar Engineering
>
> 802.863.1202
>
> On 5/17/2021 3:53:26 PM, William Miller  wrote:
>
> Jay:
>
> Some years ago I mis-ordered 5 SB2500s for 208 three phase and it turned
> out the system was 240 VAC three phase (open delta). I had to return the
> inverters to the factory to be converted and I had to rewire all of the
> arrays. So no, I don't think this can be done in the field.
>
> William Miller
>
> Miller Solar
> 17395 Oak Road, Atascadero, CA 93422
> 805-438-5600
> www.millersolar.com
> CA Lic. 773985
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org
> ] On
> Behalf Of Jay
> Sent: Monday, May 17, 2021 11:44 AM
> To: RE-wrenches
> Subject: [RE-wrenches] SMA SB 2500U
>
> Does anyone know if you can convert a
> SMA SB2500U ( old red inverter) from 208 to 240vac?
>
> Without using a boost transformer.
>
> Thx
> Jay
>
> Peltz power.
>
>
> ___
> List sponsored by Redwood Alliance
>
> Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org
>
> List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org
>
> Change listserver email address & settings:
> http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org
>
> There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the
> other:
> https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/
> http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org
>
> List rules & etiquette:
> http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm
>
> Check out or update participant bios:
> http://www.members.re-wrenches.org
> ___
> List sponsored by Redwood Alliance
>
> Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org
>
> List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org
>
> Change listserver email address & settings:
> http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org
>
> There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the
> other:
> https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/
> http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org
>
> List rules & etiquette:
> http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm
>
> Check out or update participant bios:
> http://www.members.re-wrenches.org
>
> ___
> List sponsored by Redwood Alliance
>
> Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org
>
> List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org
>
> Change listserver email address & settings:
> http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org
>
> There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work,

Re: [RE-wrenches] SMA SB 2500U

2021-05-18 Thread Kirk Herander, VSE 
"IEEE 1547-1" certification is required at least in the New England ISO 
document which our utilities abide by. IEEE 1547 does not qualify. My local 
utility denied my approval for installation last year of a old SMA2500U 
inverter for this reason. 


Kirk Herander / kirkh@vermont.solar [mailto:kirkh@vermont.solar]
Owner|Principal, VT Solar, LLC
Celebrating our 30th Anniversary 1991-2021!!
www.vermont.solar 
[https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.vermontsolarnow.com&data=02%7C01%7C%7C9f0330d75a244870112408d685311841%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636842843233477645&sdata=0NjyuKeQbEK6245SNnk8X4XnP9Q%2B%2BqtvcALkdDghvk4%3D&reserved=0]
dba Vermont Solar Engineering
802.863.1202

On 5/18/2021 2:07:28 PM, Glenn Burt  wrote:
Hi Kirk,
 
Can you elaborate on which UL standards the older SB units don’t comply with?
 
-Glenn
 
From: RE-wrenches  On Behalf Of Kirk 
Herander, VSE
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2021 6:42 AM
To: re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] SMA SB 2500U
 
These older Sunnyboys do not comply with latest UL standards regardless. If its 
a new installation, a savvy utility  / AHJ will catch this.
 
Kirk Herander / kirkh@vermont.solar [mailto:kirkh@vermont.solar]
Owner|Principal, VT Solar, LLC
Celebrating our 30th Anniversary 1991-2021!!
www.vermont.solar 
[https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.vermontsolarnow.com&data=02%7C01%7C%7C9f0330d75a244870112408d685311841%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636842843233477645&sdata=0NjyuKeQbEK6245SNnk8X4XnP9Q%2B%2BqtvcALkdDghvk4%3D&reserved=0]
dba Vermont Solar Engineering
802.863.1202
On 5/17/2021 3:53:26 PM, William Miller mailto:will...@millersolar.com]> wrote:
Jay:

Some years ago I mis-ordered 5 SB2500s for 208 three phase and it turned
out the system was 240 VAC three phase (open delta). I had to return the
inverters to the factory to be converted and I had to rewire all of the
arrays. So no, I don't think this can be done in the field.

William Miller

Miller Solar
17395 Oak Road, Atascadero, CA 93422
805-438-5600
www.millersolar.com [http://www.millersolar.com]
CA Lic. 773985


-Original Message-
From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org 
[mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org]] On
Behalf Of Jay
Sent: Monday, May 17, 2021 11:44 AM
To: RE-wrenches
Subject: [RE-wrenches] SMA SB 2500U

Does anyone know if you can convert a
SMA SB2500U ( old red inverter) from 208 to 240vac?

