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My favorite part was when the test results arrived by mail, it had a postage due notice on it. Had to pony up more $$ to tell if I passed or failed!! Glenn Burt From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Nick Vida Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 9:35 PM To: wrenches Subject: [RE-wrenches] NABCEP test my favorite part of the test was sitting for an ultra detailed exam that expected you to have certain things memorized that no engineer or electrician does't use resources for (like voltage drop, lag bolt ratings, and the rest) and getting the letter with the test location with the wrong address on it! I was sent to: 810 n. Poinsettia Santa Ana 92647 when the actual address was: 810 n. Poinsettia St. Santa Ana 92701 Imagine my surprise when I drove 40 miles to a city I barley know for a test you can't take if you are late, and I arrive in a sub-division! And yes, having a St, Rd or Ln is a big part of finding the place, as well as the correct zipcode! Nick I agree, but what really got me was all the most safe questions. I am glad that it is hard, however, because now that a c-10 can take it after 2 installs I think it is pretty hard to really expect too much respect. That being said, combined with my 6 years of installing, it is a nice additional credential. nick vida/ ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
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Gives a whole new meaning to non-profit. Jim My favorite part was when the test results arrived by mail, it had a postage due notice on it. Had to pony up more $$ to tell if I passed or failed!! Glenn Burt From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Nick Vida Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 9:35 PM To: wrenches Subject: [RE-wrenches] NABCEP test my favorite part of the test was sitting for an ultra detailed exam that expected you to have certain things memorized that no engineer or electrician does't use resources for (like voltage drop, lag bolt ratings, and the rest) and getting the letter with the test location with the wrong address on it! I was sent to: 810 n. Poinsettia Santa Ana 92647 when the actual address was: 810 n. Poinsettia St. Santa Ana 92701 Imagine my surprise when I drove 40 miles to a city I barley know for a test you can't take if you are late, and I arrive in a sub-division! And yes, having a St, Rd or Ln is a big part of finding the place, as well as the correct zipcode! Nick I agree, but what really got me was all the most safe questions. I am glad that it is hard, however, because now that a c-10 can take it after 2 installs I think it is pretty hard to really expect too much respect. That being said, combined with my 6 years of installing, it is a nice additional credential. nick vida/ ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
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Ezra, Do you follow guidelines as to the rights and responsibilities of test takers. Do test takers have a right to see the questions they got wrong? Larry Liesner Wirewiz Westport, CT Phone: 203-644-2404 Fax: 203-557-0556 wire...@gmail.com www.wire-wiz.com On Apr 1, 2011, at 1:14 AM, Andrew Truitt wrote: This is what Ezra Auerbach, Executive Director of NABCEP, has to say on the matter: Hi Nick et al, A couple of clarifications. It has always taken a month or more for NABCEP to issue score reports on installer exams. Entry Level results tend to be quicker and this might be a source for confusion. I'll do my best to explain the passing score process. There is no set percentage or number of correct answers. Each exam is different from the last and is a mix of field proven and new questions. We use professional psychometricians for exam design and evaluation. They work with the subject matter experts on the exam committee. After each exam they all meet and review the performance of the exam with particular focus on new questions. Sometimes a question performs poorly which is to say a very high percentage of candidates who otherwise did well got it wrong. This sort of item is flagged for committee review. They sometimes decide it was a poor question and choose not to score it which is one reason for variance between exams. The Psychometrician uses a well established and accepted statistical review protocol that is designed to ensure consistency across multiple exam administrations. They then present their professional recommendations to the Board for their acceptance. This again is standard procedure for Board exams. In summary NABCEP follows well established internationally recognized scoring protocols that are fully psychometrically defensible which is part of the reason our PV Installer Certification has received accreditation by ANSI to their 17024 standard for personnel certification. We remain the only PV credentialing body in North America to have been accredited to this standard. I hope this helps. To each and every Wrench who is waiting for their exam results-I hope you passed. Regards, Ezra Ezra Auerbach Executive Director NABCEP For a brighter energy future, Andrew Truitt Principal Truitt Renewable Energy Consulting NABCEP Certified PV Installer™ (ID# 032407-66) (202) 486-7507 http://www.linkedin.com/pub/andrew-truitt/8/622/713 24 copy.jpg Don't get me wrong: I love nuclear energy! It's just that I prefer fusion to fission. And it just so happens that there's an enormous fusion reactor safely banked a few million miles from us. It delivers more than we could ever use in just about 8 minutes. And it's wireless! ~William McDonough On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 11:35 AM, wire...