Re: [RE-wrenches] Cell phone based relay control

2023-03-14 Thread Todd Cory via RE-wrenches 

I can help with this as Michael built something similar to what I designed and 
installed in 2001: 

I plumbed small irrigation sprayers every ~15' around the perimeter of my 
buildings under the eaves. This wets down the perimeter of the structures, 
particularly the combustion zone where the building meets the ground. Roof 
mounted sprayers leave a vulnerable dry gap between the drip edge and the 
building. Under eave sprayers wet this area and the siding.

I have 40 of these sprayers which maxes out my well pump at 35 PSI/~15 gallons 
a minute creating a rainstorm of water around the 8 buildings they are plumbed 
on. My GVFX-3648 is easily capable of operating the well pump during a grid 
outage.

I also have window shutters and metal roofs.

I use this to activate the solenoid valve from my phone if I am gone:

[ https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06X6NBDFW ]( 
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06X6NBDFW )

It is controlled by this phone application:
[ https://ewelink.cc/ ]( https://ewelink.cc/ )[ 
 ]( https://ewelink.cc/ )
It is perplexing why Cal Fire and others do not test and recommend these kinds 
of systems. The best answer I have been able to come up with is they fear 
people prepared like this would have a tendency to "stay and defend" their 
homes rather than evacuating.

Todd





On Monday, March 13, 2023 6:37pm, "Ray Walters via RE-wrenches" 
 said:



Michael;
Can you share more about your sprinkler system and the power supply for it?  
Over the years, at least two of my customers have lost their homes (and PV 
arrays) in wild fires. 
Ray Walters
Remote Solar
On 3/13/2023 2:34 PM, Michael Morningstar via RE-wrenches wrote:
WebRelay. I use one to turn off my WEEDS (Wind Enabled Ember Dousing System) 
sprinkler system via a 12V solenoid
 
 
 


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Re: [RE-wrenches] Cell phone based relay control

2023-03-13 Thread Michael Morningstar via RE-wrenches 
Sure thing. Todd Cory turned me on to this. Thanks Todd!

chrome-extension://oemmndcbldboiebfnladdacbdfmadadm/
https://www.7thgenerationdesign.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/fire-WEEDS.pdf

I spaced sprayers 3' from corners, and then every 8'

My hydro penstock feeds 10K gallons of buried concrete cisterns that sit
400' above my home. They supply the WEEDS system. When the system is
activated, it uses about 30GPM. I also have a diesel water pump that drafts
off of a year round creek that will "backfeed" the water supply. It is
activated by a WebRelay also. Each year I invite our local wildland fire
crews up and get them familiarized with the system (It can be manually
actuated) and the locations of two other steel 10K tanks w/ hose reels,
situated by our shops. I also have cell phone surveillance cameras, one on
a mountain above us that is dialed into our drainage, and one looking out
the rear door, where a fire would be coming from. This is so that if I'm
out in the field and a fire takes off, either myself, family, friends, or
neighbors that get notice of a fire can take a look at the camera feeds and
start the system if need be.

It's a sight to behold. The entire house is enveloped in a vertical wall of
water.

I'm including a picture showing the line circling the eaves. Not shown, are
the 6" brass nipples w/ shrub heads which I was reinstalling last Spring. I
remove them each fall so snow doesn't tear them off.

Pro tip: There are only two manufacturers of brass shrub sprayers that
offer a flat 360 pattern. Arrow and Orbit. The Orbit's are garbage.
[image: sprinkler Small.jpeg]



On Mon, Mar 13, 2023 at 6:37 PM Ray Walters via RE-wrenches <
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> Michael;
>
> Can you share more about your sprinkler system and the power supply for
> it?  Over the years, at least two of my customers have lost their homes
> (and PV arrays) in wild fires.
>
> Ray Walters
> Remote Solar
> On 3/13/2023 2:34 PM, Michael Morningstar via RE-wrenches wrote:
>
> WebRelay. I use one to turn off my WEEDS (Wind Enabled Ember Dousing
> System) sprinkler system via a 12V solenoid
>
> On Mon, Mar 13, 2023 at 1:22 PM Starlight via RE-wrenches <
> re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote:
>
>>
>> https://www.amazon.com/Solenoid-Control-Wireless-Contact-T-Mobile/dp/B07Q7PKW5Z?th=1
>>
>> Larry Crutcher
>> Starlight Solar Power Systems
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mar 13, 2023, at 12:47 PM, Jay via RE-wrenches <
>> re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hi all
>>
>> Any recommendations for a cell phone controlled relay?
>>
>> Would be off grid. There is 12v already there.
>> I’m trying to remote control a grundfos sqflex  pump, only a dry dpst
>> contact is required.
>>
>> Would be great to have access to the control via an app or web so that
>> one could see if it’s on or off or maybe even set timers etc.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Jay
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Cell phone based relay control

2023-03-13 Thread Ray Walters via RE-wrenches 

Michael;

Can you share more about your sprinkler system and the power supply for 
it?  Over the years, at least two of my customers have lost their homes 
(and PV arrays) in wild fires.


