Re: [RE-wrenches] 72-cell modules
MAge has a 190W 72 cell mono. On Jan 30, 2014, at 8:37 PM, Allan Sindelar wrote: Wrenches, About a year ago I asked for suggestions of 72-cell modules with 125 mm cells - the standard 155-195W modules of just a few years ago. Now we really need some. We have a good customer for whom we put in an off grid system in 2006. 48V, 27 BP SX170 modules on three Wattsun trackers. Each tracker holds nne modules, wired as three 72V strings of three modules each. Yes, the notorious SX170s. Four with burn spots were replaced in 2008, 6 more in 2010, and now ten more failed or are showing discoloration. BP's warranty contractor has agreed to replace the wattage equivalent of 23 of them at $2.00/W. They will either ship us replacement modules or send a check for purchase of replacements elsewhere. The problem is that their only offerings are 60-cell modules, which won't fit the trackers. BP got out of the solar business before the standard configuration went to the larger 156 mm cells. I would have appreciated a serious corporate effort to procure warranty stock of modules that were most like the ones manufactured by BP, so that they would more readily replace their warranty failures. That apparently is not to be. The SX170s are 31.1 (790mm) by 62.8 (1593 mm). I need to locate some 72-cell modules in this standard dimension range. We'd probably buy 27 of them, once we determine that the replacements can be fit to the racks. Can anyone suggest a brand/model/supplier etc.? I have seen that Eopply shows 195W mono modules in the U.S. section of their website (thanks, Chris Daum) and I'll call them in the morning. Any other suggestions, please? Thank you, Allan -- Allan Sindelar al...@positiveenergysolar.com NABCEP Certified PV Installation Professional NABCEP Certified Technical Sales Professional New Mexico EE98J Journeyman Electrician Founder, Positive Energy, Inc. A Certified B CorporationTM 3209 Richards Lane Santa Fe, New Mexico 87507 505 424-1112 office 780-2738 cell www.positiveenergysolar.com ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change email address settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change email address settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] 72-cell modules
Alan, SunPower's 240W module is 72 cells and the physical size you are looking for. Not sure how the voltage will work for you. Good Luck. Ken On 2/15/14 11:28 AM, Bob-O Schultze wrote: MAge has a 190W 72 cell mono. On Jan 30, 2014, at 8:37 PM, Allan Sindelar wrote: Wrenches, About a year ago I asked for suggestions of 72-cell modules with 125 mm cells - the standard 155-195W modules of just a few years ago. Now we really need some. We have a good customer for whom we put in an off grid system in 2006. 48V, 27 BP SX170 modules on three Wattsun trackers. Each tracker holds nne modules, wired as three 72V strings of three modules each. Yes, the notorious SX170s. Four with burn spots were replaced in 2008, 6 more in 2010, and now ten more failed or are showing discoloration. BP's warranty contractor has agreed to replace the wattage equivalent of 23 of them at $2.00/W. They will either ship us replacement modules or send a check for purchase of replacements elsewhere. The problem is that their only offerings are 60-cell modules, which won't fit the trackers. BP got out of the solar business before the standard configuration went to the larger 156 mm cells. I would have appreciated a serious corporate effort to procure warranty stock of modules that were most like the ones manufactured by BP, so that they would more readily replace their warranty failures. That apparently is not to be. The SX170s are 31.1 (790mm) by 62.8 (1593 mm). I need to locate some 72-cell modules in this standard dimension range. We'd probably buy 27 of them, once we determine that the replacements can be fit to the racks. Can anyone suggest a brand/model/supplier etc.? I have seen that Eopply shows 195W mono modules in the U.S. section of their website (thanks, Chris Daum) and I'll call them in the morning. Any other suggestions, please? Thank you, Allan -- *Allan Sindelar* _Allan@positiveenergysolar.com_ mailto:al...@positiveenergysolar.com NABCEP Certified PV Installation Professional NABCEP Certified Technical Sales Professional New Mexico EE98J Journeyman Electrician Founder, *Positive Energy, Inc.* A Certified B Corporation^TM 3209 Richards Lane Santa Fe, New Mexico 87507 *505 424-1112 office 780-2738 cell* _www.positiveenergysolar.com_ http://www.positiveenergysolar.com/ ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org mailto:RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change email address settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change email address settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org -- President CEO, SoL Energy, LLC NABCEP Certified PV Installer k...@sol-energy.us www.sol-energy.us 970-963-1060 (office) 970-309-3087 (cell) attachment: ken.vcf___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change email address settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] 72-cell modules
The Sanyo/panasonic are a bit smaller, just need to reduce rail width drill
holes but thats what I am doing.
