Re: [RE-wrenches] Rennsteig Crimper Tool
I would think the UL listing would means it s a safe tool to use for the crimps. But with anything use common sense. Bob On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 3:15 PM, Doug Pratt dmpr...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Rennsteig shared many, many MBs of independent 3rd party test results using various brands of crimpers with various brands of connectors, on various types of wire that were then subjected to incredibly precise resistance and pull tests. I came away thoroughly convinced that the Rennsteig is more than equal to (actually a bit better) than the Multi-Contact tool. And, if you recall, there were a few months toward the end of ’09 when it seemed everyone was tooling up for MC4 connectors. Multi-Contact couldn’t come close to keeping up with demand. During the worst of it they couldn’t even predict when we’d get our next shipment, or how many crimpers would be in that shipment. Pretty lame for a company that’s making $200 profit per crimper. We had desperate dealers with contracts that HAD to finish installation by year end even offering bribes. (My favorite was the home-smoked wild pig ham, which I will admit did have some effect on my actions. He’s also one of my best dealers.) Coming down the pike very soon we’ll be seeing other brands of connectors that are fully-compatible with the Multi-Contact MC4 connector. Apparently MC doesn’t have a patent lock on this connector. There’s at least a couple European brands and probably some Asian ones too, currently beating their way thru UL listing. I know at least one of them specifies the Rennsteig as the preferred crimping tool. So, is it cheaper hardware that could potentially bring on performance and liability problems? Ha! Not at all. It’s just better hardware at a non-gouging price. The MC branded tool is, of course, still available also. Cheers, Doug Pratt DC Power Systems *From:* re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] *On Behalf Of *Warren Lauzon *Sent:* Saturday, February 20, 2010 11:24 AM *To:* RE-wrenches *Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] Rennsteig Crimper Tool Uhm. not quite. The insistence of MC to use their tool has nothing to do with code, NEC, UL, or anything else. It has to do with (1) sales, (2) liability, and (3) quality control. For (2) it means that if a connector fails, burns down the house, and kills 93 chickens that they are not liable because you did not use their tool. For (3) There are or at least have been in the past attempts to use crimping tools that were totally not meant for MC connectors, and there was also at least one junky Chinese(?) knockoff that was way out of spec. .. Northern Arizona Wind Sun - Electricity From The Sun Since 1979 Solar Discussion Forum: http://www.wind-sun.com/ForumVB/ .. - Original Message - *From:* Mark Frye ma...@berkeleysolar.com *To:* 'RE-wrenches' re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org *Sent:* Saturday, February 20, 2010 9:41 AM *Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] Rennsteig Crimper Tool Humm, I know I am only supposted to use Listed parts in my electrical assemblies, but hey, I know galvanized water pipe is the same as electrical conduit I find this thread somewhat disturbing in that it supports the idea of undermining manufactures requirements at the whim of the installer [just as long as you don't get caught by the inspector ;-)]. Scroll up a few post and find folks singing the praise of inverter manufacturers, confirming the need to strictly abide by their requirements as documented ...this willingness to subvert clearly stated manufacturer requirements for the sack of a few hundred bucks peals off the vanier of emerging maturity and reveals the underlying backwards-ness inherent in the PV industry... Mark Frye Berkeley Solar Electric Systems 303 Redbud Way Nevada City, CA 95959 (530) 401-8024 www.berkeleysolar.com ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios
Re: [RE-wrenches] Rennsteig Crimper Tool
I've waged a 3-month battle with our purchasing department to get the Rennsteig crimpers into our stock. It's much less expensive, better quality, and does a tighter crimp than the MC tool. But.if you actually read the 4-page crimping instructions for MC4 connectors, Multi-Contact is highly specific that only their expensive tool is to be used. (On which they're making about a $200 profit per crimper.) Therefore, any cable ends assembled with the Rennsteig tool could be deemed non-NEC compliant. But really, when was the last time an inspector demanded to see the tool you used to produce your interconnect cables? I eventually won this battle. We're happy to offer a wide range of Rennsteig crimping, stripping, and cutting tools for MC4, MC3, and Tyco connectors, plus a selection of dies so one crimper can handle all the different connectors. Cheers, Doug Pratt DC Power Systems From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Marco Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 6:19 PM To: 