[RE-wrenches] Looking for Alternative 2-pole Breaker for Square D Homeline

[Gregory Seelhorst]

Obi-Wrench Kenobis -

In Southern CA we are finding it more and more challenging to find reliable
sources of Square D *HOMELINE* 2-pole breakers for Solar Circuit and
Monitoring tie-ins.

Other than buying Homeline Single-Pole Breakers and using Handle-Ties, does
anyone have an alternative or reliable vendor source (online or brick &
mortar), or 2-pole breaker manufacturer accepted by Square D?
I know Eaton says their breakers are 'compatible' ("Notes: Replacement for
Square D Homeline") , but not sure if anyone has sought exceptions by
Schneider or had issues with Inspectors or Electricians for New Home
Construction who don't allow Eaton breakers in their Square D panels.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwi5i-f_l_3sAhUKQ60KHRl9AK0QFjABegQIAhAC&url=http%3A%2F%2Fpe.eaton.com%2Fprint%2FCL220&usg=AOvVaw09s9thehkBFMFpDJvT5J82


Regards,


Greg Seelhorst

Cedar Park, Tx
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Optimal 200 or 225 Amp Square D MSP All-in-One meter for CT Clamps

[Gregory Seelhorst]

Thank you for your contributions.  The meter/main Combo is the preferred
solution here.   I do like the Milbank solution with longer Feeders.

Has anyone used the SC816F200PS Square D all-in-one?
Square D (Schneider) is advertising this as a "Homeline Solar-ready
Combination Service Entrance" where it can accomodate CTs.

Greg Seelhorst
NABCEP PV Installation Professional #092907-16



On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 2:39 PM, Dave Tedeyan  wrote:

> It is not Square D, but a Milbank U5168-XTL-200 would do the trick.
>
> Cheers,
> Dave
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> On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 3:31 PM, Patrick A. Shortell  > wrote:
>
>> Hi Gregory
>> If your installing a new load center
>> Try inserting a 2" "C" condulet
>> Ahead of the service panel
>> I'm assuming pvc conduit from meter to panel
>> Install solid core 200:5 ct's while you pull your cable through
>> Route the ct leads into the panel along with the phase conductors
>> Or if you have a meter main
>> Most have bolted buss connections that you can open and if you stagger
>> the ct's and support them with a few cable ties
>> That could work
>> But
>> Your meter probably requires voltage sense and meter power conductors so
>> nippling the meter to the panel might be a better solution just so you
>> don't have to install additional oc protection in the meter main
>> Which might be sketchy
>> Hope I understood your question
>> Pat
>>
>> Patrick A. Shortell
>> Licensed Master Electrician
>> Certified Solar Installer
>> 71 Oregon Street
>> Long Beach N.Y. 11561
>> Www.thesolarstorehouse.com <http://www.thesolarstorehouse.com>
>>
>>
>> On Feb 17, 2016, at 2:29 PM, jerrysgarage01 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Can you get a meter main with only one breaker and then get a
>> distribution panel and put all all loads there
>>
>>
>> Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S™ III, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone
>>
>>
>>  Original message 
>> From: Gregory Seelhorst
>> Date:02/17/2016 6:23 AM (GMT-10:00)
>> To: RE-wrenches
>> Subject: [RE-wrenches] Optimal 200 or 225 Amp Square D MSP All-in-One
>> meter for CT Clamps
>>
>> Wrenches -
>>
>> Does anyone know of a good spec for a 200 or 225A Square D Main Service
>> Panel which has feeders between the meter and Main Disconnect and would be
>> ideal for 150A CT clamps for monitoring whole house consumption?
>>
>> I'm finding most MSPs have a short, flat bus between the meter and Main
>> Disconnect which requires the Rigowski Coil (requiring more expensive and
>> unreliable hardware).
>>
>> Thank you for your help in advance.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Greg Seelhorst
>> NABCEP PV Installation Professional #092907-16
>>
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[RE-wrenches] Optimal 200 or 225 Amp Square D MSP All-in-One meter for CT Clamps

[Gregory Seelhorst]

Wrenches -

Does anyone know of a good spec for a 200 or 225A Square D Main Service
Panel which has feeders between the meter and Main Disconnect and would be
ideal for 150A CT clamps for monitoring whole house consumption?

I'm finding most MSPs have a short, flat bus between the meter and Main
Disconnect which requires the Rigowski Coil (requiring more expensive and
unreliable hardware).

Thank you for your help in advance.

Regards,

Greg Seelhorst
NABCEP PV Installation Professional #092907-16
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback customer service???

[Gregory Seelhorst]

I've seen Phil Undercuffler mentioned in this group who worked there last I
know.