On Jan 31, 2014, at 12:14 AM, Ray Walters wrote:
No suggestions on modules, but possibly you could swap all the good modules
onto 2 poles, and modify the 3rd rack to hold a set of all newer modules?
I just sold a customer a bunch of Solar World 270s, to replace dead Astro
Power modules on Wattsun racks.
They went for a total square footage that was similar, and apparently didn't
have much trouble modifying the rack.
(I didn't do the work, originally or after)
R.Ray Walters
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On 1/30/2014 9:37 PM, Allan Sindelar wrote:
Wrenches,
About a year ago I asked for suggestions of 72-cell modules with 125 mm
cells - the standard 155-195W modules of just a few years ago. Now we really
need some.
We have a good customer for whom we put in an off grid system in 2006. 48V,
27 BP SX170 modules on three Wattsun trackers. Each tracker holds nne
modules, wired as three 72V strings of three modules each.
Yes, the notorious SX170s. Four with burn spots were replaced in 2008, 6
more in 2010, and now ten more failed or are showing discoloration. BP's
warranty contractor has agreed to replace the wattage equivalent of 23 of
them at $2.00/W. They will either ship us replacement modules or send a
check for purchase of replacements elsewhere. The problem is that their only
offerings are 60-cell modules, which won't fit the trackers.
BP got out of the solar business before the standard configuration went to
the larger 156 mm cells. I would have appreciated a serious corporate effort
to procure warranty stock of modules that were most like the ones
manufactured by BP, so that they would more readily replace their warranty
failures. That apparently is not to be.
The SX170s are 31.1 (790mm) by 62.8 (1593 mm). I need to locate some
72-cell modules in this standard dimension range. We'd probably buy 27 of
them, once we determine that the replacements can be fit to the racks.
Can anyone suggest a brand/model/supplier etc.? I have seen that Eopply
shows 195W mono modules in the U.S. section of their website (thanks, Chris
Daum) and I'll call them in the morning. Any other suggestions, please?
Thank you,
Allan
--
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Re: [RE-wrenches] 72-cell modules
Does anyone have a source for Panasonic modules, in other than pallet quantity? Allan Sindelar al...@positiveenergysolar.com NABCEP Certified PV Installation Professional NABCEP Certified Technical Sales Professional New Mexico EE98J Journeyman Electrician Founder, Positive Energy, Inc. A Certified B CorporationTM 3209 Richards Lane Santa Fe, New Mexico 87507 505 424-1112 office 780-2738 cell www.positiveenergysolar.com On 2/3/2014 4:28 AM, Tump wrote: The Sanyo/panasonic are a bit smaller, just need to reduce rail width drill holes but thats what I am doing. ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change email address settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] 72-cell modules
Panasonics are longer available through Sunwize. That's what my rep just
told me. They had trouble selling them due to the higher cost.
Kirk Herander
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Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] 72-cell modules
contact me of list for contact at sunwize if you need to but thats where I
got my replacements last month,
On Feb 3, 2014, at 10:51 AM, Allan Sindelar wrote:
Does anyone have a source for Panasonic modules, in other than pallet
quantity?
Allan Sindelar
mailto:al...@positiveenergysolar.com al...@positiveenergysolar.com
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505 424-1112 office 780-2738 cell
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The Sanyo/panasonic are a bit smaller, just need to reduce rail width
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Re: [RE-wrenches] 72-cell modules
PS that's no longer available
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Panasonics are longer available through Sunwize. That's what my rep just
told me. They had trouble selling them due to the higher cost.
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contact me of list for contact at sunwize if you need to but thats where I
got my replacements last month,
On Feb 3, 2014, at 10:51 AM, Allan Sindelar wrote:
Does anyone have a source for Panasonic modules, in other than pallet
quantity?