@gmail.com wrote: Nick, The passing grade is 70, they don't change that. I think they just wan't to see if any one question was consistently answered wrong and so maybe there was a problem with the question and they may decide that everyone gets that question right. I would guess that rarely happens. As far as the six weeks to wait for pass/fail notification, they keep you hangin! They notify you by snail mail, not email. Hint: if the plain brown envelope says do not bend on it, pop the champagne, you passed. Larry Liesner Wirewiz Westport, CT Phone: 203-644-2404 Fax: 203-557-0556 wire...@gmail.com www.wire-wiz.com On Mar 31, 2011, at 12:37 PM, Jamie Johnson wrote: That sounds about right, a NABCEP board member told me they meet and vote on the difficulty of each question. So 5-7 weeks of wondering if you have what it takes to pass. When you get the email notification it will say congratulations or something to that effect in the subject line when you pass, not sure what it says if you don't. Jamie Johnson NABCEP Certified Solar PV Installer NABCEP Certified PV Technical Sales Professional General Manager SOLAR POWER ELECTRIC (941) 380 - 0098 EC13001765 www.SPEFL.com Sent from my iPhone On Mar 31, 2011, at 11:42 AM, Nick Soleil nicksoleilso...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi wrenches: I sat for the NABCEP exam last weekend, and was surprised yesterday to hear that we will not receive the exam results for another month! I had heard that it only took a week. What was your experience. Also, the e-mail yesterday said that the Board has to decide what grade will be a passing grade? Can that be true? Does the grade get set to control the number who pass or fail? That doesn't seem right. Nick Soleil Project Manager Advanced Alternative Energy Solutions, LLC PO Box 657 Petaluma, CA 94953 Cell: 707-321-2937 Office: 707-789-9537 Fax: 707-769-9037 From: Hans Frederickson h...@fredelectric.com To: RE-wrenches re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Sent: Thu, March 31, 2011 8:15:19 AM Subject: Re:
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Larry, This also from Ezra -who, because of a bit of silliness on the part of the moderator of this list- cannot post here. Larry, NABCEP provides test takers with a passing score and a partial breakdown of their score by exam blueprint area. It is always a bit confusing because we report only on those exam blueprint areas where there are sufficient number of questions for the information provided to be relevant. For example informing a candidate that they scored 50% in an area where there were only two questions provided little useful information but informing the same candidate that they scored 50% on an area where there are ten questions clearly informs them that this is an area where further study is required. We do not provide candidates with individual questions they missed as this would have a strong negative impact on the security of the exam. If we informed candidates on individual questions we would have to retire each exam question we did so with which would put a huge burden of developing new questions on our volunteer exam committee. It would also but a burden on the exam itself as we would be continually retiring statically field proven questions. I know it is disappointing to candidates to not see the questions they missed, and if I was a candidate I'd likely be frustrated as well. I also know that it is simply not practical to do so and that our procedures are in accordance to established and recognized testing protocols. Sincerely, Ezra Auerbach Executive Director eauerb...@nabcep.org To which I also add to replay to your last post: You are incorrect that 70 is always the passing grade. It can be a little lower or even a little higher depending on the difficulty of that particular test and if we have identified any questions which have proved to be unclear or ambiguous. It takes time for our testing agency to compile that data. It takes time for our test committee to re-evaluate the questions and how they were answered. Lastly, each and every Certificant (not Entry Level) testing results comes before the Board with the raw information and the recommendations of our committee for a final decision and approval of a passing score. We go to great lengths to make sure all our testing is as fair and unbiased as possible. As Ezra points out, it would be HUGELY expensive to have to replace our question pool for every test because we revealed the questions which you missed to you. Surely you can see that those questions would be widely circulated by the time candidates sat for the next test, making them useless. Bob-O On Apr 1, 2011, at 5:57 AM, wire...@gmail.com wrote: Ezra, Do you follow guidelines as to the rights and responsibilities of test takers. Do test takers have a right to see the questions they got wrong? Larry Liesner Wirewiz Westport, CT Phone: 203-644-2404 Fax: 203-557-0556 wire...@gmail.com www.wire-wiz.com ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
