Re: [RE-wrenches] Programs for one line DWGs.

2020-06-21 Thread Ray 
2nd the Visio.  Very easy to use, compared to the learning curves on 
some of the other CAD systems.


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On 6/21/20 4:00 PM, Gary Willett wrote:
I've used Visio (MicroSoft) for years and it works well for 1-line and 
2-line drawings. Can also export to and import from AutoCad. Has great 
internal symbol libraries, or you can create your own.


On 6/18/20 7:56 PM, Eric Smiley wrote:
Draftsight is pretty good if you're familiar with AutoCad. The basic 
version is an autocad Lt clone.


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On Thu., Jun. 18, 2020, 4:14 p.m. Jamie Rennie, 
mailto:jamie.greenwi...@gmail.com>> wrote:


LibreCAD is free open source software. Downside is you cannot
import dwg files.

On Mon, May 18, 2020, 3:29 PM Dana Orzel mailto:d...@solarwork.com>> wrote:

Hey all you wise guys!

I looked back in the archives & found a few recommendations
on drawing programs. I had Design CAD-3D for 15 years and it
was simple [2D & 3D] & worked fine. I had to upgrade recently
as this program is now out of date and am currently
overwhelmed with too many overly complex drawing programs.

I need to draw boxes, lines, text, arrows, a few curves you
know the tasks. I don’t need to do 3D rendering of parts etc.
I also need a program that has decent tutorials.

What are you all using that is pretty basic for 2D drawings
on a very up-to-date PC?

Suffering with too many options… Thanks in advance.

Dana Orzel  Great Solar Works, Inc.

*C - 208.721.7003 d...@solarwork.com *

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Re: [RE-wrenches] Programs for one line DWGs.

2020-06-21 Thread Gary Willett 

  
  
I've used Visio (MicroSoft) for years and it works well for 1-line
and 2-line drawings. Can also export to and import from AutoCad. Has
great internal symbol libraries, or you can create your own.

On 6/18/20 7:56 PM, Eric Smiley wrote:


  
  Draftsight is pretty good if you're familiar with
AutoCad. The basic version is an autocad Lt clone.

Eric Smiley, P.Eng.
  Project Manager, North Island
  
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On Thu., Jun. 18, 2020, 4:14
  p.m. Jamie Rennie, 
  wrote:


  LibreCAD is free open source software.
Downside is you cannot import dwg files.
  
  
On Mon, May 18, 2020, 3:29
  PM Dana Orzel 
  wrote:


  

  Hey all you wise guys!
   
  I looked back in the
  archives & found a few recommendations on
  drawing programs. I had Design CAD-3D for 15 years
  and it was simple [2D & 3D] & worked fine.
  I had to upgrade recently as this program is now
  out of date and am currently overwhelmed with too
  many overly complex drawing programs.
   
  I need to draw boxes,
  lines, text, arrows, a few curves you know the
  tasks. I don’t need to do 3D rendering of parts
  etc. I also need a program that has decent
  tutorials.
   
  What are you all using
  that is pretty basic for 2D drawings on a very
  up-to-date PC?
   
  Suffering with too many
  options… Thanks in advance.
  
 
  
   
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  Works, Inc. 
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Programs for one line DWGs.

2020-06-18 Thread Eric Smiley 
Draftsight is pretty good if you're familiar with AutoCad. The basic
version is an autocad Lt clone.

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On Thu., Jun. 18, 2020, 4:14 p.m. Jamie Rennie, 
wrote:

> LibreCAD is free open source software. Downside is you cannot import dwg
> files.
>
> On Mon, May 18, 2020, 3:29 PM Dana Orzel  wrote:
>
>> Hey all you wise guys!
>>
>>
>>
>> I looked back in the archives & found a few recommendations on drawing
>> programs. I had Design CAD-3D for 15 years and it was simple [2D & 3D] &
>> worked fine. I had to upgrade recently as this program is now out of date
>> and am currently overwhelmed with too many overly complex drawing programs.
>>
>>
>>
>> I need to draw boxes, lines, text, arrows, a few curves you know the
>> tasks. I don’t need to do 3D rendering of parts etc. I also need a program
>> that has decent tutorials.
>>
>>
>>
>> What are you all using that is pretty basic for 2D drawings on a very
>> up-to-date PC?
>>
>>
>>
>> Suffering with too many options… Thanks in advance.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Dana Orzel  Great Solar Works, Inc.
>>
>> *C - 208.721.7003   d...@solarwork.com
>> *
>>
>> Idaho Contractor - # 028765 Idaho PV # 028374
>>
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Programs for one line DWGs.

