Re: [RE-wrenches] Looking for remote controlled contactors

2022-10-11 Thread Jason Szumlanski via RE-wrenches 
I'm not a fan of this strategy because it is not failsafe. Contactors fail.
When the coil fails to open the contactor, you will have the PV AC coupled
with the generator If he normally closed contactor is used in this manner.

I think the question needs to be the converse: How do you turn the PV on
remotely only when the generator is not running.

Jason Szumlanski
Florida Solar Design Group





On Tue, Oct 11, 2022, 2:45 PM Maverick Brown via RE-wrenches <
re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote:

> I’ll usually use  a 60 amp contactor with 240Vac coil.
>
> The generator powers the coil and opens the Normally Closed contacts
> disconnecting the grid tie inverter.
>
> Maverick Brown
> Off-Grid Solar Commander since 2006
> *Maverick Solar Enterprises, Inc.*
> * • Solar Commander Remote Power*
>
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>
>
> On Oct 11, 2022, at 11:26 AM, Kirk Herander via RE-wrenches <
> re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote:
>
> Hi,
> I’m looking for suggestions on a remote control 60 amp contactor. It can
> either be true wireless or send a signal down an AC power line to open /
> close contact at the other end.
>
> I’m trying to figure out a non-wired way to turn an AC coupled inverter
> off when the generator is running, as advised by outback and others.
>
> All suggestions welcome thank you.
> --
>
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>
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Looking for remote controlled contactors

2022-10-11 Thread Maverick Brown via RE-wrenches 
I’ll usually use  a 60 amp contactor with 240Vac coil. 

The generator powers the coil and opens the Normally Closed contacts 
disconnecting the grid tie inverter. 

Maverick Brown
Off-Grid Solar Commander since 2006
Maverick Solar Enterprises, Inc.
 • Solar Commander Remote Power
 • SunFlow Systems Cathodic Protection 
maver...@mavericksolar.com
512-460-9825


> On Oct 11, 2022, at 11:26 AM, Kirk Herander via RE-wrenches 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> I’m looking for suggestions on a remote control 60 amp contactor. It can 
> either be true wireless or send a signal down an AC power line to open / 
> close contact at the other end.
> 
> I’m trying to figure out a non-wired way to turn an AC coupled inverter off 
> when the generator is running, as advised by outback and others.
> 
> All suggestions welcome thank you.
> -- 
> Kirk Herander / kirkh@vermont.solar
> Owner|Principal, VT Solar, LLC
> Celebrating our 31st Anniversary 1991-2022!!
> www.vermont.solar
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[RE-wrenches] Looking for remote controlled contactors

2022-10-11 Thread Kirk Herander via RE-wrenches 
Hi,
I’m looking for suggestions on a remote control 60 amp contactor. It can
either be true wireless or send a signal down an AC power line to open /
close contact at the other end.

I’m trying to figure out a non-wired way to turn an AC coupled inverter off
when the generator is running, as advised by outback and others.

All suggestions welcome thank you.
-- 

*Kirk Herander / **kirkh@vermont.solar *

*Owner|Principal, VT Solar, LLC*

*Celebrating our 31st Anniversary 1991-2022!!*

*www.vermont.solar*


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Re: [RE-wrenches] HomeGrid batteries

2022-10-11 Thread Lou Russo via RE-wrenches 
That was a bit of a cavalier statement on my part. On paper the tech specs
look good.
The warranty (60% after ten years or 3650 cycles) and initial track record
is what I think is mediocre. .
I guess in comparison to Blue Planet most battery warranties look mediocre.

Aloha,

Lou Russo
(808) 345 6762



On Tue, Oct 11, 2022 at 3:09 AM Bradley Bassett  wrote:

> I'm curious what you consider mediocre about the HomeGrid?
>
> Brad
>
> On Mon, Oct 10, 2022 at 7:07 PM Lou Russo via RE-wrenches <
> re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote:
>
>> Aloha All,
>>
>> I am considering doing a job with one of these (14kWH) with a Sol-Ark
>> 12kW for a client who is demanding them. Anyone have any recent
>> experience with them?
>> The price is good but all else is pretty mediocre.
>>
>> Aloha,
>>
>> Lou Russo
>> (808) 345 6762
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 18, 2022 at 4:46 PM Jerry Shafer via RE-wrenches <
>> re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote:
>>
>>> The cycle life sounds good the warranty cycle for off grid is far less
>>> than blue planet and fortress. If you compare the fortress x 2, 18.5's with
>>> a better warranty it comes out cheaper. I do see a display but l only see
>>> volts. Pretty low surge, is there US warranty administration?  Good luck,
>>>
>>> On Thu, Aug 18, 2022, 6:24 PM Kirpal via RE-wrenches <
>>> re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote:
>>>
 Hi Yall!
 Anyone used HomeGrid batteries? We are just getting ready to pair them
 with some Outback and Sol Ark systems..  They have a compelling price, form
 and feature set.
 Hoping to hear of any issues before we jump in too deep with them..
 100 thanks for any thoughts!
 Cheers.
 Kirpal
 Oregon Solarworks