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Bob-O, Sorry about the 70. I understand about not being able to tell us what we got wrong, those questions would circulate pretty fast, not by me of course. I've been hard on NABCEP, especially privately to Ezra, lots of frustrations taken out on Ezra, but he takes it well, and follows up with thorough explanations about policies, etc. and understands my (and I'm sure others) frustrations and unlike me sometimes, is always polite. Enough sucking up. Hey, I can't let you go without taking another shot about that ad in Home Power. Even if I pass this time, I will still feel that ad is unfair. We are all in the same industry and we are all trying to make a living here but that ad hits below the belt to highly qualified non certificants. Thank you. Larry Liesner Wirewiz Westport, CT Phone: 203-644-2404 Fax: 203-557-0556 wire...@gmail.com www.wire-wiz.com On Apr 1, 2011, at 12:34 PM, Bob-O Schultze wrote: Larry, This also from Ezra -who, because of a bit of silliness on the part of the moderator of this list- cannot post here. Larry, NABCEP provides test takers with a passing score and a partial breakdown of their score by exam blueprint area. It is always a bit confusing because we report only on those exam blueprint areas where there are sufficient number of questions for the information provided to be relevant. For example informing a candidate that they scored 50% in an area where there were only two questions provided little useful information but informing the same candidate that they scored 50% on an area where there are ten questions clearly informs them that this is an area where further study is required. We do not provide candidates with individual questions they missed as this would have a strong negative impact on the security of the exam. If we informed candidates on individual questions we would have to retire each exam question we did so with which would put a huge burden of developing new questions on our volunteer exam committee. It would also but a burden on the exam itself as we would be continually retiring statically field proven questions. I know it is disappointing to candidates to not see the questions they missed, and if I was a candidate I'd likely be frustrated as well. I also know that it is simply not practical to do so and that our procedures are in accordance to established and recognized testing protocols. Sincerely, Ezra Auerbach Executive Director eauerb...@nabcep.org To which I also add to replay to your last post: You are incorrect that 70 is always the passing grade. It can be a little lower or even a little higher depending on the difficulty of that particular test and if we have identified any questions which have proved to be unclear or ambiguous. It takes time for our testing agency to compile that data. It takes time for our test committee to re-evaluate the questions and how they were answered. Lastly, each and every Certificant (not Entry Level) testing results comes before the Board with the raw information and the recommendations of our committee for a final decision and approval of a passing score. We go to great lengths to make sure all our testing is as fair and unbiased as possible. As Ezra points out, it would be HUGELY expensive to have to replace our question pool for every test because we revealed the questions which you missed to you. Surely you can see that those questions would be widely circulated by the time candidates sat for the next test, making them useless. Bob-O On Apr 1, 2011, at 5:57 AM, wire...@gmail.com wrote: Ezra, Do you follow guidelines as to the rights and responsibilities of test takers. Do test takers have a right to see the questions they got wrong? Larry Liesner Wirewiz Westport, CT Phone: 203-644-2404 Fax: 203-557-0556 wire...@gmail.com www.wire-wiz.com ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
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Hello Ezra, Bob-o, and wrenches: I guess if I were to pass the exam, and if I could find my results, I would be content. However, I do have a concern that if the test is calibrated to achieve a 50% pass rate, that the problems must be made vague and confusing to cause difficulty. Here are my primary concerns. - The test material did not match the study guide - The most recent test seems to test us on a number of obscure OSHA facts, that do not really pertain to designing and installing solar, to keep the test difficult. - With each test cycle, the candidates are told they need to study x number of hours to pass the test, but only 50% pass, so the next group has to study 2x times to pass the exam. As more folks study harder and harder to pass the test, the test only gets harder or the pass level is raised to keep the same level of a 50% pass rate. Over time we have to study more and more obscure facts, that have less to do with solar installing and designing, and more to do with short-term memorization of unimportant material. Additionally, I believe that the test contained some mistakes. One question required an analysis of two roof surfaces, and we had to find which surface would produce more power, and how much more power. However, the azimuths were listed as 'Compass' degree readings, but the provided chart gave outputs for 'True' degrees. The question did not provide the magnetic declination for the site! Nick Soleil Project Manager Advanced Alternative Energy Solutions, LLC PO Box 657 Petaluma, CA 94953 Cell: 707-321-2937 Office: 707-789-9537 Fax:707-769-9037 From: Bob-O Schultze bo...