Re: [RE-wrenches] Roof attachment

[Chris Worcester]

Check out the DPW Easy Power Post with 6 holes.

 

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Ecofasten ECO-65 or ECO-44 would be good options.

 

On Wed, Jul 27, 2016 at 10:49 AM, Jay <jay.pe...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi all

I'm looking for a roof attachment for the following

Large base with sealant for plywood roof
Many smaller screws vs single lag attachment
Will be for roof with torch down material.
And with center post attachment so I can mount unistrut to.

I've seen some examples but now of course I can't seem to locate them.

Thanks in advance

Jay


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Re: [RE-wrenches] Roof attachment

[Will White]

Ecofasten ECO-65 or ECO-44 would be good options.

On Wed, Jul 27, 2016 at 10:49 AM, Jay  wrote:

> Hi all
>
> I'm looking for a roof attachment for the following
>
> Large base with sealant for plywood roof
> Many smaller screws vs single lag attachment
> Will be for roof with torch down material.
> And with center post attachment so I can mount unistrut to.
>
> I've seen some examples but now of course I can't seem to locate them.
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Jay
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Roof attachment

[Jerry Shafer]

Lookat sunmodo, up to five screw holes
Jerry

On Jul 27, 2016 5:18 AM, "Jay"  wrote:

> Hi all
>
> I'm looking for a roof attachment for the following
>
> Large base with sealant for plywood roof
> Many smaller screws vs single lag attachment
> Will be for roof with torch down material.
> And with center post attachment so I can mount unistrut to.
>
> I've seen some examples but now of course I can't seem to locate them.
>
> Thanks in advance
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> Jay
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Roof attachment

[August Goers]

Here are a couple of products that come to mind:

http://www.ecofastensolar.com/store/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=4=
2#.V5jb0TsrJaQ

http://www.anchorp.com/ (I believe IronRidge resells these as well)

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Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2016 7:49 AM
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Subject: [RE-wrenches] Roof attachment

Hi all

I'm looking for a roof attachment for the following

Large base with sealant for plywood roof Many smaller screws vs single lag
attachment Will be for roof with torch down material.
And with center post attachment so I can mount unistrut to.

I've seen some examples but now of course I can't seem to locate them.

Thanks in advance

Jay


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[RE-wrenches] Roof attachment

[Jay]

Hi all

I'm looking for a roof attachment for the following

Large base with sealant for plywood roof
Many smaller screws vs single lag attachment 
Will be for roof with torch down material.
And with center post attachment so I can mount unistrut to. 

I've seen some examples but now of course I can't seem to locate them. 

Thanks in advance

Jay


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Re: [RE-wrenches] roof attachment in tile roof

[Dave Click]

As a note for tile roofs: the tile keeps most of the water on top of it 
but it's not the actual sealed layer. The underlayment is the true 
waterproofing layer, so be sure you seal the penetration through the 
underlayment as well as the hole you cut in the tile.



On 2012/7/18 23:42, Parrish, Peter wrote:

That's the link. Yes, that is the big advantage IMHO. If you use a 7/16
masonry drill (as I remember) there is scant clearance between the
resultant hole and the 3/8 SS all thread. I use a liberal amount of
Sika 1A caulk around the annular ring and regular SS 3/8 washer on top
of that. In southern California we have lots of flat concrete tiles
(even easier) as well as S-tiles. I think there still is an app note on
their website. Keep the bit cool by dunking it in a cup of water between
holes.

- Peter

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[re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] on behalf of benn kilburn
[b...@daystarsolar.ca]
*Sent:* Wednesday, July 18, 2012 4:48 PM
*To:* RE-wrenches
*Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] roof attachment in tile roof

Peter,
Do you have a link to the tile track you referred to.  Is it the one
spelled Tile Trac found at this link  TileTrac
http://www.prosolar.com/old_sitepages/tile_trac_index.htm
This is nice as it has the flexibility to locate the bolt at the top of
the tile when the rafter doesn't line up. But it relies on the bolt
going thru the tile at the high point (and some sealant) for keeping
water out?
Benn

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Certificate # 0007S
HAVE A SUNNY DAY

On 18/07/12 2:44 PM, Parrish, Peter peter.parr...@canyons.edu
mailto:peter.parr...@canyons.edu wrote:

All the hooks I have tried caused the tile to “pop up” and to avoid this
one has to notch the tile. More trouble than it is worth IMHO. Tile
track works well and doesn’t need flashing.

