Re: [RE-wrenches] Wind machines

2023-08-17 Thread Ray Walters via RE-wrenches 
I've watched VAWT pop up like its a new idea every few years for almost 
the past 50 years.  VAWT is just basically a bad idea, as it's trying to 
make usable power too close to the ground.  I've never seen any that 
lasted very long, or matched their power claims.


It can however be Kinetic art, which is what many folks find attractive, 
I think.


Ray Walters

On 8/17/2023 1:41 PM, Jay via RE-wrenches wrote:

Im curious if anyone has actual measured data on a VAWT.

It just seems like they are meat for the end of the worlders

Jay


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Re: [RE-wrenches] Wind machines

2023-08-17 Thread Roy Butler via RE-wrenches 
That Superwind is a good turbine, has a good track record but it's a bit 
spendy for the size.
They have targeted the commercial field and are doing well with the 
railroad and oil and gas industry.


I tend to forget about it so I hadn't mentioned it before.

As for VAWTs, there are still no commercially viable models on the 
market today. They have a terrible track record.
They look cool, tend to be installed on college campuses and other 
highly visible locations, so the general public

thinks that they must be good.

What has been seen cannot be unseen!

Roy Butler
Four Winds Renewable Energy, LLC
8902 Route 46, Arkport, NY 14807
607-324-9747www.four-winds-energy.com

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On 8/17/2023 2:49 PM, Dan Fink via RE-wrenches wrote:
Jay, as Roy mentioned, the small wind situation in the 1-2 kW range 
right now is pretty grim - Tons of awful imported products with vastly 
inflated "ratings" flooding the market on Amazon, Ebay and AliBaba. I 
was particularly impressed (NOT) by a 900mm diameter VAWT that seems 
very popular thererated at 8000 watts! (face palm).


There's the Superwind 1250 out of Germany that looks legit: 
https://www.superwind.com/superwind-1250/


The AirForce 1 out of the UK looks possibly legit, though with 1.8m 
rotor they are counting on a cP of 0.33, which seems kinda high to me.

https://futurenergy.co.uk/feshop/airforce-1-wind-turbines/

I have no experience with actually flying these products however.

Good luck! Solar is cheap but boring!

Dan Fink
Owner, Buckville Energy Consulting LLC
IREC Certified Instructor for PV and Small Wind Installation
NABCEP Certified PV System Inspector
NABCEP PV Associate
d anbo...@gmail.com
970-672-4342



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Hi all

Is anyone making a good quality 1-2kw wind machine?

All of my searches come up with nothing.

Thanks in advance
Jay
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Wind machines

2023-08-17 Thread Jay via RE-wrenches 
Im curious if anyone has actual measured data on a VAWT. It just seems like they are meat for the end of the worldersJayOn Aug 17, 2023, at 12:50 PM, Dan Fink via RE-wrenches  wrote:Jay, as Roy mentioned, the small wind situation in the 1-2 kW range right now is pretty grim - Tons of awful imported products with vastly inflated "ratings" flooding the market on Amazon, Ebay and AliBaba. I was particularly impressed (NOT) by a 900mm diameter VAWT that seems very popular thererated at 8000 watts! (face palm).There's the Superwind 1250 out of Germany that looks legit: https://www.superwind.com/superwind-1250/The AirForce 1 out of the UK looks possibly legit, though with 1.8m rotor they are counting on a cP of 0.33, which seems kinda high to me.https://futurenergy.co.uk/feshop/airforce-1-wind-turbines/I have no experience with actually flying these products however.Good luck! Solar is cheap but boring!Dan FinkOwner, Buckville Energy Consulting LLCIREC Certified Instructor for PV and Small Wind InstallationNABCEP Certified PV System InspectorNABCEP PV Associatedanbo...@gmail.com970-672-4342 On Thu, Aug 17, 2023 at 9:11 AM Jay via RE-wrenches  wrote:Hi all

Is anyone making a good quality 1-2kw wind machine?

All of my searches come up with nothing. 

Thanks in advance 
Jay
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[RE-wrenches] 1-2KW windturbine

2023-08-17 Thread pieter offgridenterprises.org via RE-wrenches 
For those of you looking for a viable small wind turbine the Superwind might be 
worth consideration.
I have no field experience with the Superwind products but have seen them in 
person. The craftsmanship is outstanding, and the system certainly appears to 
be designed and built to survive the elements.
https://www.superwind.com/superwind-1250/


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Re: [RE-wrenches] Wind machines

2023-08-17 Thread Dan Fink via RE-wrenches 
Jay, as Roy mentioned, the small wind situation in the 1-2 kW range right
now is pretty grim - Tons of awful imported products with vastly inflated
"ratings" flooding the market on Amazon, Ebay and AliBaba. I was
particularly impressed (NOT) by a 900mm diameter VAWT that seems very
popular thererated at 8000 watts! (face palm).

