Re: [RE-wrenches] Home Depot solar?
I don't know why you guys bother about those expensive solar panels. Wallmart can get 4000 kWh per year from a spinny thingy right there in the parking lot http://barnegat.patch.com/articles/lacey-walmart-wind-turbines-decision-coming-in-november Too cheap to meter? I guess it won't be long before Dairy Queen will be selling inverters with a large shake. Jeffrey Yago, pres. -- Hugh Piggott Scoraig http://www.scoraigwind.co.uk ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] Home Depot solar?
Probably not DQ, but I’d be happy to buy a PV customer a Banana Split ™. J We are getting more and more calls about people who think they can just hook a few panels up to their RV/Boat/Car and have everything work. News of PV getting below $2/w, then $1.50/w has people with the wrong impression. It’s tough to explain the reality to them, now that modules are around 25% of the typical installed cost! Jason Szumlanski Fafco Solar From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Yago Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 4:27 PM To: RE-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Home Depot solar? Along the same subject I was in Sams Club last month and they had a whole stack of 24 volt 200 watt Grape Solar grid-tie modules for sale at a really low price. However, these were pigtail connectors and there was no documentation, no inverters, no combiners, no nothing to tell customers anything about these modules or that you will need to buy many more components before you will have a working system. I was wondering how long it would take everyone who bought 2 or 3 modules thinking they could charge up a RV or car battery to start calling. It didn't take long. Sure enough, we are getting all kinds of calls asking how they can connect one or two 24 volt modules they bought to charge a 12 volt battery and how to power a cheap 12 volt inverter. These were not happy campers when they found out they now need to buy an expensive charge controller to handle the voltage mis-match, and cannot use the low amp-hour car batteries they planned to use. Many of these customers spent up to $2,000 for solar modules only to find out they will ned to spend thousands more to assemble a working system. Home Depot, Sams, who is next, I guess it won't be long before Dairy Queen will be selling inverters with a large shake. Jeffrey Yago, pres. DTI Solar Inc. (p) 804-457-9566 (f) 815 846-0677 email - jry...@dtisolar.com on the web - www.pvforyou.com Netscape. Just the Net You Need. ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] Home Depot solar?
Along the same subject I was in Sams Club last month and they had a whole stack of 24 volt 200 watt Grape Solar grid-tie modules for sale at a really low price. However, these were pigtail connectors and there was no documentation, no inverters, no combiners, no nothing to tell customers anything about these modules or that you will need to buy many more components before you will have a working system. I was wondering how long it would take everyone who bought 2 or 3 modules thinking they could charge up a RV or car battery to start calling. It didn't take long. Sure enough, we are getting all kinds of calls asking how they can connect one or two 24 volt modules they bought to charge a 12 volt battery and how to power a cheap 12 volt inverter. These were not happy campers when they found out they now need to buy an expensive charge controller to handle the voltage mis-match, and cannot use the low amp-hour car batteries they planned to use. Many of these customers spent up to $2,000 for solar modules only to find out they will ned to spend thousands more to assemble a working system. Home Depot, Sams, who is next, I guess it won't be long before Dairy Queen will be selling inverters with a large shake. Jeffrey Yago, pres. DTI Solar Inc. (p) 804-457-9566 (f) 815 846-0677email - jry...@dtisolar.comon the web - www.pvforyou.com Netscape. Just the Net You Need. ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] Home Depot solar?
I just bid against them here in Northern MN. I saw BP modules, I had heard BP was leaving the residential market. Jesse Sent from my iPhone On Sep 29, 2011, at 10:48 AM, Andrew Truitt wrote: > HD hires local contractors to install their systems. I've worked for a > couple of quality-oriented companies that have explored this relationship > but both determined that the margins were just too thin. > > Andrew Truitt MSc, LEED GA > Truitt Renewable Energy Consulting > 202 486-7507 > http://www.linkedin.com/pub/andrew-truitt/8/622/713 > > Please excuse brevity and typos - this message was typed on tiny keys. > > On Sep 29, 2011 9:17 AM, "Jason Szumlanski" wrote: > ___ > List sponsored by Home Power magazine > > List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org > > Options & settings: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List-Archive: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List rules & etiquette: > www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm > > Check out participant bios: > www.members.re-wrenches.org > ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] Home Depot solar?