Without using a boost transformer.

Thx
Jay

Peltz power.


___
List sponsored by Redwood Alliance

Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org [http://re-wrenches.org]

List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org 
[mailto:RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org]

Change listserver email address & settings:
http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org 
[http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org]

There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the
other:
https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/ 
[https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/]
http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org 
[http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org]

List rules & etiquette:
http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm 
[http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm]

Check out or update participant bios:
http://www.members.re-wrenches.org [http://www.members.re-wrenches.org]
___
List sponsored by Redwood Alliance

Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org [http://re-wrenches.org]

List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org 
[mailto:RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org]

Change listserver email address & settings:
http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org 
[http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org]

There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the other:
https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/ 
[https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/]
http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org 
[http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org]

List rules & etiquette:
http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm 
[http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm]

Check out or update participant bios:
http://www.members.re-wrenches.org [http://www.members.re-wrenches.org]___
List sponsored by Redwood Alliance

Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org

List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org

Change listserver email address & settings:
http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org

There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the other:
https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches

Re: [RE-wrenches] SMA SB 2500U

2021-05-18 Thread louis 
Yes, these should only be used to get a grandfathered system back up and running(no ARC fault just GFDI) or a off-gridder that is not going to have any concerns...Oh, and back when we were doing these at SMA in the test area we had a "special" rom set that made this conversion from 240 to 208v easy.If one wants to go back to 240vac from a 208vac unit I use sunny data and re-program the AC window using Sunny Data and PC.Note; the data label should/needs to be be marked up to reflect what the Inverter actually is!I would not use a XFMR.Louis, RE Repair/Solar Cowboyz


 Original Message 
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] SMA SB 2500U
From: "Kirk Herander, VSE" 
Date: Tue, May 18, 2021 3:42 am
To: "" 

 These older Sunnyboys do not comply with latest UL standards regardless. If its a new installation, a savvy utility  / AHJ will catch this.Kirk Herander / kirkh@vermont.solarOwner|Principal, VT Solar, LLCCelebrating our 30th Anniversary 1991-2021!!www.vermont.solardba Vermont Solar Engineering802.863.1202 On 5/17/2021 3:53:26 PM, William Miller  wrote:Jay:  Some years ago I mis-ordered 5 SB2500s for 208 three phase and it turned out the system was 240 VAC three phase (open delta). I had to return the inverters to the factory to be converted and I had to rewire all of the arrays. So no, I don't think this can be done in the field.  William Miller  Miller Solar 17395 Oak Road, Atascadero, CA 93422 805-438-5600 www.millersolar.com CA Lic. 773985   -Original Message- From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Jay Sent: Monday, May 17, 2021 11:44 AM To: RE-wrenches Subject: [RE-wrenches] SMA SB 2500U  Does anyone know if you can convert a SMA SB2500U ( old red inverter) from 208 to 240vac?  Without using a boost transformer.  Thx Jay  Peltz power.   ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance  Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org  List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org  Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org  There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the other: https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/ http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org  List rules & etiquette: http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm  Check out or update participant bios: http://www.members.re-wrenches.org ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance  Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org  List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org  Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org  There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the other: https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/ http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org  List rules & etiquette: http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm  Check out or update participant bios: http://www.members.re-wrenches.org   ___
List sponsored by Redwood Alliance

Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org

List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org

Change listserver email address & settings:
http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org

There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the other:
https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/
http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org

List rules & etiquette:
http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm

Check out or update participant bios:
http://www.members.re-wrenches.org




___
List sponsored by Redwood Alliance

Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org

List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org

Change listserver email address & settings:
http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org

There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the other:
https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/
http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org

List rules & etiquette:
http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm

Check out or update participant bios:
http://www.members.re-wrenches.org

Re: [RE-wrenches] Ferrules crimps

2021-05-18 Thread August Goers 
Hi William,

Years ago we were buying ferrules and ferrule crimpers to deal with the
extra fine stranded conductors coming with microinverter trunk cabling at
the time. I think it was PowerOne / ABB. Anyway, if that's the type of
ferrules you need, we got them from ferrulesdirect.com.