'RE-wrenches' Subject: [RE-wrenches] Rennsteig Crimper Tool With all the changing connnectors, it's tough to keep up with having the right tools. To use the MC4 locking connector from Multi-Contact, you need to use the MC4 crimper pliers. Multi-Contact wants almost $400 for one while distributor is asking for something close $500. However I did find one from a company called Rennsteig Tools out of Ohio. They're selling them for $225/each. Question: does anyone have experience with this particular tool and the MC4 connector? thanks, marco ProVision Solar, Inc. Marco Mangelsdorf, President 69 Railroad Avenue, A-7 Hilo, Hawai'i 96720 (808) 969-3281, (808) 934-7462 fax www.provision-solar.com http://www.provision-solar.com/ ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] Rennsteig Crimper Tool
Humm, I know I am only supposted to use Listed parts in my electrical assemblies, but hey, I know galvanized water pipe is the same as electrical conduit I find this thread somewhat disturbing in that it supports the idea of undermining manufactures requirements at the whim of the installer [just as long as you don't get caught by the inspector ;-)]. Scroll up a few post and find folks singing the praise of inverter manufacturers, confirming the need to strictly abide by their requirements as documented ...this willingness to subvert clearly stated manufacturer requirements for the sack of a few hundred bucks peals off the vanier of emerging maturity and reveals the underlying backwards-ness inherent in the PV industry... Mark Frye Berkeley Solar Electric Systems 303 Redbud Way Nevada City, CA 95959 (530) 401-8024 http://www.berkeleysolar.com/ www.berkeleysolar.com _ From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Doug Pratt Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2010 8:09 AM To: 'RE-wrenches' Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Rennsteig Crimper Tool I've waged a 3-month battle with our purchasing department to get the Rennsteig crimpers into our stock. It's much less expensive, better quality, and does a tighter crimp than the MC tool. But.if you actually read the 4-page crimping instructions for MC4 connectors, Multi-Contact is highly specific that only their expensive tool is to be used. (On which they're making about a $200 profit per crimper.) Therefore, any cable ends assembled with the Rennsteig tool could be deemed non-NEC compliant. But really, when was the last time an inspector demanded to see the tool you used to produce your interconnect cables? I eventually won this battle. We're happy to offer a wide range of Rennsteig crimping, stripping, and cutting tools for MC4, MC3, and Tyco connectors, plus a selection of dies so one crimper can handle all the different connectors. Cheers, Doug Pratt DC Power Systems From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Marco Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 6:19 PM To: 'RE-wrenches' Subject: [RE-wrenches] Rennsteig Crimper Tool With all the changing connnectors, it's tough to keep up with having the right tools. To use the MC4 locking connector from Multi-Contact, you need to use the MC4 crimper pliers. Multi-Contact wants almost $400 for one while distributor is asking for something close $500. However I did find one from a company called Rennsteig Tools out of Ohio. They're selling them for $225/each. Question: does anyone have experience with this particular tool and the MC4 connector? thanks, marco ProVision Solar, Inc. Marco Mangelsdorf, President 69 Railroad Avenue, A-7 Hilo, Hawai'i 96720 (808) 969-3281, (808) 934-7462 fax www.provision-solar.com http://www.provision-solar.com/ ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] Rennsteig Crimper Tool
Uhm. not quite. The insistence of MC to use their tool has nothing to do with code, NEC, UL, or anything else. It has to do with (1) sales, (2) liability, and (3) quality control. For (2) it means that if a connector fails, burns down the house, and kills 93 chickens that they are not liable because you did not use their tool. For (3) There are or at least have been in the past attempts to use crimping tools that were totally not meant for MC connectors, and there was also at least one junky Chinese(?) knockoff that was way out of spec. .. Northern Arizona Wind Sun - Electricity From The Sun Since 1979 Solar Discussion Forum: http://www.wind-sun.com/ForumVB/ .. - Original Message - From: Mark Frye To: 'RE-wrenches' Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2010 9:41 AM Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Rennsteig Crimper Tool Humm, I know I am only supposted to use Listed parts in my electrical assemblies, but hey, I know galvanized water pipe is the same as electrical conduit I find this thread somewhat disturbing in that it supports the idea of undermining manufactures requirements at the whim of the installer [just as long as you don't get caught by the inspector ;-)]. Scroll up a few post and find folks singing the praise of inverter manufacturers, confirming the need to strictly abide by their requirements as documented ...this willingness to subvert clearly stated manufacturer requirements for the sack of a few hundred bucks peals off the vanier of emerging maturity and reveals the underlying backwards-ness inherent in the PV industry... Mark Frye Berkeley Solar Electric Systems 303 Redbud Way Nevada City, CA 95959 (530) 401-8024 www.berkeleysolar.com ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