@electronconnection.com To: RE-wrenches re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Sent: Fri, April 1, 2011 9:34:51 AM Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] NABCEP Test Larry, This also from Ezra -who, because of a bit of silliness on the part of the moderator of this list- cannot post here. Larry, NABCEP provides test takers with a passing score and a partial breakdown of their score by exam blueprint area. It is always a bit confusing because we report only on those exam blueprint areas where there are sufficient number of questions for the information provided to be relevant. For example informing a candidate that they scored 50% in an area where there were only two questions provided little useful information but informing the same candidate that they scored 50% on an area where there are ten questions clearly informs them that this is an area where further study is required. We do not provide candidates with individual questions they missed as this would have a strong negative impact on the security of the exam. If we informed candidates on individual questions we would have to retire each exam question we did so with which would put a huge burden of developing new questions on our volunteer exam committee. It would also but a burden on the exam itself as we would be continually retiring statically field proven questions. I know it is disappointing to candidates to not see the questions they missed, and if I was a candidate I'd likely be frustrated as well. I also know that it is simply not practical to do so and that our procedures are in accordance to established and recognized testing protocols. Sincerely, Ezra Auerbach Executive Director eauerb...@nabcep.org To which I also add to replay to your last post: You are incorrect that 70 is always the passing grade. It can be a little lower or even a little higher depending on the difficulty of that particular test and if we have identified any questions which have proved to be unclear or ambiguous. It takes time for our testing agency to compile that data. It takes time for our test committee to re-evaluate the questions and how they were answered. Lastly, each and every Certificant (not Entry Level) testing results comes before the Board with the raw information and the recommendations of our committee for a final decision and approval of a passing score. We go to great lengths to make sure all our testing is as fair and unbiased as possible. As Ezra points out, it would be HUGELY expensive to have to replace our question pool for every test because we revealed the questions which you missed to you. Surely you can see that those questions would be widely circulated by the time candidates sat for the next test, making them useless. Bob-O On Apr 1, 2011, at 5:57 AM, wire...@gmail.com wrote: Ezra, Do you follow guidelines as to the rights and responsibilities of test takers. Do test takers have a right to see the questions they got wrong? Larry Liesner Wirewiz Westport, CT Phone: 203-644-2404 Fax: 203-557-0556 wire...@gmail.com www.wire-wiz.com ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re
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HI Nick I am sympathic. How ever I keep complaining the test is too easy and Obscure. Yes, too easy and the questions are obscure. I think NABCEP is trying to make a fair test, question writing is very hard, I am sure we all want the highest standards for NABCEP it is the way we are going get respect and be named on bid requests, I want a NABCEP installer rings because we represent quality. Thanks and good luck, because luck is part of it. Darryl From: Nick Soleil nicksoleilso...@yahoo.com To: RE-wrenches re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Sent: Fri, April 1, 2011 1:43:55 PM Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] NABCEP Test Hello Ezra, Bob-o, and wrenches: I guess if I were to pass the exam, and if I could find my results, I would be content. However, I do have a concern that if the test is calibrated to achieve a 50% pass rate, that the problems must be made vague and confusing to cause difficulty. Here are my primary concerns. - The test material did not match the study guide - The most recent test seems to test us on a number of obscure OSHA facts, that do not really pertain to designing and installing solar, to keep the test difficult. - With each test cycle, the candidates are told they need to study x number of hours to pass the test, but only 50% pass, so the next group