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[RE-wrenches] Megger Recommendations

2022-10-11 Thread Sam Haraldson via RE-wrenches 
Wrenches,

In order to step up our commissioning and testing game and to take
proactive steps to spot isolation faults and test insulation resistance
prior to our systems getting PTO it is time to invest in a Megger.  I am
looking for your recommendations for being able to test both AC (single and
three phase) and DC (600 to 1000 Vdc) conductors in a wide range of sizes
typical to both residential and commercial systems.  Ideally the equipment
has the option to test to either bare copper or use MC4 leads.

Am I foolish to look for a single unit that tests both AC and DC or should
I focus on two pieces of equipment?  What is your experience with
insulation resistance testing through RSDs, MLPEs, and modules?  Are there
brands that specifically state this is a no-go?  Are there testers that can
assist in providing a percentage from + or - to help point out the trouble
spot or am I only going to find string-level detail?

Any recommendations

Sam Haraldson 
Installation & Service Manager


m. (406) 249-6841 | o. (406) 551-6135






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Re: [RE-wrenches] Shipping costs

2022-10-11 Thread William Miller via RE-wrenches 
Kirpal:

Rail is actually more likely to be damaged. It’s hard to find pallets long
enough and the ends get dinged by forks. I got insurance for $50 and
ordered a couple extra.

William



On Tue, Oct 11, 2022 at 6:56 AM Kirpal via RE-wrenches <
re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote:

> One down side to arranging your own shipping is that you are also usually
> shifting the responsibility for any damage upon yourself to deal with in
> case you need to make a claim..  Whereas if your distributor ships it they
> are responsible for the claim process.  Chunks of metal like many racking
> systems might be less risky to ship as they are a bit harder to damage than
> solar modules or other electronics.You might choose which shipments you
> ship or choose to have shipped.   But yes, shipping prices have gone wonky
> in some cases!
>
> Sunny Regards,
> Kirpal Khalsa
> Oregon LRT#25
> Oregon Solarworks LLC
> www.oregonsolarworks.com
> 541-299-0402
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 10, 2022 at 3:48 PM Dana Orzel via RE-wrenches <
> re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote:
>
>> Most of our hot shot deliveries have been running $2,400, Bay area -
>> Central Idaho thru a broker for our thermal collectors.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Dana Orzel -  E - d...@solarwork.com -  C - 208.721.7003
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* RE-wrenches  *On
>> Behalf Of *Maverick Brown via RE-wrenches
>> *Sent:* Monday, October 10, 2022 3:14 PM
>> *To:* will...@millersolar.com; RE-wrenches <
>> re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org>
>> *Cc:* Maverick Brown 
>> *Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] Shipping costs
>>
>>
>>
>> William,
>>
>>
>>
>> $4200 sounds like “Expedited” Shipping and that usually means a Hot Shot
>> driver with single pickup truck and trailer driving door to door for just
>> your items.  LTL should never be $4200 unless we are in dire conditions.
>>
>>
>>
>> I hope your items arrive in excellent condition!!
>>
>>
>>
>> Maverick
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Maverick Brown
>> Off-Grid Solar Commander since 2006
>> *Maverick Solar Enterprises, Inc.*
>>
>> * • Solar Commander Remote Power*
>>
>>
>> * • SunFlow Systems Cathodic Protection *maver...@mavericksolar.com
>> 512-460-9825
>>
>>
>>
>> On Oct 10, 2022, at 2:06 PM, William Miller via RE-wrenches <
>> re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Friends:
>>
>>
>>
>> I am sure all of you are aware of the skyrocketing costs for shipping.  I
>> get it that fuel prices are up and I want truckers to all earn a fair
>> wage.  However I can help but feel there might be some gouging.  For
>> instance, a $900 order for rail was quoted at $4,200 for shipping from
>> Oregon to the central coast of California.
>>
>>
>>
>> Fortunately the vendor allowed me to arrange my own shipping.  I used a
>> website called Shiply and got a quote for just over $600 for the same
>> order.  The company I engaged, Globaltranz has been great in communicating
>> concisely and promptly with me and the vendor.
>>
>>
>>
>> I think the beauty of using a broker is you can connect with shippers
>> that might be travelling the desired route already and can fit your order
>> into an LTL rig already on the road.
>>
>>
>>
>> The order is not here yet but it is on the way and it appears the transit
>> is on time.
>>
>>
>>
>> I hope this helps some of you in procuring the parts you need in a timely
>> and cost efficient manner.
>>
>>
>>
>> William
>>
>>
>>
>> Miller Solar
>>
>> 17395 Oak Road, Atascadero, CA 93422
>>
>> 805-438-5600
>>
>> www.millersolar.com
>>
>> CA Lic. 773985
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Shipping costs

2022-10-11 Thread Kirpal via RE-wrenches 
One down side to arranging your own shipping is that you are also usually
shifting the responsibility for any damage upon yourself to deal with in
case you need to make a claim..  Whereas if your distributor ships it they
are responsible for the claim process.  Chunks of metal like many racking
systems might be less risky to ship as they are a bit harder to damage than
solar modules or other electronics.You might choose which shipments you
ship or choose to have shipped.   But yes, shipping prices have gone wonky
in some cases!