[RE-wrenches] Rennsteig Crimper
Well, after reading all of those helpful posts, I decided to order two of the Rennsteig crimper pliers for the MC4 connectors. I purchased them directly from Rennsteig in Ohio for $225/each. MC wanted close to $400 for their tool. I'll let you all know what my guys think about using them. On another subject, have any of you used the Schletter-brand mounting hardware? Any comments? Thanks, marco provision_highres_solar_logo2 with C-26351 Marco Mangelsdorf, President 69 Railroad Avenue, A-7 Hilo, Hawai'i 96720 (808) 969-3281, 934-7462 facsimile http://www.provisiontechnologies.com www.provision-solar.com image001.jpg___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] Rennsteig Crimper Tool
Rennsteig shared many, many MBs of independent 3rd party test results using various brands of crimpers with various brands of connectors, on various types of wire that were then subjected to incredibly precise resistance and pull tests. I came away thoroughly convinced that the Rennsteig is more than equal to (actually a bit better) than the Multi-Contact tool. And, if you recall, there were a few months toward the end of '09 when it seemed everyone was tooling up for MC4 connectors. Multi-Contact couldn't come close to keeping up with demand. During the worst of it they couldn't even predict when we'd get our next shipment, or how many crimpers would be in that shipment. Pretty lame for a company that's making $200 profit per crimper. We had desperate dealers with contracts that HAD to finish installation by year end even offering bribes. (My favorite was the home-smoked wild pig ham, which I will admit did have some effect on my actions. He's also one of my best dealers.) Coming down the pike very soon we'll be seeing other brands of connectors that are fully-compatible with the Multi-Contact MC4 connector. Apparently MC doesn't have a patent lock on this connector. There's at least a couple European brands and probably some Asian ones too, currently beating their way thru UL listing. I know at least one of them specifies the Rennsteig as the preferred crimping tool. So, is it cheaper hardware that could potentially bring on performance and liability problems? Ha! Not at all. It's just better hardware at a non-gouging price. The MC branded tool is, of course, still available also. Cheers, Doug Pratt DC Power Systems From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Warren Lauzon Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2010 11:24 AM To: RE-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Rennsteig Crimper Tool Uhm. not quite. The insistence of MC to use their tool has nothing to do with code, NEC, UL, or anything else. It has to do with (1) sales, (2) liability, and (3) quality control. For (2) it means that if a connector fails, burns down the house, and kills 93 chickens that they are not liable because you did not use their tool. For (3) There are or at least have been in the past attempts to use crimping tools that were totally not meant for MC connectors, and there was also at least one junky Chinese(?) knockoff that was way out of spec. .. Northern Arizona Wind Sun - Electricity From The Sun Since 1979 Solar Discussion Forum: http://www.wind-sun.com/ForumVB/ .. - Original Message - From: Mark Frye mailto:ma...@berkeleysolar.com To: 'RE-wrenches' mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2010 9:41 AM Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Rennsteig Crimper Tool Humm, I know I am only supposted to use Listed parts in my electrical assemblies, but hey, I know galvanized water pipe is the same as electrical conduit I find this thread somewhat disturbing in that it supports the idea of undermining manufactures requirements at the whim of the installer [just as long as you don't get caught by the inspector ;-)]. Scroll up a few post and find folks singing the praise of inverter manufacturers, confirming the need to strictly abide by their requirements as documented ...this willingness to subvert clearly stated manufacturer requirements for the sack of a few hundred bucks peals off the vanier of emerging maturity and reveals the underlying backwards-ness inherent in the PV industry... Mark Frye Berkeley Solar Electric Systems 303 Redbud Way Nevada City, CA 95959 (530) 401-8024 http://www.berkeleysolar.com/ www.berkeleysolar.com ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] Rennsteig Crimper Tool