Allan Sindelar
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The Sanyo/panasonic are a bit smaller, just need to reduce rail width
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Re: [RE-wrenches] 72-cell modules
Tump Try Silevohttp://silevosolar.com/category/product/cells-modules/triex-solar-cell/, they are currently making a 125mm 72 cell module in China. This is thier 36MW proof of concept plant ( lower cost HIT technology like Sanyo , cystalline cell with amorphous coating giving higher efficiency and better lower temperature coefficient for hot climates. Apparently the pilot plant in CA is making the 60 cell version. They are breaking ground on a large plant in New York to make 156mm cells and 60 and 72 cell full size modules. Looks pretty promising as a technology and these guys have done their homework. Interesting they are using semi-conductor etching and copper depositing for the fingers rather than silver paste, which has decreased costs and processing steps along with improving efficiency, allowing them to offer the technology at a more competitive ( although still premium) price than Sanyo Hits were available for. Should be close to the foot print you need and have a better power density than you had. Bill On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 1:28 PM, Kirk Herander k...@vtsolar.com wrote: Panasonics are longer available through Sunwize. That's what my rep just told me. They had trouble selling them due to the higher cost. Kirk Herander VT Solar, LLC dba Vermont Solar Engineering NABCEPTM Certified Inaugural Certificant NYSERDA-eligible Installer VT RE Incentive Program Partner 802.863.1202 *From:* re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] *On Behalf Of *Tump *Sent:* Monday, February 03, 2014 11:43 AM *To:* al...@positiveenergysolar.com; RE-wrenches *Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] 72-cell modules contact me of list for contact at sunwize if you need to but thats where I got my replacements last month, On Feb 3, 2014, at 10:51 AM, Allan Sindelar wrote: Does anyone have a source for Panasonic modules, in other than pallet quantity? *Allan Sindelar* *al...@positiveenergysolar.com* al...@positiveenergysolar.com NABCEP Certified PV Installation Professional NABCEP Certified Technical Sales Professional New Mexico EE98J Journeyman Electrician Founder, *Positive Energy, Inc.* A Certified B CorporationTM 3209 Richards Lane Santa Fe, New Mexico 87507 *505 424-1112 505%20424-1112 office 780-2738 cell* *www.positiveenergysolar.com* http://www.positiveenergysolar.com/ On 2/3/2014 4:28 AM, Tump wrote: The Sanyo/panasonic are a bit smaller, just need to reduce rail width drill holes but thats what I am doing. ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: *RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org*RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change email address settings: *http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org*http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org *t...@swnl.net* *www.SWNL.net* Solarwinds Northernlights * Serving Mid Coast Maine Northern California* * 207-832-7574 207-832-7574 Cl. 610-517-8401 610-517-8401 * *Blair TUMP May* * MAINE'S CHARTER ** NABCEPCertified PV Installer* * MAINE'S CHARTER ** Trace Xantrex Certified Dealer / Installer* ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change email address settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org -- William Hoffer 161 SE Fourth Ave P.O. Box 1823 White Salmon, WA 98672-1823 suneng...@gmail.com bhof...@sunergyengineeringservices.com ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change email address settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] 72-cell modules
Does anyone know where to still purchase Panasonic modules since Sunwize no
longer carries them?
Larry
On Feb 3, 2014, at 2:28 PM, Kirk Herander k...@vtsolar.com wrote:
Panasonics are longer available through Sunwize. That’s what my rep just told
me. They had trouble selling them due to the higher cost.
Kirk Herander
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contact me of list for contact at sunwize if you need to but thats where I got
my replacements last month,
On Feb 3, 2014, at 10:51 AM, Allan Sindelar wrote:
Does anyone have a source for Panasonic modules, in other than pallet quantity?