Sunny Regards,
Kirpal Khalsa
Oregon LRT#25
Oregon Solarworks LLC
www.oregonsolarworks.com
541-299-0402


On Mon, Oct 10, 2022 at 3:48 PM Dana Orzel via RE-wrenches <
re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote:

> Most of our hot shot deliveries have been running $2,400, Bay area -
> Central Idaho thru a broker for our thermal collectors.
>
>
>
>
>
> Dana Orzel -  E - d...@solarwork.com -  C - 208.721.7003
>
>
>
> *From:* RE-wrenches  *On
> Behalf Of *Maverick Brown via RE-wrenches
> *Sent:* Monday, October 10, 2022 3:14 PM
> *To:* will...@millersolar.com; RE-wrenches <
> re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org>
> *Cc:* Maverick Brown 
> *Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] Shipping costs
>
>
>
> William,
>
>
>
> $4200 sounds like “Expedited” Shipping and that usually means a Hot Shot
> driver with single pickup truck and trailer driving door to door for just
> your items.  LTL should never be $4200 unless we are in dire conditions.
>
>
>
> I hope your items arrive in excellent condition!!
>
>
>
> Maverick
>
>
>
>
>
> Maverick Brown
> Off-Grid Solar Commander since 2006
> *Maverick Solar Enterprises, Inc.*
>
> * • Solar Commander Remote Power*
>
>
> * • SunFlow Systems Cathodic Protection *maver...@mavericksolar.com
> 512-460-9825
>
>
>
> On Oct 10, 2022, at 2:06 PM, William Miller via RE-wrenches <
> re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote:
>
>
>
> Friends:
>
>
>
> I am sure all of you are aware of the skyrocketing costs for shipping.  I
> get it that fuel prices are up and I want truckers to all earn a fair
> wage.  However I can help but feel there might be some gouging.  For
> instance, a $900 order for rail was quoted at $4,200 for shipping from
> Oregon to the central coast of California.
>
>
>
> Fortunately the vendor allowed me to arrange my own shipping.  I used a
> website called Shiply and got a quote for just over $600 for the same
> order.  The company I engaged, Globaltranz has been great in communicating
> concisely and promptly with me and the vendor.
>
>
>
> I think the beauty of using a broker is you can connect with shippers that
> might be travelling the desired route already and can fit your order into
> an LTL rig already on the road.
>
>
>
> The order is not here yet but it is on the way and it appears the transit
> is on time.
>
>
>
> I hope this helps some of you in procuring the parts you need in a timely
> and cost efficient manner.
>
>
>
> William
>
>
>
> Miller Solar
>
> 17395 Oak Road, Atascadero, CA 93422
>
> 805-438-5600
>
> www.millersolar.com
>
> CA Lic. 773985
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [RE-wrenches] HomeGrid batteries

2022-10-11 Thread Bradley Bassett via RE-wrenches 
I'm curious what you consider mediocre about the HomeGrid?

Brad

On Mon, Oct 10, 2022 at 7:07 PM Lou Russo via RE-wrenches <
re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote:

> Aloha All,
>
> I am considering doing a job with one of these (14kWH) with a Sol-Ark 12kW
> for a client who is demanding them. Anyone have any recent experience with
> them?
> The price is good but all else is pretty mediocre.
>
> Aloha,
>
> Lou Russo
> (808) 345 6762
>
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 18, 2022 at 4:46 PM Jerry Shafer via RE-wrenches <
> re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote:
>
>> The cycle life sounds good the warranty cycle for off grid is far less
>> than blue planet and fortress. If you compare the fortress x 2, 18.5's with
>> a better warranty it comes out cheaper. I do see a display but l only see
>> volts. Pretty low surge, is there US warranty administration?  Good luck,
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 18, 2022, 6:24 PM Kirpal via RE-wrenches <
>> re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Yall!
>>> Anyone used HomeGrid batteries? We are just getting ready to pair them
>>> with some Outback and Sol Ark systems..  They have a compelling price, form
>>> and feature set.
>>> Hoping to hear of any issues before we jump in too deep with them..
>>> 100 thanks for any thoughts!
>>> Cheers.
>>> Kirpal
>>> Oregon Solarworks
>>>
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