Our experience in dealing direct with MC has been less than stellar. We ran into the problems you described, and more. We had ordered quite a bit of stuff (over $12,000), and yet the tools and several other items were backordered not weeks, but months. Just one example is that they sent one of the tools, but the dies were not expected to be available for 5+ months. We finally gave up on them. Yet they expected us to pay for it ALL when they sent the first dribblings. .. Northern Arizona Wind Sun - Electricity From The Sun Since 1979 Solar Discussion Forum: http://www.wind-sun.com/ForumVB/ .. - Original Message - From: Doug Pratt To: 'RE-wrenches' Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2010 1:15 PM Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Rennsteig Crimper Tool Rennsteig shared many, many MBs of independent 3rd party test results using various brands of crimpers with various brands of connectors, on various types of wire that were then subjected to incredibly precise resistance and pull tests. I came away thoroughly convinced that the Rennsteig is more than equal to (actually a bit better) than the Multi-Contact tool. And, if you recall, there were a few months toward the end of '09 when it seemed everyone was tooling up for MC4 connectors. Multi-Contact couldn't come close to keeping up with demand. During the worst of it they couldn't even predict when we'd get our next shipment, or how many crimpers would be in that shipment. Pretty lame for a company that's making $200 profit per crimper. We had desperate dealers with contracts that HAD to finish installation by year end even offering bribes. (My favorite was the home-smoked wild pig ham, which I will admit did have some effect on my actions. He's also one of my best dealers.) Coming down the pike very soon we'll be seeing other brands of connectors that are fully-compatible with the Multi-Contact MC4 connector. Apparently MC doesn't have a patent lock on this connector. There's at least a couple European brands and probably some Asian ones too, currently beating their way thru UL listing. I know at least one of them specifies the Rennsteig as the preferred crimping tool. So, is it cheaper hardware that could potentially bring on performance and liability problems? Ha! Not at all. It's just better hardware at a non-gouging price. The MC branded tool is, of course, still available also. Cheers, Doug Pratt DC Power Systems From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Warren Lauzon Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2010 11:24 AM To: RE-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Rennsteig Crimper Tool Uhm. not quite. The insistence of MC to use their tool has nothing to do with code, NEC, UL, or anything else. It has to do with (1) sales, (2) liability, and (3) quality control. For (2) it means that if a connector fails, burns down the house, and kills 93 chickens that they are not liable because you did not use their tool. For (3) There are or at least have been in the past attempts to use crimping tools that were totally not meant for MC connectors, and there was also at least one junky Chinese(?) knockoff that was way out of spec. .. Northern Arizona Wind Sun - Electricity From The Sun Since 1979 Solar Discussion Forum: http://www.wind-sun.com/ForumVB/ .. - Original Message - From: Mark Frye To: 'RE-wrenches' Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2010 9:41 AM Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Rennsteig Crimper Tool Humm, I know I am only supposted to use Listed parts in my electrical assemblies, but hey, I know galvanized water pipe is the same as electrical conduit I find this thread somewhat disturbing in that it supports the idea of undermining manufactures requirements at the whim of the installer [just as long as you don't get caught by the inspector ;-)]. Scroll up a few post and find folks singing the praise of inverter manufacturers, confirming the need to strictly abide by their requirements as documented ...this willingness to subvert clearly stated manufacturer requirements for the sack of a few hundred bucks peals off the vanier of emerging maturity and reveals the underlying backwards-ness inherent in the PV industry... Mark Frye Berkeley Solar Electric Systems 303 Redbud Way Nevada City, CA 95959 (530) 401-8024 www.berkeleysolar.com
Re: [RE-wrenches] Rennsteig Crimper Tool
The $225 price tag sounds great! I just bought the Rennsteig crimping tool (included correct locator and die for the MC4) for more than that. I chose this tool based on price and the ability to change dies (in hopes to evolve with the connectors). So far I am happy with it. I works smoothly, appears to be fairly user serviceable, German made a plus, and it should pay itself back in no time compared to buying pre-made cables (not to mention wasting short pieces of leftover wire). My 2 cents. Andy Karnitz NABCEP Certified PV Installer Blue Skies Solar Renewable Energy Solutions CA lic. 916318 C46 Eureka, CA 95503 707-834-9434 --- On Wed, 2/17/10, Marco ma...@pvthawaii.com wrote: From: Marco ma...