has to study 2x times to pass the exam. As more folks study harder and harder to pass the test, the test only gets harder or the pass level is raised to keep the same level of a 50% pass rate. Over time we have to study more and more obscure facts, that have less to do with solar installing and designing, and more to do with short-term memorization of unimportant material. Additionally, I believe that the test contained some mistakes. One question required an analysis of two roof surfaces, and we had to find which surface would produce more power, and how much more power. However, the azimuths were listed as 'Compass' degree readings, but the provided chart gave outputs for 'True' degrees. The question did not provide the magnetic declination for the site! Nick Soleil Project Manager Advanced Alternative Energy Solutions, LLC PO Box 657 Petaluma, CA 94953 Cell: 707-321-2937 Office: 707-789-9537 Fax: 707-769-9037 From: Bob-O Schultze bo...@electronconnection.com To: RE-wrenches re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Sent: Fri, April 1, 2011 9:34:51 AM Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] NABCEP Test Larry, This also from Ezra -who, because of a bit of silliness on the part of the moderator of this list- cannot post here. Larry, NABCEP provides test takers with a passing score and a partial breakdown of their score by exam blueprint area. It is always a bit confusing because we report only on those exam blueprint areas where there are sufficient number of questions for the information provided to be relevant. For example informing a candidate that they scored 50% in an area where there were only two questions provided little useful information but informing the same candidate that they scored 50% on an area where there are ten questions clearly informs them that this is an area where further study is required. We do not provide candidates with individual questions they missed as this would have a strong negative impact on the security of the exam. If we informed candidates on individual questions we would have to retire each exam question we did so with which would put a huge burden of developing new questions on our volunteer exam committee. It would also but a burden on the exam itself as we would be continually retiring statically field proven questions. I know it is disappointing to candidates to not see the questions they missed, and if I was a candidate I'd likely be frustrated as well. I also know that it is simply not practical to do so and that our procedures are in accordance to established and recognized testing protocols. Sincerely, Ezra Auerbach Executive Director eauerb...@nabcep.org To which I also add to replay to your last post: You are incorrect that 70 is always the passing grade. It can be a little lower or even a little higher depending on the difficulty of that particular test and if we have identified any questions which have proved to be unclear or ambiguous. It takes time for our testing agency to compile that data. It takes time for our test committee to re-evaluate the questions and how they were answered. Lastly, each and every Certificant (not Entry Level) testing results comes before the Board with the raw information and the recommendations of our committee for a final decision and approval of a passing score. We go to great lengths to make sure all our testing is as fair and unbiased as possible. As Ezra points out, it would be HUGELY expensive to have to replace our question pool for every test because we revealed the questions which you missed to you. Surely
[RE-wrenches] NABCEP test
my favorite part of the test was sitting for an ultra detailed exam that expected you to have certain things memorized that no engineer or electrician does't use resources for (like voltage drop, lag bolt ratings, and the rest) and getting the letter with the test location with the wrong address on it! I was sent to: 810 n. Poinsettia Santa Ana 92647 when the actual address was: 810 n. Poinsettia St. Santa Ana 92701 Imagine my surprise when I drove 40 miles to a city I barley know for a test you can't take if you are late, and I arrive in a sub-division! And yes, having a St, Rd or Ln is a big part of finding the place, as well as the correct zipcode! Nick I agree, but what really got me was all the most safe questions. I am glad that it is hard, however, because now that a c-10 can take it after 2 installs I think it is pretty hard to really expect too much respect. That being said, combined with my 6 years of installing, it is a nice additional credential. nick vida/ ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
