[RE-wrenches] IRS Audit
I had to look into this once and it really isn't any more complex than the statement. It's not about UL listing or whatever. Does it generate electricity from solar? Is it installed on or connected to an occupied residential home? The restriction is that it has to be just the system itself. If you have to replace the roofing material before installing, that roofing material is not considered "qualified." Conduit in a trench to a ground mount is qualified. Landscaping work to clean up after the trench is not. Hilton Dier Missisquoi River Hydro LLC Renewable Energy Design ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the other: https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/ http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: http://www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] IRS Audit
The AHJ is looking for the UL certification. The IRS agent did not. The agent looked at the equipment and the displays to see that the system was operational, paid no attention to any labels. Pieter Huebner From: RE-wrenches On Behalf Of Christopher Warfel via RE-wrenches Sent: Tuesday, June 4, 2024 5:30 AM To: re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Cc: Christopher Warfel Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] IRS Audit Qualified equipment I think would be it's UL certification. I have never run into this issue though. Chris On 6/3/2024 4:53 PM, pieter offgridenterprises.org via RE-wrenches wrote: Yes and no, We had the IRS send an agent to one of our clients Ranch, and they asked to see the equipment but did not request any further documentation. Pieter Huebner From: RE-wrenches <mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org> On Behalf Of rick--- via RE-wrenches Sent: Monday, June 3, 2024 2:23 PM To: RE-wrenches <mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> Cc: r...@solshineenergy.com<mailto:r...@solshineenergy.com> Subject: [RE-wrenches] IRS Audit Wrenches, Has anyone had a customer that was being audited and requesting a manufacturers’ certification statement for their PV equipment? The only manufacturer that has been able to provide a statement has been REC. I’m attaching a copy for reference. Is there an assumption that most equipment qualifies? The IRS definition for “qualified solar electric property” is pretty vague - "Qualified solar electric property expenditure. The term "qualified solar electric property expenditure" means an expenditure for property which uses solar energy to generate electricity for use in a dwelling unit located in the United States and used as a residence by the taxpayer." Thanks, , rick brown SolShine Energy Alternatives, LLC Electrical & Solar Contracting Services www.SolShineEnergy.com<http://www.SolShineEnergy.com> Roanoke, VA Office: 540.235.3095 Mobile: 540.808.9502 VA Class A Contractor Lic# 2705147660 VA Master Electrician Lic# 2710062762 VA Alternative Energy Systems Installer NABCEP Certified PV Installation Professional 110112-21 CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE -- This email is intended only for the person(s) named in the message header. Unless otherwise indicated, it contains information that is confidential, privileged and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender of the error and delete the message. Thank you.” ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org<mailto:RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the other: https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/ http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: http://www.members.re-wrenches.org -- Christopher Warfel ENTECH Engineering Inc. PO Box 871, Block Island, RI 02807 401-477-5773 [EE Logo]<https://entech-engineering.com/Home/default.php> ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the other: https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/ http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: http://www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] IRS Audit
Qualified equipment I think would be it's UL certification. I have never run into this issue though. Chris On 6/3/2024 4:53 PM, pieter offgridenterprises.org via RE-wrenches wrote: Yes and no, We had the IRS send an agent to one of our clients Ranch, and they asked to see the equipment but did not request any further documentation. Pieter Huebner *From:*RE-wrenches *On Behalf Of *rick--- via RE-wrenches *Sent:* Monday, June 3, 2024 2:23 PM *To:* RE-wrenches *Cc:* r...@solshineenergy.com *Subject:* [RE-wrenches] IRS Audit Wrenches, Has anyone had a customer that was being audited and requesting a manufacturers’ certification statement for their PV equipment? The only manufacturer that has been able to provide a statement has been REC. I’m attaching a copy for reference. Is there an assumption that most equipment qualifies? The IRS definition for “qualified solar electric property” is pretty vague - "/Qualified solar electric property expenditure. The term "qualified solar electric property expenditure" means an expenditure for property which uses solar energy to generate electricity for use in a dwelling unit located in the United States and used as a residence by the taxpayer/." Thanks, , rick brown SolShine Energy Alternatives, LLC Electrical & Solar Contracting Services www.SolShineEnergy.com <http://www.SolShineEnergy.com> Roanoke, VA Office: 540.235.3095 Mobile: 540.808.9502 VA Class A Contractor Lic# 2705147660 VA Master Electrician Lic# 2710062762 VA Alternative Energy Systems Installer NABCEP Certified PV Installation Professional 110112-21 CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE -- This email is intended only for the person(s) named in the message header. Unless otherwise indicated, it contains information that is confidential, privileged and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender of the error and delete the message. Thank you.” ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance Pay optional member dues here:http://re-wrenches.org List Address:RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the other: https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/ http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: http://www.members.re-wrenches.org -- Christopher Warfel ENTECH Engineering Inc. PO Box 871, Block Island, RI 02807 401-477-5773 EE Logo <https://entech-engineering.com/Home/default.php> BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:4.0 N:Warfel;Christopher;;; TEL;VALUE=TEXT:401-447-5773 (c) NOTE:Use the cell phone number for all communications. Thank you. URL:https://www.entech-engineering.com END:VCARD ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the other: https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/ http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: http://www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] IRS Audit
Yes and no, We had the IRS send an agent to one of our clients Ranch, and they asked to see the equipment but did not request any further documentation. Pieter Huebner From: RE-wrenches On Behalf Of rick--- via RE-wrenches Sent: Monday, June 3, 2024 2:23 PM To: RE-wrenches Cc: r...@solshineenergy.com Subject: [RE-wrenches] IRS Audit Wrenches, Has anyone had a customer that was being audited and requesting a manufacturers’ certification statement for their PV equipment? The only manufacturer that has been able to provide a statement has been REC. I’m attaching a copy for reference. Is there an assumption that most equipment qualifies? The IRS definition for “qualified solar electric property” is pretty vague - "Qualified solar electric property expenditure. The term "qualified solar electric property expenditure" means an expenditure for property which uses solar energy to generate electricity for use in a dwelling unit located in the United States and used as a residence by the taxpayer." Thanks, , rick brown SolShine Energy Alternatives, LLC Electrical & Solar Contracting Services www.SolShineEnergy.com<http://www.SolShineEnergy.com> Roanoke, VA Office: 540.235.3095 Mobile: 540.808.9502 VA Class A Contractor Lic# 2705147660 VA Master Electrician Lic# 2710062762 VA Alternative Energy Systems Installer NABCEP Certified PV Installation Professional 110112-21 CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE -- This email is intended only for the person(s) named in the message header. Unless otherwise indicated, it contains information that is confidential, privileged and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender of the error and delete the message. Thank you.” ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the other: https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/ http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: http://www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] IRS Audit
Wont they accept a statement from the installer listing the equipment used?-GlennSent from my 'smart'phone, so please excuse typos and spelling errors.-- Original message--From: rick--- via RE-wrenchesDate: Mon, Jun 3, 2024 4:23 PMTo: RE-wrenches;Cc: r...@solshineenergy.com;Subject:[RE-wrenches] IRS AuditWrenches,Has anyone had a customer that was being audited and requesting a manufacturers’ certification statement for their PV equipment? The only manufacturer that has been able to provide a statement has been REC. I’m attaching a copy for reference. Is there an assumption that most equipment qualifies? The IRS definition for “qualified solar electric property” is pretty vague - "Qualified solar electric property expenditure. The term "qualified solar electric property expenditure" means an expenditure for property which uses solar energy to generate electricity for use in a dwelling unit located in the United States and used as a residence by the taxpayer."Thanks ,,___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the other: https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/ http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: http://www.members.re-wrenches.org
[RE-wrenches] IRS Audit
Wrenches,Has anyone had a customer that was being audited and requesting a manufacturers’ certification statement for their PV equipment? The only manufacturer that has been able to provide a statement has been REC. I’m attaching a copy for reference. Is there an assumption that most equipment qualifies? The IRS definition for “qualified solar electric property” is pretty vague - "Qualified solar electric property expenditure. The term "qualified solar electric property expenditure" means an expenditure for property which uses solar energy to generate electricity for use in a dwelling unit located in the United States and used as a residence by the taxpayer."Thanks,, Manufacturers Certification Statement April 2024.pdf Description: Adobe PDF document rick brownSolShine Energy Alternatives, LLCElectrical & Solar Contracting Serviceswww.SolShineEnergy.comRoanoke, VAOffice: 540.235.3095Mobile: 540.808.9502VA Class A Contractor Lic# 2705147660VA Master Electrician Lic# 2710062762VA Alternative Energy Systems Installer NABCEP Certified PV Installation Professional 110112-21CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE -- This email is intended only for the person(s) named inthe message header. Unless otherwise indicated, it contains information that isconfidential, privileged and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you havereceived this message in error, please notify the sender of the error and delete themessage. Thank you.” ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the other: https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/ http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: http://www.members.re-wrenches.org