Ferrule crimper FD2810HX - hexagonal profile crimping tool 28 to 10 AWG
N60012 - 10AWG ferrules
N40012 - 12AWG ferrules

This is not to be confused with the Ideal / Buchanan splice caps and
insulators being discussed on this list recently:
https://www.amazon.com/Ideal-145669-C24-Crimp-Tool/dp/B000HEKRWA/ref=asc_df_B000HEKRWA/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=198090983914&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=9042077521548131149&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9031951&hvtargid=pla-349901866765&psc=1

August

On Tue, May 18, 2021 at 2:41 PM William Miller 
wrote:

> Friends:
>
>
>
> Do any of you have a preferred make, model and supplier of ferrule crimps
> and crimp tool you would recommend?
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
>
>
> William Miller
>
>
>
> Miller Solar
>
> 17395 Oak Road, Atascadero, CA 93422
>
> 805-438-5600
>
> www.millersolar.com
>
> CA Lic. 773985
>
>
>
>
> ___
> List sponsored by Redwood Alliance
>
> Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org
>
> List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org
>
> Change listserver email address & settings:
> http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org
>
> There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the
> other:
> https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/
> http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org
>
> List rules & etiquette:
> http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm
>
> Check out or update participant bios:
> http://www.members.re-wrenches.org
>
>
___
List sponsored by Redwood Alliance

Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org

List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org

Change listserver email address & settings:
http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org

There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the other:
https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/
http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org

List rules & etiquette:
http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm

Check out or update participant bios:
http://www.members.re-wrenches.org

Re: [RE-wrenches] Ferrules crimps

2021-05-18 Thread Glenn Burt 
I have used Panduit insulated ferrules for over 30 years, long before I got to 
be a solar bozo!-GlennSent from my 'smart'phone, so please excuse typos and 
spelling errors.-- Original message--From: William MillerDate: Tue, May 
18, 2021 5:41 PMTo: RE-wrenches;Cc: Subject:[RE-wrenches] Ferrules 
crimpsFriends: Do any of you have a preferred make, model and supplier of 
ferrule crimps and crimp tool you would recommend? Thanks in advance, William 
Miller Miller Solar17395 Oak Road, Atascadero, CA 
93422805-438-5600www.millersolar.comCA Lic. 773985  ___
List sponsored by Redwood Alliance

Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org

List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org

Change listserver email address & settings:
http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org

There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the other:
https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/
http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org

List rules & etiquette:
http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm

Check out or update participant bios:
http://www.members.re-wrenches.org

Re: [RE-wrenches] Ferrules crimps

2021-05-18 Thread Luke Christy 
William, 
I have used various brands of both ferrules and crimp tools. Most of the 
ferrules I have used are German-made by the Weidmuller brand, these seem to be 
private labeled by Greenlee and others. Highly recommended. I’ve also had good 
luck with less expensive ferrules sold through various silly nonsense-brands on 
Amazon. 
I recently upgraded to a Rennsteig automatic crimping tool and it’s very smooth 
and nicely made. It adjusts automatically up to #6AWG, though one has to fiddle 
with the tension lever a little bit to keep from crimping too deeply on smaller 
ferrules.

Luke Christy
Renewable energy consultant

NABCEP Certified PV Installation Professional™: 

Solar Gain Services, LLC
PO Box 531
Monte Vista, CO 81144
sgsrenewab...@gmail.com
719.588.3044


> On May 18, 2021, at 15:41, William Miller  wrote:
> 
> 
> Friends:
>  
> Do any of you have a preferred make, model and supplier of ferrule crimps and 
> crimp tool you would recommend?
>  
> Thanks in advance,
>  
> William Miller
>  
> Miller Solar
> 17395 Oak Road, Atascadero, CA 93422
> 805-438-5600
> www.millersolar.com
> CA Lic. 773985
>  
>  
> ___
> List sponsored by Redwood Alliance
> 
> Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org
> 
> List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org
> 
> Change listserver email address & settings:
> http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org
> 
> There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the 
> other:
> https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/
> http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org
> 
> List rules & etiquette:
> http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm
> 
> Check out or update participant bios:
> http://www.members.re-wrenches.org
> 
___
List sponsored by Redwood Alliance

Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org

List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org

Change listserver email address & settings:
http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org

There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the other:
https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/
http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org

List rules & etiquette:
http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm

Check out or update participant bios:
http://www.members.re-wrenches.org

[RE-wrenches] Ferrules crimps

2021-05-18 Thread William Miller 
Friends:



Do any of you have a preferred make, model and supplier of ferrule crimps
and crimp tool you would recommend?