HD hires local contractors to install their systems. I've worked for a couple of quality-oriented companies that have explored this relationship but both determined that the margins were just too thin. Andrew Truitt MSc, LEED GA Truitt Renewable Energy Consulting 202 486-7507 http://www.linkedin.com/pub/andrew-truitt/8/622/713 Please excuse brevity and typos - this message was typed on tiny keys. On Sep 29, 2011 9:17 AM, "Jason Szumlanski" wrote: ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
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We sold for Home Depot (actually through HD for Astropower in 2000- 2001 in the Palm Springs area. It lasted about a year before they started shopping install labor - then it fell apart with competitors slinging lowball prices to get the work. Max Balchowsky Design Engineer SEE Systems 1048 Irvine Ave Suite 217 Newport Beach, Ca. 92660 760-403-6810 From: "wire...@gmail.com" To: Solar Energy Solutions ; RE-wrenches Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 9:40 AM Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Home Depot solar? Andrew, Koyaanisqatsi is also a great movie by Francis Ford Copolla. You should all see it. It's been awhile since I've seen it but if I remember correctly it's a Hopi Indian term meaning once we start digging from the earth, we're screwed beyond repair. Larry Liesner Design and Installations Elektron Solar, LLC 49 Richmondville Ave Suite 107 Westport, CT 06880 203-557-3127 (office) 203-644-2404 (cell) 203-549-0977 (fax) wire...@gmail.com On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 12:31 PM, Solar Energy Solutions wrote: Home Depot IS selling PV in Portland Oregon through Solar City. > >Seirrabuton Club is marketing PV to their members in Oregon. They have chosen >a single contractor for the entire state to install all of their member's >systems. Payola is $300.00/system installed. > > >Andrew Koyaanisqatsi >President >Solar Energy Solutions, Inc. >Since 1987, >Moving Portland and Beyond >to an Environmentally Sustainable Future. >503-238-4502 >www.solarenergyoregon.com > >"Better one's House too little one day >than too big all the Year after." > > >From: Jason Szumlanski >To: RE-wrenches >Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 8:17 AM >Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Home Depot solar? > >We were recently asked to fix a royal mess by a SDHW installer >contracted via Home Depot. Not fun. 60+ systems with various >deficiencies. The installer was to blame, not HD. > >HD is not selling PV in our market (fortunately). > >Jason Szumlanski > > >-Original Message- >From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org >[mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Jesse >Dahl >Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 10:39 AM >To: RE-wrenches >Subject: [RE-wrenches] Home Depot solar? > >Anyone out there have any experience with Home Depot's solar installers? > >Jesse > >___ >List sponsored by Home Power magazine > >List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org > >Options & settings: >http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > >List-Archive: >http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > >List rules & etiquette: >www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm > >Check out participant bios: >www.members.re-wrenches.org > > > > >___ >List sponsored by Home Power magazine > >List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org > >Options & settings: >http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > >List-Archive: >http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > >List rules & etiquette: >www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm > >Check out participant bios: >www.members.re-wrenches.org > > > NABCEP Certified PV Installer (# 032611-184) ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
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Solar Electrical Systems (SES) in Westlake Village California was a Home Depot installer for BP Solar systems for a few years. SES does excellent work. SES no longer installs BP Solar or Home Depot systems but occasionally replaces BP modules that fail on the systems that they installed. Joel Davidson - Original Message - From: "Jesse Dahl" To: "RE-wrenches" Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 7:39 AM Subject: [RE-wrenches] Home Depot solar? Anyone out there have any experience with Home Depot's solar installers? Jesse Sent from my iPhone ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] Home Depot solar?