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Hi wrenches: I sat for the NABCEP exam last weekend, and was surprised yesterday to hear that we will not receive the exam results for another month! I had heard that it only took a week. What was your experience. Also, the e-mail yesterday said that the Board has to decide what grade will be a passing grade? Can that be true? Does the grade get set to control the number who pass or fail? That doesn't seem right. Nick Soleil Project Manager Advanced Alternative Energy Solutions, LLC PO Box 657 Petaluma, CA 94953 Cell: 707-321-2937 Office: 707-789-9537 Fax:707-769-9037 From: Hans Frederickson h...@fredelectric.com To: RE-wrenches re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Sent: Thu, March 31, 2011 8:15:19 AM Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Expansion joints We used an OZ-Gedney expansion coupling for 1-1/4 EMT on a recent job. The part # is TX-125 for 1-1/4, and it would be TX-150 for 1-1/2. It is the same as the OZ-Gedney AX expansion coupling for rigid conduit, but uses a rigid nipple and EMT connectors to adapt to EMT. The assembly is UL listed. -Hans From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Erika Weliczko Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2011 5:54 PM To: 'RE-wrenches' Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Expansion joints I recently used a Hubbell Killark product for rigid/IMC and was not happy with how the threads of the coupling engaged in factory conduit threads. Crousehinds XJG-EMT series is intended for EMT. And is described as being used indoors or outdoors. The EMT couplings mostly seem to be compression. REpower SOLUTIONS www.repowersolutions.com P: 216.268.2275 C: 216.402.4458 From:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Jamie Johnson Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 2:33 PM To: RE-wrenches Subject: [SPAM] Re: [RE-wrenches] Expansion joints Peter, Cooper makes one for 1.5 emt, not sure if it is rated for wet locations or not. part #XJG54 EMT, it allows for up to 4 max of conduit movement. Jamie Johnson NABCEP Certified PV Technical Sales Professional NABCEP Certified Solar PV Installer General Manager SOLAR POWER ELECTRIC Original Message Subject: [RE-wrenches] Expansion joints From:Peter Parrish peter.parr...@calsolareng.com; Date:Tue, March 29, 2011 1:04 pm To: 'RE-wrenches' re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Doesanyone have information (manu and part number) for expansion joints for 1-1/2 EMT? I have also heard that many EJs are designed for rigidconduit (RMC) and may not be directly applicable to EMT. -Peter Peter T. Parrish, Ph.D., President California SolarEngineering, Inc. 820 Cynthia Ave., Los Angeles, CA 90065 CA Lic.854779, NABCEP Cert. 031806-26 peter.parr...@calsolareng.com Ph 323-258-8883, Mobile 323-839-6108, Fax323-258-8885 ___ Listsponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org Listrules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Checkout participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] NABCEP Test
Nick, The passing grade is 70, they don't change that. I think they just wan't to see if any one question was consistently answered wrong and so maybe there was a problem with the question and they may decide that everyone gets that question right. I would guess that rarely happens. As far as the six weeks to wait for pass/fail notification, they keep you hangin! They notify you by snail mail, not email. Hint: if the plain brown envelope says do not bend on it, pop the champagne, you passed. Larry Liesner Wirewiz Westport, CT Phone: 203-644-2404 Fax: 203-557-0556 wire...@gmail.com www.wire-wiz.com On Mar 31, 2011, at 12:37 PM, Jamie Johnson wrote: That sounds about right, a NABCEP board member told me they meet and vote on the difficulty of each question. So 5-7 weeks of wondering if you have what it takes to pass. When you get the email notification it will say congratulations or something to that effect in the subject line when you pass, not sure what it says if you don't. Jamie Johnson NABCEP Certified Solar PV Installer NABCEP Certified PV Technical Sales Professional General Manager SOLAR POWER ELECTRIC (941) 380 - 0098 EC13001765 www.SPEFL.com Sent from my iPhone On Mar 31, 2011, at 11:42 AM, Nick Soleil nicksoleilso...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi wrenches: I sat for the NABCEP exam last weekend, and was surprised yesterday to hear that we will not receive the exam results for another month! I had heard that it only took a week. What was your experience. Also, the e-mail yesterday said that the Board has to decide what grade will be a passing grade? Can that be true? Does the grade get set to control the number who pass or fail? That doesn't seem right. Nick Soleil Project Manager Advanced Alternative Energy Solutions, LLC PO Box 657 Petaluma, CA 94953 Cell: 707-321-2937 Office: 707-789-9537 Fax: 707-769-9037 From: Hans Frederickson h...