Re: [RE-wrenches] Honda 3000i low ac output

2021-09-07 Thread RE Ellison
I use the HarborFreight inverter generators and have had no problem at all with 
any of the magnums charging from them

Can’t say about the Honda but there’s something strange there obviously

Bob

> On Sep 4, 2021, at 2:39 PM, Dan Fink  wrote:
> 
> John; I have dealt with similar issues off-grid with the Honda 3000i "cubes," 
> one client is in northern BC Canada and the 2 sites are only accessible by 
> helicopter and float plane. So taking them to a local Honda PE shop is an 
> expensive proposition!
> 
> Before replacing the (super expensive) inverter, try these steps:
> Unplug all the (numerous) white Molex wire connectors inside one at a time, 
> clean the contacts with a wire brush, treat with anti-ox and replug.
> Check all those wire harnesses for chafing and worn-through insulation.
> Open the inverter, and check the wiring inside the aluminum case for chafing 
> against the case. I believe this is a common failure area.
> If those don't help, get the 3000i shop manual, it has a very thorough 
> troubleshooting section, and:
> There's an internal 6-pin plug under the throttle control where you can read 
> the stator voltage, rotor voltage, etc. 
> Hopefully it's something simple!
> 
> The one Honda 3000i problem I was never able to solve was Magnum MMS 
> inverters not accepting the AC input from the 3000i. We had similar systems 
> at 2 camps, and tried both inverters with both generators (had to swap via 
> heli of course) and it ended up as Magnum saying it's Honda's problem, and 
> Honda saying it's Magnum's problem.
> 
> Good luck!
> 
> Dan Fink
> Owner, Buckville Energy Consulting LLC
> IREC Certified Instructor for PV and Small Wind Installation
> NABCEP Certified PV System Inspector
> NABCEP PV Associate
> danbo...@gmail.com
> 970-672-4342
> 
>  
> 
> 
>> On Sat, Sep 4, 2021 at 8:41 AM John Blittersdorf 
>>  wrote:
>> I have a Honda 3000i for my off grid system that shows 84 vac output.  I 
>> suspect that the inverter is failing.  Just checking to see if any of you 
>> have seen this failure mode?
>> 
>> John Blittersdorf
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Honda 3000i low ac output

2021-09-04 Thread Dan Fink
John; I have dealt with similar issues off-grid with the Honda 3000i
"cubes," one client is in northern BC Canada and the 2 sites are only
accessible by helicopter and float plane. So taking them to a local Honda
PE shop is an expensive proposition!

Before replacing the (super expensive) inverter, try these steps:

   - Unplug all the (numerous) white Molex wire connectors inside one at a
   time, clean the contacts with a wire brush, treat with anti-ox and replug.
   - Check all those wire harnesses for chafing and worn-through insulation.
   - Open the inverter, and check the wiring inside the aluminum case for
   chafing against the case. I believe this is a common failure area.
   - If those don't help, get the 3000i shop manual, it has a very thorough
   troubleshooting section, and:
   - There's an internal 6-pin plug under the throttle control where you
   can read the stator voltage, rotor voltage, etc.

Hopefully it's something simple!

The one Honda 3000i problem I was never able to solve was Magnum MMS
inverters not accepting the AC input from the 3000i. We had similar systems
at 2 camps, and tried both inverters with both generators (had to swap via
heli of course) and it ended up as Magnum saying it's Honda's problem, and
Honda saying it's Magnum's problem.

Good luck!

Dan Fink
Owner, Buckville Energy Consulting LLC
IREC Certified Instructor for PV and Small Wind Installation
NABCEP Certified PV System Inspector
NABCEP PV Associate
d anbo...@gmail.com
970-672-4342




On Sat, Sep 4, 2021 at 8:41 AM John Blittersdorf <
john.blittersd...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I have a Honda 3000i for my off grid system that shows 84 vac output.  I
> suspect that the inverter is failing.  Just checking to see if any of you
> have seen this failure mode?
>
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[RE-wrenches] Honda 3000i low ac output

2021-09-04 Thread John Blittersdorf
I have a Honda 3000i for my off grid system that shows 84 vac output.  I
suspect that the inverter is failing.  Just checking to see if any of you
have seen this failure mode?

John Blittersdorf
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