Re: [RE-wrenches] Panels with 20.1% efficiency rating?
Try Infinium modules offered by ML Solar in Campbell California. From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Lou Russo Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2014 8:16 AM To: RE-wrenches Subject: [RE-wrenches] Panels with 20.1% efficiency rating? Wrenches, I am looking for panels with a 20.1% efficiency rating or better, that are NOT Sun Power. My distributors can not acquire anything even near that. Any leads or resources to check would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! Aloha, Lou Russo (440) 345 6762 ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html List rules & etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
[RE-wrenches] Panels with 20.1% efficiency rating
There is a theoretical physical limit for silicon based cells around 34% efficiency, so 20% for a whole module is quite good. To get past 34% researchers have gone to multi junction cells and concentrators, but it isn't practical for our purposes. Even with that they've only gotten into the low forties. What we really need now is not more efficient modules but cheaper mounting hardware. Ground mounting is getting as expensive as modules. Hilton Dier III Renewable Energy Design Solar Gain, LLC Missisquoi River Hydro LLC ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html List rules & etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] Panels with 20.1% efficiency rating?
Speaking to the U.S. market: I've been a SPR dealer 3 different times (on again, off again, currently on). Because I have to bid against non-SPR systems all day long I've had to do my homework on this issue. From what I've read in the literature, there are no commercially available mods that are in the 20's except SPR. Other high eff claims are cell eff or non-commercial/space tech stuff. Too bad. Can't wait for solar R&D to break the ceiling and reach commercially viable efficiencies in the 50's at least. Eric Stikes Owner, SunHarvest Solar CA. Solar Contractor #968280 Founding Director, GoodSun Solar CA. Non-profit Corp. 001.530.798.3738 (cell) www.harvesthesun.com [message sent from cell phone] > On Dec 20, 2014, at 3:28 PM, "b...@midnitesolar.com" > wrote: > > > If you ~really~ need high efficiency solar panels, you could go here... > > http://www.spectrolab.com/solarpanels.htm > > Greater than ~30% efficiency if you don't mind paying about $250 per watt. > > boB > > > >> On 12/20/2014 2:34 PM, Larry wrote: >> Hey Marco, >> >> I pulled the data sheet to scan it and what did I see? CELL efficiency is >> 21.1%, not module efficiency. I guess I told all my customers >> wrongsheesh! >> >> I will email you the data sheet. >> >> Larry >> >> On 12/20/14 10:41 AM, Marco Mangelsdorf wrote: >>> Can you please provide a spec sheet on this mod, Larry? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> marco >>> >>> From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On >>> Behalf Of Larry >>> Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2014 7:39 AM >>> To: RE-wrenches >>> Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Panels with 20.1% efficiency rating? >>> >>> Right August, it was the Panasonic HIT 240 that is 21.1% . The newer ones >>> are less. >>> >>> >>> On 12/20/14 9:53 AM, August Goers wrote: >>> Hi Lou, >>> >>> The LG Mono X NeON 305 W 60 cell is 18.6% according to their website. I >>> think that is about the best non-SunPower option you can readily get these >>> days. >>> >>> http://www.lg.com/us/commercial/solar-panels/lg-LG305N1C-B3 >>> >>> >>> Even Panasonic modules are only 19.4%: >>> http://eu-solar.panasonic.net/en/products/n-240-n-245/ >>> >>> Best, August >>> >>> >>> >>> From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On >>> Behalf Of Lou Russo >>> Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2014 8:16 AM >>> To: RE-wrenches >>> Subject: [RE-wrenches] Panels with 20.1% efficiency rating? >>> >>> Wrenches, >>> >>> I am looking for panels with a 20.1% efficiency rating or better, that are >>> NOT Sun Power. My distributors can not acquire anything even near that. Any >>> leads or resources to check would be greatly appreciated. >>> >>> Thanks! >>> >>> Aloha, >>> >>> Lou Russo >>> (440) 345 6762 > > ___ > List sponsored by Redwood Alliance > > List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org > > Change listserver email address & settings: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List-Archive: > http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html > > List rules & etiquette: > www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm > > Check out or update participant bios: > www.members.re-wrenches.org > ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html List rules & etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] Panels with 20.1% efficiency rating?
If you ~really~ need high efficiency solar panels, you could go here... http://www.spectrolab.com/solarpanels.htm Greater than ~30% efficiency if you don't mind paying about $250 per watt. boB On 12/20/2014 2:34 PM, Larry wrote: Hey Marco, I pulled the data sheet to scan it and what did I see? CELL efficiency is 21.1%, not module efficiency. I guess I told all my customers wrongsheesh! I will email you the data sheet. Larry On 12/20/14 10:41 AM, Marco Mangelsdorf wrote: Can you please provide a spec sheet on this mod, Larry? Thanks, marco *From:*RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] *On Behalf Of *Larry *Sent:* Saturday, December 20, 2014 7:39 AM *To:* RE-wrenches *Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] Panels with 20.1% efficiency rating? Right August, it was the Panasonic HIT 240 that is 21.1% . The newer ones are less. On 12/20/14 9:53 AM, August Goers wrote: Hi Lou, The LG Mono X NeON 305 W 60 cell is 18.6% according to their website. I think that is about the best non-SunPower option you can readily get these days. http://www.lg.com/us/commercial/solar-panels/lg-LG305N1C-B3 Even Panasonic modules are only 19.4%: http://eu-solar.panasonic.net/en/products/n-240-n-245/ Best, August *From:*RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org <mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org>] *On Behalf Of *Lou Russo *Sent:* Saturday, December 20, 2014 8:16 AM *To:* RE-wrenches *Subject:* [RE-wrenches] Panels with 20.1% efficiency rating? Wrenches, I am looking for panels with a 20.1% efficiency rating or better, that are NOT Sun Power. My distributors can not acquire anything even near that. Any leads or resources to check would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! Aloha, Lou Russo (440) 345 6762 ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html List rules & etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] Panels with 20.1% efficiency rating?
