Re: [RE-wrenches] Radian throughput power

2018-02-24 Thread Lones Tuss
Hello Lones here.
 When an ac source is accepted by the inverter. The rely connects the ac input 
directly to the ac output. The relay is (should be) protected by a 50 amp 
breaker
If there is an ac load of 8KW or 33 ac amps the remaining current is available 
to be used by the inverter for battery charging. If the load increases above 8k 
charging is reduced to honor the loads first. If the loads chew up all 50 amps 
charging will be reduced to zero. Above 50 and the breaker should trip or 
damage to the relay may result.
 It is possible to use Support Mode. This sets a limit on the amount of current 
passing through from the source to the loads. Any amount above the set point 
will be supplied from the batteries. If the ac input current is set to 25 ac 
amps. Any load above the 25 amps will come from the batteries. Sustained loads 
above this adjustable set point could possibly deplete the batteries. If the 
load drops below the 25amp charging will resume.
It is possible have an ac source and deplete the batteries.
Loads first Charging 2nd.
I hope this helps.
Take Care All

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You are missing the charging of the battery! That is where (your numbers) the 
12KW - 8KW can go!


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> Wrenches,
>
>              I spoke with tech support at Outback recently 
> and was told the max output of the Radian at the output terminals is 
> 8KW, even if there is an external AC source connected to one of the AC 
> IN terminals of the Radian.
>
>              However, on page 18 of the GS8048 manual:  
> "When it (transfer relay) closes the L1 input and output terminals 
> become electrically common."  ...same for L2 input and output. then, 
> "the relay contacts are limited to 55 amps per phase or leg".  Since 
> there is no 55 amp circuit breaker to protect that relay a 50 amp 2 
> pole breaker would be used.  This means you would have 50A X 240 Vac 
> (12KW) at the output terminals, correct?
>
>              Am I missing something?  Thanks,
>
> Bill
>
> Feather River Solar Electric
> Bill Battagin, Owner
> 4291 Nelson St.
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Radian throughput power

2018-02-24 Thread Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar
You are missing the charging of the battery! That is where (your numbers)
the 12KW - 8KW can go!


Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar
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> Wrenches,
>
>              I spoke with tech support at Outback recently and
> was told
> the max output of the Radian at the output terminals is 8KW, even if
> there is an external AC source connected to one of the AC IN terminals
> of the Radian.
>
>              However, on page 18 of the GS8048 manual:  "When it
> (transfer relay) closes the L1 input and output terminals become
> electrically common."  ...same for L2 input and output. then, "the relay
> contacts are limited to 55 amps per phase or leg".  Since there is no 55
> amp circuit breaker to protect that relay a 50 amp 2 pole breaker would
> be used.  This means you would have 50A X 240 Vac (12KW) at the output
> terminals, correct?
>
>              Am I missing something?  Thanks,
>
> Bill
>
> Feather River Solar Electric
> Bill Battagin, Owner
> 4291 Nelson St.
> Taylorsville, CA 95983
> 530.284.7849
> CA Lic 874049
> www.frenergy.net
>
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[RE-wrenches] Radian throughput power

2018-02-24 Thread frenergy

Wrenches,

            I spoke with tech support at Outback recently and was told 
the max output of the Radian at the output terminals is 8KW, even if 
there is an external AC source connected to one of the AC IN terminals 
of the Radian.


            However, on page 18 of the GS8048 manual:  "When it 
(transfer relay) closes the L1 input and output terminals become 
electrically common."  ...same for L2 input and output. then, "the relay 
contacts are limited to 55 amps per phase or leg".  Since there is no 55 
amp circuit breaker to protect that relay a 50 amp 2 pole breaker would 
be used.  This means you would have 50A X 240 Vac (12KW) at the output 
terminals, correct?


            Am I missing something?  Thanks,

Bill

Feather River Solar Electric
Bill Battagin, Owner
4291 Nelson St.
Taylorsville, CA 95983
530.284.7849
CA Lic 874049
www.frenergy.net


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