Thanks in advance,



William Miller



Miller Solar

17395 Oak Road, Atascadero, CA 93422

805-438-5600

www.millersolar.com

CA Lic. 773985
___
List sponsored by Redwood Alliance

Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org

List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org

Change listserver email address & settings:
http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org

There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the other:
https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/
http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org

List rules & etiquette:
http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm

Check out or update participant bios:
http://www.members.re-wrenches.org

Re: [RE-wrenches] SMA SB 2500U

2021-05-18 Thread Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar 


Probably if it is old it does not have these recent Certifications and
UL requirements. Just gave these to my local AHJ. 

IEEE 1547, UL 1741-SA,
Rule 21, Rule 14H, PREPA, and CSA 107.1 

Product Certification History
Project Date Description 80049402 2020-09-18 Update to report 70194014 to
meet grid support function according to CA Rule 21 for 120Vac output
configuration. 80036281 2020-03-15 Update report 70194014 to include UL1741
CRD SA17/18 UL 1741(California Rule 21 Phase 3 Function 2 and Function 3)
for Model XW Pro 6848 NA. 80020062 2019-10-30 Update report 70194014 to
include firmware upgrade for Model XW Pro 6848 NA. 70220117 2019-03-27
Update Report 70194014 to include minor firmware update for Model XW Pro
6848 NA. 70212688 2019-03-04 Update Report 70194014 to Include Volt-Watt
and revised Freq-Watt grid tie requirements as per UL1741 Supplement SA for
Model XW Pro 6848 NA (FGA 865-6848-21).  
Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar
"we
go where powerlines don't"
http://members.sti.net/offgridsolar/ [1]
e-mail
offgridso...@sti.net [2]
text 209 813 0060

On Tue, 18 May 2021 14:07:08
-0400, "Glenn Burt"  wrote:   

Hi Kirk, 

Can you elaborate on which UL
standards the older SB units don't comply with? 

-Glenn 

FROM:
RE-wrenches  ON BEHALF OF Kirk Herander, VSE
SENT: Tuesday, May 18, 2021
6:42 AM
TO: re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org
SUBJECT: Re: [RE-wrenches]
SMA SB 2500U  

These older Sunnyboys do not comply with latest UL
standards regardless. If its a new installation, a savvy utility / AHJ will
catch this.  

KIRK HERANDER /  

OWNER|PRINCIPAL, VT SOLAR, LLC


_CELEBRATING OUR 30TH ANNIVERSARY 1991-2021!!_ 

WWW.VERMONT.SOLAR [3]


dba Vermont Solar Engineering 

802.863.1202   

On 5/17/2021 3:53:26 PM,
William Miller  wrote:  

Jay: 

Some years ago I mis-ordered 5 SB2500s for
208 three phase and it turned 
out the system was 240 VAC three phase (open
delta). I had to return the 
inverters to the factory to be converted and I
had to rewire all of the 
arrays. So no, I don't think this can be done in
the field. 

William Miller 

Miller Solar 
17395 Oak Road, Atascadero, CA
93422 
805-438-5600 
www.millersolar.com [5] 
CA Lic. 773985


-Original Message- 
From: RE-wrenches
[mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [6]] On 
Behalf Of Jay

Sent: Monday, May 17, 2021 11:44 AM 
To: RE-wrenches 
Subject:
[RE-wrenches] SMA SB 2500U 

Does anyone know if you can convert a 
SMA
SB2500U ( old red inverter) from 208 to 240vac? 

Without using a boost
transformer. 

Thx 
Jay 

Peltz power.


___ 
List sponsored by
Redwood Alliance 

Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org
[7] 

List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org [8] 

Change
listserver email address & settings:

http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org [9]


There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the

other: 
https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/
[10] 
http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org
[11] 

List rules & etiquette: 
http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm
[12] 

Check out or update participant bios:

http://www.members.re-wrenches.org [13]

___ 
List sponsored by Redwood
Alliance 

Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org [14]


List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org [15] 

Change listserver
email address & settings:

http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org [16]


There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the
other: 
https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/
[17] 
http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org
[18] 

List rules & etiquette: 
http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm
[19] 

Check out or update participant bios:

http://www.members.re-wrenches.org [20] 