Hey Marco, I pulled the data sheet to scan it and what did I see? CELL efficiency is 21.1%, not module efficiency. I guess I told all my customers wrongsheesh! I will email you the data sheet. Larry On 12/20/14 10:41 AM, Marco Mangelsdorf wrote: Can you please provide a spec sheet on this mod, Larry? Thanks, marco *From:*RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] *On Behalf Of *Larry *Sent:* Saturday, December 20, 2014 7:39 AM *To:* RE-wrenches *Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] Panels with 20.1% efficiency rating? Right August, it was the Panasonic HIT 240 that is 21.1% . The newer ones are less. On 12/20/14 9:53 AM, August Goers wrote: Hi Lou, The LG Mono X NeON 305 W 60 cell is 18.6% according to their website. I think that is about the best non-SunPower option you can readily get these days. http://www.lg.com/us/commercial/solar-panels/lg-LG305N1C-B3 Even Panasonic modules are only 19.4%: http://eu-solar.panasonic.net/en/products/n-240-n-245/ Best, August *From:*RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org <mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org>] *On Behalf Of *Lou Russo *Sent:* Saturday, December 20, 2014 8:16 AM *To:* RE-wrenches *Subject:* [RE-wrenches] Panels with 20.1% efficiency rating? Wrenches, I am looking for panels with a 20.1% efficiency rating or better, that are NOT Sun Power. My distributors can not acquire anything even near that. Any leads or resources to check would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! Aloha, Lou Russo (440) 345 6762 ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance List Address:RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org <mailto:RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html List rules & etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm <http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm> Check out or update participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org <http://www.members.re-wrenches.org> ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html List rules & etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html List rules & etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] Panels with 20.1% efficiency rating?
Can you please provide a spec sheet on this mod, Larry? Thanks, marco From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Larry Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2014 7:39 AM To: RE-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Panels with 20.1% efficiency rating? Right August, it was the Panasonic HIT 240 that is 21.1% . The newer ones are less. On 12/20/14 9:53 AM, August Goers wrote: Hi Lou, The LG Mono X NeON 305 W 60 cell is 18.6% according to their website. I think that is about the best non-SunPower option you can readily get these days. http://www.lg.com/us/commercial/solar-panels/lg-LG305N1C-B3 Even Panasonic modules are only 19.4%: http://eu-solar.panasonic.net/en/products/n-240-n-245/ Best, August From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Lou Russo Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2014 8:16 AM To: RE-wrenches Subject: [RE-wrenches] Panels with 20.1% efficiency rating? Wrenches, I am looking for panels with a 20.1% efficiency rating or better, that are NOT Sun Power. My distributors can not acquire anything even near that. Any leads or resources to check would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! Aloha, Lou Russo (440) 345 6762 ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html List rules & etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html List rules & etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] Panels with 20.1% efficiency rating?
Right August, it was the Panasonic HIT 240 that is 21.1% . The newer ones are less. On 12/20/14 9:53 AM, August Goers wrote: Hi Lou, The LG Mono X NeON 305 W 60 cell is 18.6% according to their website. I think that is about the best non-SunPower option you can readily get these days. http://www.lg.com/us/commercial/solar-panels/lg-LG305N1C-B3 Even Panasonic modules are only 19.4%: http://eu-solar.panasonic.net/en/products/n-240-n-245/ Best, August *From:*RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org <mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org>] *On Behalf Of *Lou Russo *Sent:* Saturday, December 20, 2014 8:16 AM *To:* RE-wrenches *Subject:* [RE-wrenches] Panels with 20.1% efficiency rating? Wrenches, I am looking for panels with a 20.1% efficiency rating or better, that are NOT Sun Power. My distributors can not acquire anything even near that. Any leads or resources to check would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! Aloha, Lou Russo (440) 345 6762 ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html List rules & etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html List rules & etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] Panels with 20.1% efficiency rating?
Hi Lou, The LG Mono X NeON 305 W 60 cell is 18.6% according to their website. I think that is about the best non-SunPower option you can readily get these days. http://www.lg.com/us/commercial/solar-panels/lg-LG305N1C-B3 Even Panasonic modules are only 19.4%: http://eu-solar.panasonic.net/en/products/n-240-n-245/ Best, August *From:* RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] *On Behalf Of *Lou Russo *Sent:* Saturday, December 20, 2014 8:16 AM *To:* RE-wrenches *Subject:* [RE-wrenches] Panels with 20.1% efficiency rating? Wrenches, I am looking for panels with a 20.1% efficiency rating or better, that are NOT Sun Power. My distributors can not acquire anything even near that. Any leads or resources to check would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! Aloha, Lou Russo (440) 345 6762 ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html List rules & etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] Panels with 20.1% efficiency rating?
Lou, Panasonic has 21.1% module efficiency. Too bad the US distribution is gone as they are not only efficient but the best performance available as well since the demise of Uni-Solar. Larry On 12/20/14 9:16 AM, Lou Russo wrote: Wrenches, I am looking for panels with a 20.1% efficiency rating or better, that are NOT Sun Power. My distributors can not acquire anything even near that. Any leads or resources to check would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! Aloha, Lou Russo (440) 345 6762 ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html List rules & etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
[RE-wrenches] Panels with 20.1% efficiency rating?
Wrenches, I am looking for panels with a 20.1% efficiency rating or better, that are NOT Sun Power. My distributors can not acquire anything even near that. Any leads or resources to check would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! Aloha, Lou Russo (440) 345 6762 ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html List rules & etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