2020-06-18 Thread Jamie Rennie 
LibreCAD is free open source software. Downside is you cannot import dwg
files.

On Mon, May 18, 2020, 3:29 PM Dana Orzel  wrote:

> Hey all you wise guys!
>
>
>
> I looked back in the archives & found a few recommendations on drawing
> programs. I had Design CAD-3D for 15 years and it was simple [2D & 3D] &
> worked fine. I had to upgrade recently as this program is now out of date
> and am currently overwhelmed with too many overly complex drawing programs.
>
>
>
> I need to draw boxes, lines, text, arrows, a few curves you know the
> tasks. I don’t need to do 3D rendering of parts etc. I also need a program
> that has decent tutorials.
>
>
>
> What are you all using that is pretty basic for 2D drawings on a very
> up-to-date PC?
>
>
>
> Suffering with too many options… Thanks in advance.
>
>
>
>
>
> Dana Orzel  Great Solar Works, Inc.
>
> *C - 208.721.7003   d...@solarwork.com
> *
>
> Idaho Contractor - # 028765 Idaho PV # 028374
>
> NABCEP # 051112-136   www.solarwork.com
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Programs for one line DWGs.

2020-05-19 Thread Kirk Herander 
Been using Autocad lite (1999 version) for twenty years. 
On 5/18/2020 6:30:00 PM, Dana Orzel  wrote:
Hey all you wise guys!
 
I looked back in the archives & found a few recommendations on drawing 
programs. I had Design CAD-3D for 15 years and it was simple [2D & 3D] & worked 
fine. I had to upgrade recently as this program is now out of date and am 
currently overwhelmed with too many overly complex drawing programs.
 
I need to draw boxes, lines, text, arrows, a few curves you know the tasks. I 
don’t need to do 3D rendering of parts etc. I also need a program that has 
decent tutorials.
 
What are you all using that is pretty basic for 2D drawings on a very 
up-to-date PC?
 
Suffering with too many options… Thanks in advance.
 
 
Dana Orzel  Great Solar Works, Inc.
C - 208.721.7003   d...@solarwork.com
Idaho Contractor - # 028765 Idaho PV # 028374
NABCEP # 051112-136   www.solarwork.com 
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Programs for one line DWGs.

2020-05-19 Thread Eric Smiley 
I have been using DraftSight. It's an AutoCAD LT clone. Handy for when
clients that send me AutoCAD (dwg) files.

However, they have brought out a 3D version.

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On Tue, 19 May 2020 at 09:42, Jason Szumlanski <
ja...@floridasolardesigngroup.com> wrote:

> It's not cheap, but Trimble Layout (which comes with Sketchup Pro) is
> fantastic. Easy to use, templates, scrapbooks for common elements, and an
> inferencing engine that makes lining things up a breeze. You can import
> pictures, CAD drawings, PDFs and other formats to annotate. I know you
> don't need the 3D capabilities of Sketchup, but I feel Layout alone is
> worth the money even if you never use Sketchup. Unfortunately, you can't
> buy Layout alone. On a good note, they now have both purchase and
> subscription options.
>
> They also recently added tables and linked data to Excel. It is becoming a
> real challenger to full CAD packages and does a lot of things AutoCAD
> can't, especially when linked to Sketchup. They are unquestionably
> committed to continuing development (improvements and bug fixes) with
> annual major updates and maintenance updates as well.
>
> Jason Szumlanski
>
>
>
> On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 6:29 PM Dana Orzel  wrote:
>
>> Hey all you wise guys!
>>
>>
>>
>> I looked back in the archives & found a few recommendations on drawing
>> programs. I had Design CAD-3D for 15 years and it was simple [2D & 3D] &
>> worked fine. I had to upgrade recently as this program is now out of date
>> and am currently overwhelmed with too many overly complex drawing programs.
>>
>>
>>
>> I need to draw boxes, lines, text, arrows, a few curves you know the
>> tasks. I don’t need to do 3D rendering of parts etc. I also need a program
>> that has decent tutorials.
>>
>>
>>
>> What are you all using that is pretty basic for 2D drawings on a very
>> up-to-date PC?
>>
>>
>>
>> Suffering with too many options… Thanks in advance.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Dana Orzel  Great Solar Works, Inc.
>>
>> *C - 208.721.7003   d...@solarwork.com
>> *
>>
>> Idaho Contractor - # 028765 Idaho PV # 028374
>>
>> NABCEP # 051112-136   www.solarwork.com
>> 
>>
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Programs for one line DWGs.