Links:
--
[1]
http://members.sti.net/offgridsolar/
[2] mailto:offgridso...@sti.net
[3]
https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.vermontsolarnow.com&data=02%7C01%7C%7C9f0330d75a244870112408d685311841%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636842843233477645&sdata=0NjyuKeQbEK6245SNnk8X4XnP9Q%2B%2BqtvcALkdDghvk4%3D&reserved=0
[4]
mailto:will...@millersolar.com
[5] http://www.millersolar.com
[6]
mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org
[7]
http://re-wrenches.org
[8] mailto:RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org
[9]
http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org
[10]
https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/
[11]
http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org
[12]
http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm
[13]
http://www.members.re-wrenches.org
[14] http://re-wrenches.org
[15]
mailto:RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org
[16]
http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org
[17]
https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.r

Re: [RE-wrenches] Integrating with Lightning Protection

2021-05-18 Thread Glenn Burt 
I would think the existing LPS, if as extensive as you suggest, would need to 
have its interconnections removed, and the LPS installer contracted to 
re-evaluate and re-install an LPS that also integrates the new array into its 
protection scheme.

I am assuming this is a commercial rooftop installation, not a residential, 
pitched roof one.

 

-Glenn

 

From: RE-wrenches  On Behalf Of 
Corey Shalanski
Sent: Monday, May 17, 2021 4:35 PM
To: re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org
Subject: [RE-wrenches] Integrating with Lightning Protection

 

Wrenches,

 

I see that this topic was discussed back in 2015 
  
and there were some excellent resources shared on how to electrically integrate 
PV arrays with existing lightning protection systems (LPS). I am curious if 
anyone has any advice about how to physically/mechanically integrate a 
commercial rooftop array with an LPS—particularly wondering what to do when we 
encounter a network or web of LPS cabling laid out across the roof. I am 
assuming we should not simply move the cabling without first consulting with 
the LPS contractor... Can a ballasted racking system viably be placed over top 
of the cabling? Can ballast bases be placed directly on top of the cabling? or 
be made to somehow span over or be elevated above the cabling? Or is this just 
a case where we need to limit the PV array to whatever areas of the roof offer 
the least interference/convergence with LPS cabling?

 

--

Corey Shalanski

Jah Light Solar

Portland, Jamaica

___
List sponsored by Redwood Alliance

Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org

List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org

Change listserver email address & settings:
http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org

There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the other:
https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/
http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org

List rules & etiquette:
http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm

Check out or update participant bios:
http://www.members.re-wrenches.org

Re: [RE-wrenches] SMA SB 2500U

2021-05-18 Thread Glenn Burt 
Hi Kirk,

 

Can you elaborate on which UL standards the older SB units don’t comply with?

 

-Glenn

 

From: RE-wrenches  On Behalf Of Kirk 
Herander, VSE
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2021 6:42 AM
To: re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] SMA SB 2500U

 

These older Sunnyboys do not comply with latest UL standards regardless. If its 
a new installation, a savvy utility  / AHJ will catch this.

 

Kirk Herander / kirkh@vermont.solar  

Owner|Principal, VT Solar, LLC

Celebrating our 30th Anniversary 1991-2021!!

 

 www.vermont.solar

dba Vermont Solar Engineering

802.863.1202

On 5/17/2021 3:53:26 PM, William Miller mailto:will...@millersolar.com> > wrote:

Jay: 

Some years ago I mis-ordered 5 SB2500s for 208 three phase and it turned 
out the system was 240 VAC three phase (open delta). I had to return the 
inverters to the factory to be converted and I had to rewire all of the 
arrays. So no, I don't think this can be done in the field. 

William Miller 

Miller Solar 
17395 Oak Road, Atascadero, CA 93422 
805-438-5600 
www.millersolar.com   
CA Lic. 773985 


-Original Message- 
From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On 
Behalf Of Jay 
Sent: Monday, May 17, 2021 11:44 AM 
To: RE-wrenches 
Subject: [RE-wrenches] SMA SB 2500U 

Does anyone know if you can convert a 
SMA SB2500U ( old red inverter) from 208 to 240vac? 

Without using a boost transformer. 

Thx 
Jay 

Peltz power. 


___ 
List sponsored by Redwood Alliance 

Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org 

List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org 
  

Change listserver email address & settings: 
http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org 

There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the 
other: 
https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/ 
http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org 

List rules & etiquette: 
http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm 

Check out or update participant bios: 
http://www.members.re-wrenches.org 
___ 
List sponsored by Redwood Alliance 

Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org 

List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org 
  

Change listserver email address & settings: 
http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org 

There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the 
other: 
https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/ 
http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org 

List rules & etiquette: 
http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm 

Check out or update participant bios: 
http://www.members.re-wrenches.org 

___
List sponsored by Redwood Alliance

Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org

List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org

Change listserver email address & settings:
http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org

There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the other:
https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/
http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org

List rules & etiquette:
http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm

Check out or update participant bios:
http://www.members.re-wrenches.org

Re: [RE-wrenches] OutBack Inverters

2021-05-18 Thread John Blittersdorf 
Dave,
   An Alternate solution might be to find two good used VFX3524's.  All
circuit boards are available from Zonna if they need repair.  I have one if
you could find another somewhere.
Contact me off list if interested.