Andrew, Koyaanisqatsi is also a great movie by Francis Ford Copolla. You should all see it. It's been awhile since I've seen it but if I remember correctly it's a Hopi Indian term meaning once we start digging from the earth, we're screwed beyond repair. Larry Liesner Design and Installations Elektron Solar, LLC 49 Richmondville Ave Suite 107 Westport, CT 06880 203-557-3127 (office) 203-644-2404 (cell) 203-549-0977 (fax) wire...@gmail.com On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 12:31 PM, Solar Energy Solutions < solarenergysoluti...@yahoo.com> wrote: > Home Depot IS selling PV in Portland Oregon through Solar City. > > Seirrabuton Club is marketing PV to their members in Oregon. They > have chosen a single contractor for the entire state to install all of > their member's systems. Payola is $300.00/system installed. > > > *Andrew Koyaanisqatsi* > President > *Solar Energy Solutions, Inc.* > Since 1987, > Moving Portland and Beyond > to an Environmentally Sustainable Future. > *503-238-4502* > *www.solarenergyoregon.com * > ** > *"Better one's House too little one day* > *than too big all the Year after."* > > *From:* Jason Szumlanski > *To:* RE-wrenches > *Sent:* Thursday, September 29, 2011 8:17 AM > *Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] Home Depot solar? > > We were recently asked to fix a royal mess by a SDHW installer > contracted via Home Depot. Not fun. 60+ systems with various > deficiencies. The installer was to blame, not HD. > > HD is not selling PV in our market (fortunately). > > Jason Szumlanski > > > -Original Message- > From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org > [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Jesse > Dahl > Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 10:39 AM > To: RE-wrenches > Subject: [RE-wrenches] Home Depot solar? > > Anyone out there have any experience with Home Depot's solar installers? > > Jesse > > ___ > List sponsored by Home Power magazine > > List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org > > Options & settings: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List-Archive: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List rules & etiquette: > www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm > > Check out participant bios: > www.members.re-wrenches.org > > > > > ___ > List sponsored by Home Power magazine > > List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org > > Options & settings: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List-Archive: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List rules & etiquette: > www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm > > Check out participant bios: > www.members.re-wrenches.org > > > NABCEP Certified PV Installer (# 032611-184) ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] Home Depot solar?
Home Depot IS selling PV in Portland Oregon through Solar City. Seirrabuton Club is marketing PV to their members in Oregon. They have chosen a single contractor for the entire state to install all of their member's systems. Payola is $300.00/system installed. Andrew Koyaanisqatsi President Solar Energy Solutions, Inc. Since 1987, Moving Portland and Beyond to an Environmentally Sustainable Future. 503-238-4502 www.solarenergyoregon.com "Better one's House too little one day than too big all the Year after." From: Jason Szumlanski To: RE-wrenches Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 8:17 AM Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Home Depot solar? We were recently asked to fix a royal mess by a SDHW installer contracted via Home Depot. Not fun. 60+ systems with various deficiencies. The installer was to blame, not HD. HD is not selling PV in our market (fortunately). Jason Szumlanski -Original Message- From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Jesse Dahl Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 10:39 AM To: RE-wrenches Subject: [RE-wrenches] Home Depot solar? Anyone out there have any experience with Home Depot's solar installers? Jesse ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] Home Depot solar?
We were recently asked to fix a royal mess by a SDHW installer contracted via Home Depot. Not fun. 60+ systems with various deficiencies. The installer was to blame, not HD. HD is not selling PV in our market (fortunately). Jason Szumlanski -Original Message- From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Jesse Dahl Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 10:39 AM To: RE-wrenches Subject: [RE-wrenches] Home Depot solar? Anyone out there have any experience with Home Depot's solar installers? Jesse ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
[RE-wrenches] Home Depot solar?
Anyone out there have any experience with Home Depot's solar installers? Jesse Sent from my iPhone ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