Allan Sindelar
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Re: [RE-wrenches] 72-cell modules
Allan, We just finished replacing a BP SX170 pole top array under warranty and BP provided us with the Ameresco 4190J modules. We had to install cords with the MC4 connectors on the J-boxes but other than that, they bolted right in. The dimensions are almost identical to the SX-170 and the bolt holes line up nicelyand they are a 72 cell module. FYIwe have no nearby warranty contractor so BP actually paid us to do the work.I hung a copy of the check on my office wall ;-) Roy Butler NABCEP Certified Solar PV Installer NYSERDA eligible PV wind installer Four Winds Renewable Energy, LLC 8902 Route 46, Arkport, NY 14807 607-324-9747 www.four-winds-energy.com Join us at the 10th Annual Small Wind Conference A Gathering of Installers, Manufacturers, Dealers, Distributors June 17 and 18, 2014 in Stevens Point, Wisconsin www.smallwindconference.com Although no trees were killed in the sending of this message, a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. On 1/30/2014 11:37 PM, Allan Sindelar wrote: Wrenches, About a year ago I asked for suggestions of 72-cell modules with 125 mm cells - the standard 155-195W modules of just a few years ago. Now we really need some. We have a good customer for whom we put in an off grid system in 2006. 48V, 27 BP SX170 modules on three Wattsun trackers. Each tracker holds nne modules, wired as three 72V strings of three modules each. Yes, the notorious SX170s. Four with burn spots were replaced in 2008, 6 more in 2010, and now ten more failed or are showing discoloration. BP's warranty contractor has agreed to replace the wattage equivalent of 23 of them at $2.00/W. They will either ship us replacement modules or send a check for purchase of replacements elsewhere. The problem is that their only offerings are 60-cell modules, which won't fit the trackers. BP got out of the solar business before the standard configuration went to the larger 156 mm cells. I would have appreciated a serious corporate effort to procure warranty stock of modules that were most like the ones manufactured by BP, so that they would more readily replace their warranty failures. That apparently is not to be. The SX170s are 31.1" (790mm) by 62.8" (1593 mm). I need to locate some 72-cell modules in this standard dimension range. We'd probably buy 27 of them, once we determine that the replacements can be fit to the racks. Can anyone suggest a brand/model/supplier etc.? I have seen that Eopply shows 195W mono modules in the U.S. section of their website (thanks, Chris Daum) and I'll call them in the morning. Any other suggestions, please? Thank you, Allan -- Allan Sindelar al...@positiveenergysolar.com NABCEP Certified PV Installation Professional NABCEP Certified Technical Sales Professional New Mexico EE98J Journeyman Electrician Founder, Positive Energy, Inc. A Certified B CorporationTM 3209 Richards Lane Santa Fe, New Mexico 87507 505 424-1112 office 780-2738 cell www.positiveenergysolar.com ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change email address settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change email address settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] 72-cell modules
Allan.we have gotten the epolly modules from Erika Karnitz at Backwoods Solarthey seem to have a regular supplywe use them with shurflo 9300 pump systems.they have reasonable pricing... Kirpal Khalsa Renewable Energy Systems 541-299-0402 On Friday, January 31, 2014, Roy Butler r...@four-winds-energy.com wrote: Allan, We just finished replacing a BP SX170 pole top array under warranty and BP provided us with the Ameresco 4190J modules. We had to install cords with the MC4 connectors on the J-boxes but other than that, they bolted right in. The dimensions are almost identical to the SX-170 and the bolt holes line up nicelyand they are a 72 cell module. FYIwe have no nearby warranty contractor so BP actually paid us to do the work.I hung a copy of the check on my office wall ;-) Roy Butler NABCEP Certified Solar PV Installer® NYSERDA eligible PV wind installer Four Winds Renewable Energy, LLC 8902 Route 46, Arkport, NY 14807 607-324-9747 www.four-winds-energy.com Join us at the 10th Annual Small Wind Conference A Gathering of Installers, Manufacturers, Dealers, Distributors June 17 and 18, 2014 in Stevens Point, Wisconsinwww.smallwindconference.com Although no trees were killed in the sending of this message, a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. On 1/30/2014 11:37 PM, Allan Sindelar wrote: Wrenches, About a year ago I asked for suggestions of 72-cell modules with 125 mm cells - the standard 155-195W modules of just a few years ago. Now we really need some. We have a good customer for whom we put in an off grid system in 2006. 