Ray Walters
Remote Solar

On 3/13/2023 2:34 PM, Michael Morningstar via RE-wrenches wrote:
WebRelay. I use one to turn off my WEEDS (Wind Enabled Ember Dousing 
System) sprinkler system via a 12V solenoid


On Mon, Mar 13, 2023 at 1:22 PM Starlight via RE-wrenches 
 wrote:



https://www.amazon.com/Solenoid-Control-Wireless-Contact-T-Mobile/dp/B07Q7PKW5Z?th=1


Larry Crutcher
Starlight Solar Power Systems




On Mar 13, 2023, at 12:47 PM, Jay via RE-wrenches
 wrote:

Hi all

Any recommendations for a cell phone controlled relay?

Would be off grid. There is 12v already there.
I’m trying to remote control a grundfos sqflex  pump, only a dry
dpst contact is required.

Would be great to have access to the control via an app or web so
that one could see if it’s on or off or maybe even set timers etc.

Thanks

Jay
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Cell phone based relay control

2023-03-13 Thread Jay via RE-wrenches 
Hi allI guess I didn’t use the right terminology for my question. I’m looking for a cell phone controlled relay at the remote site that can be controlled via the computer at my desk or an app. There is no local network or internet at the remote site, just cell service. The one Larry suggested looks good and I’ll check it out more. ThxJayOn Mar 13, 2023, at 2:35 PM, Michael Morningstar via RE-wrenches  wrote:WebRelay. I use one to turn off my WEEDS (Wind Enabled Ember Dousing System) sprinkler system via a 12V solenoidOn Mon, Mar 13, 2023 at 1:22 PM Starlight via RE-wrenches  wrote:https://www.amazon.com/Solenoid-Control-Wireless-Contact-T-Mobile/dp/B07Q7PKW5Z?th=1Larry CrutcherStarlight Solar Power Systems

On Mar 13, 2023, at 12:47 PM, Jay via RE-wrenches  wrote:Hi allAny recommendations for a cell phone controlled relay?Would be off grid. There is 12v already there. I’m trying to remote control a grundfos sqflex  pump, only a dry dpst contact is required. Would be great to have access to the control via an app or web so that one could see if it’s on or off or maybe even set timers etc. Thanks Jay___List sponsored by Redwood AlliancePay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.orgList Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.orgChange listserver email address & settings:http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.orgThere are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the other:https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.orgList rules & etiquette:http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htmCheck out or update participant bios:http://www.members.re-wrenches.org___
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Cell phone based relay control

2023-03-13 Thread Michael Morningstar via RE-wrenches 
WebRelay. I use one to turn off my WEEDS (Wind Enabled Ember Dousing
System) sprinkler system via a 12V solenoid

On Mon, Mar 13, 2023 at 1:22 PM Starlight via RE-wrenches <
re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote:

>
> https://www.amazon.com/Solenoid-Control-Wireless-Contact-T-Mobile/dp/B07Q7PKW5Z?th=1
>
> Larry Crutcher
> Starlight Solar Power Systems
>
>
>
>
> On Mar 13, 2023, at 12:47 PM, Jay via RE-wrenches <
> re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote:
>
> Hi all
>
> Any recommendations for a cell phone controlled relay?
>
> Would be off grid. There is 12v already there.
> I’m trying to remote control a grundfos sqflex  pump, only a dry dpst
> contact is required.
>
> Would be great to have access to the control via an app or web so that one
> could see if it’s on or off or maybe even set timers etc.
>
> Thanks
>
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Cell phone based relay control

2023-03-13 Thread Starlight via RE-wrenches 
https://www.amazon.com/Solenoid-Control-Wireless-Contact-T-Mobile/dp/B07Q7PKW5Z?th=1

Larry Crutcher
Starlight Solar Power Systems




On Mar 13, 2023, at 12:47 PM, Jay via RE-wrenches 
 wrote:

Hi all

Any recommendations for a cell phone controlled relay?

Would be off grid. There is 12v already there. 
I’m trying to remote control a grundfos sqflex  pump, only a dry dpst contact 
is required. 

Would be great to have access to the control via an app or web so that one 
could see if it’s on or off or maybe even set timers etc. 

Thanks 

Jay
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Cell phone based relay control

2023-03-13 Thread William Miller via RE-wrenches 
Jay:



Control by Web. <https://www.controlbyweb.com/>  The hardware is robust.
You can write code or use built-in functions.  There is a smart-pone app or
you can interface by browser.



Here
<https://millersolar.com/MillerSolar/Portfolio/Commercial/Cal_Trans/Remote/Remote_Control.html>
is a link to a job we did with CBW equipment.



William



Miller Solar

17395 Oak Road, Atascadero, CA 93422

805-438-5600

www.millersolar.com

CA Lic. 773985





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Hi all



Any recommendations for a cell phone controlled relay?



Would be off grid. There is 12v already there.

I’m trying to remote control a grundfos sqflex  pump, only a dry dpst
contact is required.



Would be great to have access to the control via an app or web so that one
could see if it’s on or off or maybe even set timers etc.



Thanks



Jay

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[RE-wrenches] Cell phone based relay control

2023-03-13 Thread Jay via RE-wrenches 
Hi all

Any recommendations for a cell phone controlled relay?

Would be off grid. There is 12v already there. 
I’m trying to remote control a grundfos sqflex  pump, only a dry dpst contact 
is required. 

Would be great to have access to the control via an app or web so that one 
could see if it’s on or off or maybe even set timers etc. 

Thanks 

Jay
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