Greg
On Dec 8, 2015 2:22 PM, "Dana"  wrote:

> Same here is some one on line from Outback following this? Comment?
>
>
> 
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> -Original Message-
> From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On
> Behalf Of penobscotso...@midmaine.com
> Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 12:54 PM
> To: RE-wrenches
> Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Outback customer service???
>
> I too have been frustrated with Outback tech support. I have sat on hold
> for as long as 40 minutes before anyone picked up. I have suggested they
> have a "dealers only" line and as any good customer support person would,
> they empathized with me..One tech actually told me the majority of
> their callers were dealers. I think this speaks to the added problem
> battery based systems and so many new dealers installing them has brought
> to the industry, but I still feel Outback is doing a disservice to us
> all..
>
>
>
> > HI Larry;
> >
> > I second your suggestion that dealers have a separate, expedited
> > contact line that reaches someone with a higher level of expertise.
> > 1) We're repeat customers, and their front line sales team.
> > 2) We're not going to call unless its something trickier to figure out.
> > This has been a long term problem with several of the manufacturers.
> >
> > R.Ray Walters
> > CTO, Solarray, Inc
> > Nabcep Certified PV Installer,
> > Licensed Master Electrician
> > Solar Design Engineer
> > 303 505-8760
> >
> > On 12/8/2015 10:59 AM, Starlight Solar Power Systems wrote:
> >> Jay, Thats just nuts!
> >>
> >> I have long wondered why companies like this don’t separate customer
> >> service to “professionals” or "dealers” who are promoting, selling
> >> and installing their products from the “consumers” that bought the
> >> product online and may not have even read the manual. We, the
> >> wrenches, should have our own contact number or person.
> >>
> >> I did receive a voice mail from Outback (thank-you) now I am trying
> >> to reach them again to actually place a parts order.
> >>
> >> Larry
> >>
> >> On Dec 8, 2015, at 9:50 AM, jay  >> > wrote:
> >>
> >> tech support is
> >> 360-618-4363
> >>
> >> don’t leave a message unless you can wait for a few weeks.
> >>
> >> jay
> >>> On Dec 8, 2015, at 8:46 AM, Starlight Solar Power Systems
> >>> mailto:la...@starlightsolar.com>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Does anyone know how to reach Outback customer service? I have
> >>> called, waited and left messages and emailed them with no response.
> >>>
> >>> Thank you,
> >>>
> >>> Larry
> >>>
> >>>
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Re: [RE-wrenches] TL Inverters & Rapid Shutdown

[Gregory Seelhorst]

Wrenches -

I wanted to bring up the topic of SMA TL inverters, SPS outlets, and Rapid
Shutdown function.   In light of some AHJs where the 2014 NEC is already in
effect, I would appreciate how anyone has insight on how to address the
topics below:

*Re: SPS integrated outlet* - Citing 2014 NEC 690.61 and 690.10(B), is
there any resistance to SMA's Technical paper on the topic (
http://files.sma.de/dl/18726/EPS-US-TB-en-11.pdf) and what is being done to
appease them or make corrections any notices.

Also would appreciate if you have suggestions on warning placards (to the
effect of ‘this outlet only works when the switch is in the ‘ON’ position,
inverter will not backfeed in the ‘OFF’ position), please contact me
off-line if you like.

*Re: Rapid Shutdown function* – Regarding the new Rapid Shutdown capability
function (http://files.sma.de/dl/18726/EPSCompl-US-TB-en-14W.pdf) which
complies with 690.12; Question, *can or must this be used in conjunction
with the SPS?*  Just wanted clarification of this functionality.

My understanding is that if other Rapid Shutdown devices (DC contactors,
Midnite Solar relays, etc.) are used, the SPS function can not be used.  My
question is that *if the Rapid Shutdown function is optional or a
requirement when deploying the SPS function.*

Regards,
Greg Seelhorst
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Unusual problem with SMA TL inverter on metal roof

[Gregory Seelhorst]

Marco

What is the make and model of the modules?   SPR-327s perhaps?

Greg
On Mar 14, 2014 4:53 AM, "Marco Mangelsdorf"  wrote:

>  Friends,
>
>
>
> We have run across an odd technical problem at our commercial install at a
> laundromat on our island.   Attached is the description of the issue from
> SMA.  We don't know much except that we are switch out the TL inverters to
> the old style US inverters because SMA has no fix for the phantom ground
> tripping.  The issue is beyond our feeble understanding.
>
>
>
> Any observations to share?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> marco
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[RE-wrenches] Fwd:

[Gregory Seelhorst]

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