48V, 27 BP SX170 modules on three Wattsun trackers. Each tracker holds nne modules, wired as three 72V strings of three modules each. Yes, the notorious SX170s. Four with burn spots were replaced in 2008, 6 more in 2010, and now ten more failed or are showing discoloration. BP's warranty contractor has agreed to replace the wattage equivalent of 23 of them at $2.00/W. They will either ship us replacement modules or send a check for purchase of replacements elsewhere. The problem is that their only offerings are 60-cell modules, which won't fit the trackers. BP got out of the solar business before the standard configuration went to the larger 156 mm cells. I would have appreciated a serious corporate effort to procure warranty stock of modules that were most like the ones manufactured by BP, so that they would more readily replace their warranty failures. That apparently is not to be. The SX170s are 31.1 (790mm) by 62.8 (1593 mm). I need to locate some 72-cell modules in this standard dimension range. We'd probably buy 27 of them, once we determine that the replacements can be fit to the racks. Can anyone suggest a brand/model/supplier etc.? I have seen that Eopply shows 195W mono modules in the U.S. section of their website (thanks, Chris Daum) and I'll call them in the morning. Any other suggestions, please? Thank you, Allan -- *Allan Sindelar* *al...@positiveenergysolar.com*javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','al...@positiveenergysolar.com'); NABCEP Certified PV Installation Professional NABCEP Certified Technical Sales Professional New Mexico EE98J Journeyman Electrician Founder, *Positive Energy, Inc.* A Certified B CorporationTM 3209 Richards Lane Santa Fe, New Mexico 87507 *505 424-1112 office 780-2738 cell* *www.positiveenergysolar.com* http://www.positiveenergysolar.com/ ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org'); Change email address settings:http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette:www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios:www.members.re-wrenches.org -- Sunny Regards, Kirpal Khalsa NABCEP Certified PV Installation Professional Renewable Energy Systems www.oregonsolarworks.com 541-218-0201 m 541-299-0402 o ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change email address settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] 72-cell modules
Hi Allan, That is about the dimension of the Panasonic/Sanyo if you want to up the output too! Chris Worcester Solar Wind Works NABCEP Certified PV Installer Office 530-582-4503 Cell 530-448-9692 Fax 530-582-4603 www.solarwindworks.com ch...@solarwindworks.com From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Allan Sindelar Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2014 8:37 PM To: RE-wrenches Subject: [RE-wrenches] 72-cell modules Wrenches, About a year ago I asked for suggestions of 72-cell modules with 125 mm cells - the standard 155-195W modules of just a few years ago. Now we really need some. We have a good customer for whom we put in an off grid system in 2006. 48V, 27 BP SX170 modules on three Wattsun trackers. Each tracker holds nne modules, wired as three 72V strings of three modules each. Yes, the notorious SX170s. Four with burn spots were replaced in 2008, 6 more in 2010, and now ten more failed or are showing discoloration. BP's warranty contractor has agreed to replace the wattage equivalent of 23 of them at $2.00/W. They will either ship us replacement modules or send a check for purchase of replacements elsewhere. The problem is that their only offerings are 60-cell modules, which won't fit the trackers. BP got out of the solar business before the standard configuration went to the larger 156 mm cells. I would have appreciated a serious corporate effort to procure warranty stock of modules that were most like the ones manufactured by BP, so that they would more readily replace their warranty failures. That apparently is not to be. The SX170s are 31.1 (790mm) by 62.8 (1593 mm). I need to locate some 72-cell modules in this standard dimension range. We'd probably buy 27 of them, once we determine that the replacements can be fit to the racks. Can anyone suggest a brand/model/supplier etc.? I have seen that Eopply shows 195W mono modules in the U.S. section of their website (thanks, Chris Daum) and I'll call them in the morning. Any other suggestions, please? Thank you, Allan -- Allan Sindelar mailto:al...@positiveenergysolar.com al...@positiveenergysolar.com NABCEP Certified PV Installation Professional NABCEP Certified Technical Sales Professional New Mexico EE98J Journeyman Electrician Founder, Positive Energy, Inc. A Certified B CorporationTM 3209 Richards Lane Santa Fe, New Mexico 87507 505 424-1112 office 780-2738 cell http://www.positiveenergysolar.com/ www.positiveenergysolar.com ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change email address settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
[RE-wrenches] 72-cell modules