@fredelectric.com To: RE-wrenches re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Sent: Thu, March 31, 2011 8:15:19 AM Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Expansion joints We used an OZ-Gedney expansion coupling for 1-1/4 EMT on a recent job. The part # is TX-125 for 1-1/4, and it would be TX-150 for 1-1/2. It is the same as the OZ-Gedney AX expansion coupling for rigid conduit, but uses a rigid nipple and EMT connectors to adapt to EMT. The assembly is UL listed. -Hans From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Erika Weliczko Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2011 5:54 PM To: 'RE-wrenches' Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Expansion joints I recently used a Hubbell Killark product for rigid/IMC and was not happy with how the threads of the coupling engaged in factory conduit threads. Crousehinds XJG-EMT series is intended for EMT. And is described as being used indoors or outdoors. The EMT couplings mostly seem to be compression. REpower SOLUTIONS www.repowersolutions.com P: 216.268.2275 C: 216.402.4458 From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Jamie Johnson Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 2:33 PM To: RE-wrenches Subject: [SPAM] Re: [RE-wrenches] Expansion joints Peter, Cooper makes one for 1.5 emt, not sure if it is rated for wet locations or not. part #XJG54 EMT, it allows for up to 4 max of conduit movement. Jamie Johnson NABCEP Certified PV Technical Sales Professional NABCEP Certified Solar PV Installer General Manager SOLAR POWER ELECTRIC Original Message Subject: [RE-wrenches] Expansion joints From: Peter Parrish peter.parr...@calsolareng.com; Date: Tue, March 29, 2011 1:04 pm To: 'RE-wrenches' re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Does anyone have information (manu and part number) for expansion joints for 1-1/2 EMT? I have also heard that many EJs are designed for rigid conduit (RMC) and may not be directly applicable to EMT. - Peter Peter T. Parrish, Ph.D., President California Solar Engineering, Inc. 820 Cynthia Ave., Los Angeles, CA 90065 CA Lic. 854779, NABCEP Cert. 031806-26 peter.parr...@calsolareng.com Ph 323-258-8883, Mobile 323-839-6108, Fax 323-258-8885 ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] [SPAM] Re: wrenches] NABCEP Test: Codebook or Handbook?
Wrenches, I took the September exam. The Codebook was provided. The Handbook was not. Thank you, Randy Hatch Third Sun Solar and Wind Power 740-597-3111 - Original Message - From: Louis Woofenden lo...@woofenden.net To: RE-wrenches re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 12:41:58 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] [SPAM] Re: wrenches] NABCEP Test: Codebook or Handbook? Hi Mike, I took the Solar Thermal exam in September, and the guys on the other side of the room taking the PV exam were given codebooks. We certainly had just the code books back in the fall of '04 when I took the PV exam. But perhaps something has changed very recently? Best, Louis Woofenden Tucson, AZ ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] NABCEP Test: Codebook or Handbook?
Hi Gang. Rebecca Eaton, Exec. Dir. of NABCEP asked me to pass this on to you. If you have any questions about NABCEP policy and regs, please contact her directly at rea...@nabcep.org or (800) 654-0021. Per the Candidate Information Handbook Section 6.2 on www.nabcep.org, following is some detail about what is provided during the exam. Please note that NABCEP has always used the Casio fx 260 solar Fraction calculator. Fortunately, when supplies need to be replenished, this model has remained available, although that may not always be the case. 6.2 What to Bring to the Exam The NABCEP certification exam is designed to be completed with the aid of the National Electrical Code®. The text and materials required to take the test will be provided for each candidate at the test site, including: 1. 2008 National Electrical Code, NFPA 70 2. Calculator (For example, a Casio fx260, a Texas Instruments TI-30Xa, or a similar model) 3. Two #2 pencils All materials will be returned to the Proctor at the end of the exam, where they will be inspected. No changes are to be made to the National Electrical Code® text or to the calculators, and under no condition will these items leave the testing room at any time. In addition to the materials that NABCEP will supply, candidates may bring water in a closeable container. No other food items are allowed in the testing room. Any personal items or supplies needed during the examination must be encased in a clear plastic bag, no larger than 8.5 X 11 in size. Please be advised that due to circumstances beyond our control, examination sites may experience minor disturbances. It is recommended that candidates who are sensitive to noise bring earplugs. 6.3 What Not to Bring to the Examination Unauthorized supplies will be subject to removal by the testing officials at the examination site. The following items are NOT allowed in the examination room and will be confiscated during the exam and returned afterward: Watches a clock will be provided in the room. Any part of workbooks and materials, bound or loose-leaf notes. Handwritten and typewritten notes are not allowed. Pull-off labels, removable tabs, paper clips, or metal clamps. Paper, writing tablets, or notepads. Highlighters. Personal calculators and electronic organizers. Cameras, tape recorders, or computers. Pagers, electronic transmitting devices, or telephones. Canisters of mace, pepper spray, or other personal defense items. Purses, briefcases, portfolios, fanny packs, or backpacks a space within the testing room will be provided for you to leave bags of this kind. Any personal supplies that you need in the exam with you (inhalers, extra glasses, tissues) should be placed in a clear plastic bag no larger than 8.5 x 11. ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] NABCEP Test: Codebook or Handbook?