John Blittersdorf

NABCEP Certified Solar PV Installer™



CV Wind Service (and solar)

200 West Road

N Chittenden, VT 05763

802-770-8625

www.offgridvermont.com

On Mon, May 17, 2021 at 4:18 PM  wrote:

> I am considering swapping in new OutBack inverters into one of my
> neighborhoods 24V off grid systems. It now has two FX2524’s. The demands on
> the system have grown, now a two family home with a 240Vac mini-split for
> air conditioning and a 240Vac Grundfos SQ 1/2hp sub pump to be added this
> summer to the system. Drilling a well for a back-up to the gravity fed
> spring water which has been getting too low during the past few summers.
>
> I’m assuming that I should go with two VFXR3524’s.
>
> Will this be a direct swap in as far as having the same wiring setup into
> an OutBack Flexware system? And will it work with an older Mate?
>
> Anything else I should know about these OutBack “R” inverters?
>
>
>
> Dave Palumbo
>
> Hyde Park, VT
> ___
> List sponsored by Redwood Alliance
>
> Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org
>
> List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org
>
> Change listserver email address & settings:
> http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org
>
> There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the
> other:
> https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/
> http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org
>
> List rules & etiquette:
> http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm
>
> Check out or update participant bios:
> http://www.members.re-wrenches.org
>
>
___
List sponsored by Redwood Alliance

Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org

List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org

Change listserver email address & settings:
http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org

There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the other:
https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/
http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org

List rules & etiquette:
http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm

Check out or update participant bios:
http://www.members.re-wrenches.org

Re: [RE-wrenches] SMA SB 2500U

2021-05-18 Thread Kirk Herander, VSE 
These older Sunnyboys do not comply with latest UL standards regardless. If its 
a new installation, a savvy utility  / AHJ will catch this.


Kirk Herander / kirkh@vermont.solar [mailto:kirkh@vermont.solar]
Owner|Principal, VT Solar, LLC
Celebrating our 30th Anniversary 1991-2021!!
www.vermont.solar 
[https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.vermontsolarnow.com&data=02%7C01%7C%7C9f0330d75a244870112408d685311841%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636842843233477645&sdata=0NjyuKeQbEK6245SNnk8X4XnP9Q%2B%2BqtvcALkdDghvk4%3D&reserved=0]
dba Vermont Solar Engineering
802.863.1202

On 5/17/2021 3:53:26 PM, William Miller  wrote:
Jay:

Some years ago I mis-ordered 5 SB2500s for 208 three phase and it turned
out the system was 240 VAC three phase (open delta). I had to return the
inverters to the factory to be converted and I had to rewire all of the
arrays. So no, I don't think this can be done in the field.

William Miller

Miller Solar
17395 Oak Road, Atascadero, CA 93422
805-438-5600
www.millersolar.com
CA Lic. 773985


-Original Message-
From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On
Behalf Of Jay
Sent: Monday, May 17, 2021 11:44 AM
To: RE-wrenches
Subject: [RE-wrenches] SMA SB 2500U

Does anyone know if you can convert a
SMA SB2500U ( old red inverter) from 208 to 240vac?

Without using a boost transformer.

Thx
Jay

Peltz power.


___
List sponsored by Redwood Alliance

Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org

List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org

Change listserver email address & settings:
http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org

There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the
other:
https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/
http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org

List rules & etiquette:
http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm

Check out or update participant bios:
http://www.members.re-wrenches.org
___
List sponsored by Redwood Alliance

Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org

List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org

Change listserver email address & settings:
http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org

There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the other:
https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/
http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org

List rules & etiquette:
http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm

Check out or update participant bios:
http://www.members.re-wrenches.org

___
List sponsored by Redwood Alliance

Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org

List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org

Change listserver email address & settings:
http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org

There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the other:
https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/
http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org

List rules & etiquette:
http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm

Check out or update participant bios:
http://www.members.re-wrenches.org