2020-05-19 Thread Jason Szumlanski 
It's not cheap, but Trimble Layout (which comes with Sketchup Pro) is
fantastic. Easy to use, templates, scrapbooks for common elements, and an
inferencing engine that makes lining things up a breeze. You can import
pictures, CAD drawings, PDFs and other formats to annotate. I know you
don't need the 3D capabilities of Sketchup, but I feel Layout alone is
worth the money even if you never use Sketchup. Unfortunately, you can't
buy Layout alone. On a good note, they now have both purchase and
subscription options.

They also recently added tables and linked data to Excel. It is becoming a
real challenger to full CAD packages and does a lot of things AutoCAD
can't, especially when linked to Sketchup. They are unquestionably
committed to continuing development (improvements and bug fixes) with
annual major updates and maintenance updates as well.

Jason Szumlanski



On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 6:29 PM Dana Orzel  wrote:

> Hey all you wise guys!
>
>
>
> I looked back in the archives & found a few recommendations on drawing
> programs. I had Design CAD-3D for 15 years and it was simple [2D & 3D] &
> worked fine. I had to upgrade recently as this program is now out of date
> and am currently overwhelmed with too many overly complex drawing programs.
>
>
>
> I need to draw boxes, lines, text, arrows, a few curves you know the
> tasks. I don’t need to do 3D rendering of parts etc. I also need a program
> that has decent tutorials.
>
>
>
> What are you all using that is pretty basic for 2D drawings on a very
> up-to-date PC?
>
>
>
> Suffering with too many options… Thanks in advance.
>
>
>
>
>
> Dana Orzel  Great Solar Works, Inc.
>
> *C - 208.721.7003   d...@solarwork.com
> *
>
> Idaho Contractor - # 028765 Idaho PV # 028374
>
> NABCEP # 051112-136   www.solarwork.com
> 
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Programs for one line DWGs.

2020-05-19 Thread Ray 
I'll throw another vote for Visio.  It has a very comprehensive 
electrical symbols library, and is much easier to use than AutoCad LT.  
But that's just for doing 3 line diagrams, not complex parts.


Ray Walters
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On 5/18/20 9:03 PM, Mac Lewis wrote:
I like AutoCad Lt as well.  It does way more than I need but you can 
build a nice library


On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 6:39 PM Lorenzo Ortiz > wrote:


AutoCAD LT

On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 3:29 PM Dana Orzel mailto:d...@solarwork.com>> wrote:

Hey all you wise guys!

I looked back in the archives & found a few recommendations on
drawing programs. I had Design CAD-3D for 15 years and it was
simple [2D & 3D] & worked fine. I had to upgrade recently as
this program is now out of date and am currently overwhelmed
with too many overly complex drawing programs.

I need to draw boxes, lines, text, arrows, a few curves you
know the tasks. I don’t need to do 3D rendering of parts etc.
I also need a program that has decent tutorials.

What are you all using that is pretty basic for 2D drawings on
a very up-to-date PC?

Suffering with too many options… Thanks in advance.

Dana Orzel  Great Solar Works, Inc.

*C - 208.721.7003 d...@solarwork.com *

Idaho Contractor - # 028765 Idaho PV # 028374

NABCEP # 051112-136 www.solarwork.com 

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Re: [RE-wrenches] Programs for one line DWGs.

2020-05-18 Thread Mac Lewis 
I like AutoCad Lt as well.  It does way more than I need but you can build
a nice library

On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 6:39 PM Lorenzo Ortiz  wrote:

> AutoCAD LT
>
> On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 3:29 PM Dana Orzel  wrote:
>
>> Hey all you wise guys!
>>
>>
>>
>> I looked back in the archives & found a few recommendations on drawing
>> programs. I had Design CAD-3D for 15 years and it was simple [2D & 3D] &
>> worked fine. I had to upgrade recently as this program is now out of date
>> and am currently overwhelmed with too many overly complex drawing programs.
>>
>>
>>
>> I need to draw boxes, lines, text, arrows, a few curves you know the
>> tasks. I don’t need to do 3D rendering of parts etc. I also need a program
>> that has decent tutorials.
>>
>>
>>
>> What are you all using that is pretty basic for 2D drawings on a very
>> up-to-date PC?
>>
>>
>>
>> Suffering with too many options… Thanks in advance.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Dana Orzel  Great Solar Works, Inc.
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Programs for one line DWGs.