There's the Superwind 1250 out of Germany that looks legit:
https://www.superwind.com/superwind-1250/

The AirForce 1 out of the UK looks possibly legit, though with 1.8m rotor
they are counting on a cP of 0.33, which seems kinda high to me.
https://futurenergy.co.uk/feshop/airforce-1-wind-turbines/

I have no experience with actually flying these products however.

Good luck! Solar is cheap but boring!

Dan Fink
Owner, Buckville Energy Consulting LLC
IREC Certified Instructor for PV and Small Wind Installation
NABCEP Certified PV System Inspector
NABCEP PV Associate
d anbo...@gmail.com
970-672-4342




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> Hi all
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> Is anyone making a good quality 1-2kw wind machine?
>
> All of my searches come up with nothing.
>
> Thanks in advance
> Jay
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Wind machines

2023-08-17 Thread John Blittersdorf via RE-wrenches 
Jay and Roy,
   Join me on my crusade to get the PIKA T701 back into production.
It was the best I ever owned but had to sell it to a customer when
PIKA stopped production.
Still lots of their 100 units produced are out there somewhere. I just
found one currently running
 in a very poor wind site that the owner is willing to sell.  I can't
wait to get it back on my tower!
Specs are still found on NAZ website.  Google PIKA T701

John Blittersdorf



On Thu, Aug 17, 2023 at 12:04 PM Jay via RE-wrenches
 wrote:
>
> Yeah just kinda of sad they are gone.
>
> Like others, a friend called looking to replace a very old whisper power.
>
> Ok more solar it is.
>
> Thx
> Jay
>
>
>
> On Aug 17, 2023, at 9:51 AM, Roy Butler via RE-wrenches 
>  wrote:
>
>  Good luck with that search Jay.
>
> Most of the companies that manufactured machines in that size range went out 
> of business quite some time ago.
> Unfortunately, lots of low quality equipment has filled that void.buyer 
> beware!
>
>
> Roy Butler
> Four Winds Renewable Energy, LLC
> 8902 Route 46, Arkport, NY 14807
> 607-324-9747  www.four-winds-energy.com
>
> Education is when you read the fine print; experience is what you get when 
> you don’t.
>
> “The less people know, the more stubbornly they know it.”
>
> Although no trees were killed in the sending of this message,
> a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.
>
>
>
> On 8/17/2023 11:09 AM, Jay via RE-wrenches wrote:
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> Hi all
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> Is anyone making a good quality 1-2kw wind machine?
>
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>
> Thanks in advance
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Wind machines

2023-08-17 Thread Jay via RE-wrenches 
Yeah just kinda of sad they are gone. Like others, a friend called looking to replace a very old whisper power. Ok more solar it is. ThxJayOn Aug 17, 2023, at 9:51 AM, Roy Butler via RE-wrenches  wrote:

  

  
  
Good luck with that search Jay. 
  
  Most of the companies that manufactured machines in that size
  range went out of business quite some time ago.
  Unfortunately, lots of low quality equipment has filled that
  void.buyer beware!
  
  

Roy Butler
Four Winds Renewable Energy, LLC
8902 Route 46, Arkport, NY 14807
607-324-9747  www.four-winds-energy.com

Education is when you read the fine print; experience is what you get when you don’t.

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On 8/17/2023 11:09 AM, Jay via
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  Hi all

Is anyone making a good quality 1-2kw wind machine?

All of my searches come up with nothing. 

Thanks in advance 
Jay
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Wind machines

2023-08-17 Thread Roy Butler via RE-wrenches 

Good luck with that search Jay.

Most of the companies that manufactured machines in that size range went 
out of business quite some time ago.
Unfortunately, lots of low quality equipment has filled that 
void.buyer beware!



Roy Butler
Four Winds Renewable Energy, LLC
8902 Route 46, Arkport, NY 14807
607-324-9747www.four-winds-energy.com

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Hi all

Is anyone making a good quality 1-2kw wind machine?

All of my searches come up with nothing.

Thanks in advance
Jay
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[RE-wrenches] Wind machines

2023-08-17 Thread Jay via RE-wrenches 
Hi all

Is anyone making a good quality 1-2kw wind machine?

All of my searches come up with nothing. 

Thanks in advance 
Jay
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