Wrenches, About a year ago I asked for suggestions of 72-cell modules with 125 mm cells - the standard 155-195W modules of just a few years ago. Now we really need some. We have a good customer for whom we put in an off grid system in 2006. 48V, 27 BP SX170 modules on three Wattsun trackers. Each tracker holds nne modules, wired as three 72V strings of three modules each. Yes, the notorious SX170s. Four with burn spots were replaced in 2008, 6 more in 2010, and now ten more failed or are showing discoloration. BP's warranty contractor has agreed to replace the wattage equivalent of 23 of them at $2.00/W. They will either ship us replacement modules or send a check for purchase of replacements elsewhere. The problem is that their only offerings are 60-cell modules, which won't fit the trackers. BP got out of the solar business before the standard configuration went to the larger 156 mm cells. I would have appreciated a serious corporate effort to procure warranty stock of modules that were most like the ones manufactured by BP, so that they would more readily replace their warranty failures. That apparently is not to be. The SX170s are 31.1" (790mm) by 62.8" (1593 mm). I need to locate some 72-cell modules in this standard dimension range. We'd probably buy 27 of them, once we determine that the replacements can be fit to the racks. Can anyone suggest a brand/model/supplier etc.? I have seen that Eopply shows 195W mono modules in the U.S. section of their website (thanks, Chris Daum) and I'll call them in the morning. Any other suggestions, please? Thank you, Allan -- Allan Sindelar al...@positiveenergysolar.com NABCEP Certified PV Installation Professional NABCEP Certified Technical Sales Professional New Mexico EE98J Journeyman Electrician Founder, Positive Energy, Inc. A Certified B CorporationTM 3209 Richards Lane Santa Fe, New Mexico 87507 505 424-1112 office 780-2738 cell www.positiveenergysolar.com ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change email address settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] 72-cell modules
No suggestions on modules, but possibly you could swap all the good modules onto 2 poles, and modify the 3rd rack to hold a set of all newer modules? I just sold a customer a bunch of Solar World 270s, to replace dead Astro Power modules on Wattsun racks. They went for a total square footage that was similar, and apparently didn't have much trouble modifying the rack. (I didn't do the work, originally or after) R.Ray Walters CTO, Solarray, Inc Nabcep Certified PV Installer, Licensed Master Electrician Solar Design Engineer 303 505-8760 On 1/30/2014 9:37 PM, Allan Sindelar wrote: Wrenches, About a year ago I asked for suggestions of 72-cell modules with 125 mm cells - the standard 155-195W modules of just a few years ago. Now we really need some. We have a good customer for whom we put in an off grid system in 2006. 48V, 27 BP SX170 modules on three Wattsun trackers. Each tracker holds nne modules, wired as three 72V strings of three modules each. Yes, the notorious SX170s. Four with burn spots were replaced in 2008, 6 more in 2010, and now ten more failed or are showing discoloration. BP's warranty contractor has agreed to replace the wattage equivalent of 23 of them at $2.00/W. They will either ship us replacement modules or send a check for purchase of replacements elsewhere. The problem is that their only offerings are 60-cell modules, which won't fit the trackers. BP got out of the solar business before the standard configuration went to the larger 156 mm cells. I would have appreciated a serious corporate effort to procure warranty stock of modules that were most like the ones manufactured by BP, so that they would more readily replace their warranty failures. That apparently is not to be. The SX170s are 31.1 (790mm) by 62.8 (1593 mm). I need to locate some 72-cell modules in this standard dimension range. We'd probably buy 27 of them, once we determine that the replacements can be fit to the racks. Can anyone suggest a brand/model/supplier etc.? I have seen that Eopply shows 195W mono modules in the U.S. section of their website (thanks, Chris Daum) and I'll call them in the morning. Any other suggestions, please? Thank you, Allan -- *Allan Sindelar* _Allan@positiveenergysolar.com_ mailto:al...@positiveenergysolar.com NABCEP Certified PV Installation Professional NABCEP Certified Technical Sales Professional New Mexico EE98J Journeyman Electrician Founder, *Positive Energy, Inc.* A Certified B Corporation^TM 3209 Richards Lane Santa Fe, New Mexico 87507 *505 424-1112 office 780-2738 cell* _www.positiveenergysolar.com_ http://www.positiveenergysolar.com/ ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change email address settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change email address settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
[RE-wrenches] 72 cell modules Needed.
We are in need of approx 2kw of 160-170w modules, 72 cell. Please contact me off list if you can help Jeremy Rodriguez allso...@scswifi.net Sent via BlackBerry. Sorry for typos and shorthand! ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