@pvthawaii.com Subject: [RE-wrenches] Rennsteig Crimper Tool To: 'RE-wrenches' re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Date: Wednesday, February 17, 2010, 6:19 PM With all the changing connnectors, it's tough to keep up with having the right tools. To use the MC4 locking connector from Multi-Contact, you need to use the MC4 crimper pliers. Multi-Contact wants almost $400 for one while distributor is asking for something close $500. However I did find one from a company called Rennsteig Tools out of Ohio. They're selling them for $225/each. Question: does anyone have experience with this particular tool and the MC4 connector? thanks, marco ProVision Solar, Inc. Marco Mangelsdorf, President 69 Railroad Avenue, A-7 Hilo, Hawai'i 96720 (808) 969-3281, (808) 934-7462 fax www.provision-solar.com -Inline Attachment Follows- ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] Rennsteig Crimper Tool
Aloha Marco We are also happy with the Rennsteig tool.well made...need to keep it oiled to prevent rust, works well, like the interchangeable dies, it has already paid for itself.we also got the wire stripper and are also happy with thatthe cutters are high quality but regular angle cutters work fine as well...we love the flexibility to make our custom length homeruns on site with minimal waste.. -- Sunny Regards, Kirpal Khalsa NABCEP Certified Solar PV Installer Renewable Energy Systems www.oregonsolarworks.com 541-218-0201 m 541-592-3958 o On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 8:54 AM, a karnitz blueskiesso...@yahoo.com wrote: The $225 price tag sounds great! I just bought the Rennsteig crimping tool (included correct locator and die for the MC4) for more than that. I chose this tool based on price and the ability to change dies (in hopes to evolve with the connectors). So far I am happy with it. I works smoothly, appears to be fairly user serviceable, German made a plus, and it should pay itself back in no time compared to buying pre-made cables (not to mention wasting short pieces of leftover wire). My 2 cents. Andy Karnitz NABCEP Certified PV Installer Blue Skies Solar Renewable Energy Solutions CA lic. 916318 C46 Eureka, CA 95503 707-834-9434 ** --- On *Wed, 2/17/10, Marco ma...@pvthawaii.com* wrote: From: Marco ma...@pvthawaii.com Subject: [RE-wrenches] Rennsteig Crimper Tool To: 'RE-wrenches' re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Date: Wednesday, February 17, 2010, 6:19 PM With all the changing connnectors, it's tough to keep up with having the right tools. To use the MC4 locking connector from Multi-Contact, you need to use the MC4 crimper pliers. Multi-Contact wants almost $400 for one while distributor is asking for something close $500. However I did find one from a company called Rennsteig Tools out of Ohio. They're selling them for $225/each. Question: does anyone have experience with this particular tool and the MC4 connector? thanks, marco ProVision Solar, Inc. Marco Mangelsdorf, President 69 Railroad Avenue, A-7 Hilo, Hawai'i 96720 (808) 969-3281, (808) 934-7462 fax www.provision-solar.com -Inline Attachment Follows- ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.orghttp://mc/compose?to=re-wrenc...@lists.re-wrenches.org Options settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] Rennsteig Crimper Tool
I had to swallow it and get the set, at least if you he none you can do all 3 of the ends with 1 tool and interchangeable dies. Figured it was better than getting them all separately. The tool had to come from AEE, this company was not on the web at that point, but i think they are the manufacturer. I now have fewer little pieces of wire around... Bob On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 9:19 PM, Marco ma...@pvthawaii.com wrote: With all the changing connnectors, it's tough to keep up with having the right tools. To use the MC4 locking connector from Multi-Contact, you need to use the MC4 crimper pliers. Multi-Contact wants almost $400 for one while distributor is asking for something close $500. However I did find one from a company called Rennsteig Tools out of Ohio. They're selling them for $225/each. Question: does anyone have experience with this particular tool and the MC4 connector? thanks, marco ProVision Solar, Inc. Marco Mangelsdorf, President 69 Railroad Avenue, A-7 Hilo, Hawai'i 96720 (808) 969-3281, (808) 934-7462 fax www.provision-solar.com ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
[RE-wrenches] Rennsteig Crimper Tool
With all the changing connnectors, it's tough to keep up with having the right tools. To use the MC4 locking connector from Multi-Contact, you need to use the MC4 crimper pliers. Multi-Contact wants almost $400 for one while distributor is asking for something close $500. However I did find one from a company called Rennsteig Tools out of Ohio. They're selling them for $225/each. Question: does anyone have experience with this particular tool and the MC4 connector? thanks, marco ProVision Solar, Inc. Marco Mangelsdorf, President 69 Railroad Avenue, A-7 Hilo, Hawai'i 96720 (808) 969-3281, (808) 934-7462 fax www.provision-solar.com http://www.provision-solar.com/ ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