Michael, Thanks for passing that along. And thanks to Rebecca for clearing that up. - Mike -- Michael Kelly Project Engineer Project Manager SolarFlair Energy, Inc. 1 Knoll Rd. Hopkinton, MA 01748 Direct Mobile: 617-899-9840 Direct Fax: 781-272-0748 Main Phone: 508-293-4293 Main Fax: 508-293-4003 m...@solarflair.com On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 6:34 PM, Michael Welch michael.we...@re-wrenches.org wrote: Hi Gang. Rebecca Eaton, Exec. Dir. of NABCEP asked me to pass this on to you. If you have any questions about NABCEP policy and regs, please contact her directly at rea...@nabcep.org or (800) 654-0021. Per the Candidate Information Handbook Section 6.2 on www.nabcep.org, following is some detail about what is provided during the exam. Please note that NABCEP has always used the Casio fx 260 solar Fraction calculator. Fortunately, when supplies need to be replenished, this model has remained available, although that may not always be the case. *6.2 What to Bring to the Exam * The NABCEP certification exam is designed to be completed with the aid of the National Electrical Code(R). The text and materials required to take the test will be provided for each candidate at the test site, including: *1. 2008 National Electrical Code, NFPA 70 *2. Calculator (For example, a Casio fx260, a Texas Instruments TI-30Xa, or a similar model) 3. Two #2 pencils All materials will be returned to the Proctor at the end of the exam, where they will be inspected. No changes are to be made to the National Electrical Code(R) text or to the calculators, and under no condition will these items leave the testing room at any time. In addition to the materials that NABCEP will supply, candidates may bring water in a closeable container. No other food items are allowed in the testing room. Any personal items or supplies needed during the examination must be encased in a clear plastic bag, no larger than 8.5 X 11 in size. Please be advised that due to circumstances beyond our control, examination sites may experience minor disturbances. It is recommended that candidates who are sensitive to noise bring earplugs. *6.3 What Not to Bring to the Examination * Unauthorized supplies will be subject to removal by the testing officials at the examination site. The following items are NOT allowed in the examination room and will be confiscated during the exam and returned afterward: Watches – a clock will be provided in the room. Any part of workbooks and materials, bound or loose-leaf notes. Handwritten and typewritten notes are not allowed. Pull-off labels, removable tabs, paper clips, or metal clamps. Paper, writing tablets, or notepads. Highlighters. Personal calculators and electronic organizers. Cameras, tape recorders, or computers. Pagers, electronic transmitting devices, or telephones. Canisters of mace, pepper spray, or other personal defense items. Purses, briefcases, portfolios, fanny packs, or backpacks – a space within the testing room will be provided for you to leave bags of this kind. Any personal supplies that you need in the exam with you (inhalers, extra glasses, tissues) should be placed in a clear plastic bag no larger than 8.5 x 11. ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] [SPAM] Re: wrenches] NABCEP Test: Codebook or Handbook?
Hi Mike, I took the Solar Thermal exam in September, and the guys on the other side of the room taking the PV exam were given codebooks. We certainly had just the code books back in the fall of '04 when I took the PV exam. But perhaps something has changed very recently? Best, Louis Woofenden Tucson, AZ ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