2020-05-18 Thread Lorenzo Ortiz 
AutoCAD LT

On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 3:29 PM Dana Orzel  wrote:

> Hey all you wise guys!
>
>
>
> I looked back in the archives & found a few recommendations on drawing
> programs. I had Design CAD-3D for 15 years and it was simple [2D & 3D] &
> worked fine. I had to upgrade recently as this program is now out of date
> and am currently overwhelmed with too many overly complex drawing programs.
>
>
>
> I need to draw boxes, lines, text, arrows, a few curves you know the
> tasks. I don’t need to do 3D rendering of parts etc. I also need a program
> that has decent tutorials.
>
>
>
> What are you all using that is pretty basic for 2D drawings on a very
> up-to-date PC?
>
>
>
> Suffering with too many options… Thanks in advance.
>
>
>
>
>
> Dana Orzel  Great Solar Works, Inc.
>
> *C - 208.721.7003   d...@solarwork.com
> *
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>
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Programs for one line DWGs.

2020-05-18 Thread Andrew 
Hey Dana,

I have been using AutoCAD Lite and it seems to do a very
good job and I have been using it for single lines and permit packages for a
couple years now. I have a college who uses LibreOffice Draw cause its free
but he was doing a pretty big commercial project and it kept crashing.

 

 

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From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On
Behalf Of Dana Orzel
Sent: Monday, May 18, 2020 3:30 PM
To: 'RE-wrenches'
Subject: [RE-wrenches] Programs for one line DWGs.

 

Hey all you wise guys!

 

I looked back in the archives & found a few recommendations on drawing
programs. I had Design CAD-3D for 15 years and it was simple [2D & 3D] &
worked fine. I had to upgrade recently as this program is now out of date
and am currently overwhelmed with too many overly complex drawing programs.

 

I need to draw boxes, lines, text, arrows, a few curves you know the tasks.
I don't need to do 3D rendering of parts etc. I also need a program that has
decent tutorials.

 

What are you all using that is pretty basic for 2D drawings on a very
up-to-date PC?

 

Suffering with too many options. Thanks in advance.

 

 

Dana Orzel  Great Solar Works, Inc. 

C - 208.721.7003   d...@solarwork.com

Idaho Contractor - # 028765 Idaho PV # 028374

NABCEP # 051112-136   www.solarwork.com
<http://www.solarwork.com/> 

"Responsible Technologies for Responsible People since 1988"  

P Please consider the environment before printing this email.

 

 

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Re: [RE-wrenches] Programs for one line DWGs.

2020-05-18 Thread William Miller 
Dana:



For block diagrams:  Visio

For physical parts and assemblies:  Autocad

For CAM: Fusion 360.



William





*From:* RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] *On
Behalf Of *Dana Orzel
*Sent:* Monday, May 18, 2020 3:30 PM
*To:* 'RE-wrenches'
*Subject:* [RE-wrenches] Programs for one line DWGs.



Hey all you wise guys!



I looked back in the archives & found a few recommendations on drawing
programs. I had Design CAD-3D for 15 years and it was simple [2D & 3D] &
worked fine. I had to upgrade recently as this program is now out of date
and am currently overwhelmed with too many overly complex drawing programs.



I need to draw boxes, lines, text, arrows, a few curves you know the tasks.
I don’t need to do 3D rendering of parts etc. I also need a program that
has decent tutorials.



What are you all using that is pretty basic for 2D drawings on a very
up-to-date PC?



Suffering with too many options… Thanks in advance.





Dana Orzel  Great Solar Works, Inc.

*C - 208.721.7003   d...@solarwork.com
*

Idaho Contractor - # 028765 Idaho PV # 028374

NABCEP # 051112-136   www.solarwork.com

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[RE-wrenches] Programs for one line DWGs.

2020-05-18 Thread Dana Orzel 
Hey all you wise guys!

 

I looked back in the archives & found a few recommendations on drawing
programs. I had Design CAD-3D for 15 years and it was simple [2D & 3D] &
worked fine. I had to upgrade recently as this program is now out of date
and am currently overwhelmed with too many overly complex drawing programs.

 

I need to draw boxes, lines, text, arrows, a few curves you know the tasks.
I don't need to do 3D rendering of parts etc. I also need a program that has
decent tutorials.

 

What are you all using that is pretty basic for 2D drawings on a very
up-to-date PC?

 

Suffering with too many options. Thanks in advance.

 

 

Dana Orzel  Great Solar Works, Inc. 

C - 208.721.7003   d...@solarwork.com

Idaho Contractor - # 028765 Idaho PV # 028374

NABCEP # 051112-136   www.solarwork.com
 

"Responsible Technologies for Responsible People since 1988"  

P Please consider the environment before printing this email.

 

 

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