Peter Parrish

College of the Canyons

peter.parr...@canyons.edu mailto:peter.parr...@canyons.edu

O: (661) 362-3888 C: (323) 839-6108

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mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org
[mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] *On Behalf Of *Benn
At DayStarSolar
*Sent:* Wednesday, July 18, 2012 8:38 AM
*To:* RE-wrenches
*Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] roof attachment in tile roof

William, Jason;

I appreciate the suggestion, it sounds like an ideal solution.

  I do wonder why you prefer posts when you could use the tile hooks and
avoid the extra work and time of cutting and flashing? If it makes for a
better attachment structurally and weather-proof wise, then I'm all for it.

Could you make a few points for/against tile hooks vs flashed posts?


Thanks.

benn

Sent from a 'smart' phone, with tiny keys. Please excuse shortcuts and
typos.


On 2012-07-13, at 2:20 PM, Jason Szumlanski ja...@fafcosolar.com
mailto:ja...@fafcosolar.com wrote:

I should have mentioned that a few manufacturers make complete
standoff and flashing systems:

http://www.quickmountpv.com/products/universal-tile-mount.html#page=overview

http://www.verde-industries.com/solar-flashings/solar-flashings.html

There are others.


Jason Szumlanski

Fafco Solar

On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 4:12 PM, Jason Szumlanski
ja...@fafcosolar.com mailto:ja...@fafcosolar.com wrote:

Agreed. AKA Stand-offs. Unirac makes two-piece standoffs in 4-7.
Two lags per base make a highly secure connection to the truss.

NRCA Flashing detail

http://www.nrca.net/consumer/types/details/tile-7.pdf


Jason Szumlanski

Fafco Solar



On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 2:18 PM, William Miller
will...@millersolar.com mailto:will...@millersolar.com wrote:

Benn:

None of the below.  Use stanchions, also known as power posts.
  Flash them properly, just like a roof vent, only they will be
perpindicular to the roof surface, not vertical.

William Miller



At 06:40 AM 7/13/2012, benn kilburn wrote:

Hanger bolts or tile hooks….What does the collective wisdom of this
list have to suggest/recommend?

Cheers,
Benn

DayStar Renewable Energy Inc.

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Re: [RE-wrenches] roof attachment in tile roof

[Benn At DayStarSolar]

William, Jason;
I appreciate the suggestion, it sounds like an ideal solution. 
 I do wonder why you prefer posts when you could use the tile hooks and avoid 
the extra work and time of cutting and flashing? If it makes for a better 
attachment structurally and weather-proof wise, then I'm all for it. 
Could you make a few points for/against tile hooks vs flashed posts?

Thanks. 
benn
Sent from a 'smart' phone, with tiny keys. Please excuse shortcuts and typos. 

On 2012-07-13, at 2:20 PM, Jason Szumlanski ja...@fafcosolar.com wrote:

 I should have mentioned that a few manufacturers make complete standoff and 
 flashing systems:
 
 http://www.quickmountpv.com/products/universal-tile-mount.html#page=overview
 http://www.verde-industries.com/solar-flashings/solar-flashings.html
 
 There are others.
 
 Jason Szumlanski
 Fafco Solar
 
 
 
 On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 4:12 PM, Jason Szumlanski ja...@fafcosolar.com 
 wrote:
 Agreed. AKA Stand-offs. Unirac makes two-piece standoffs in 4-7. Two lags 
 per base make a highly secure connection to the truss.
 
 NRCA Flashing detail
 http://www.nrca.net/consumer/types/details/tile-7.pdf
 
 Jason Szumlanski
 Fafco Solar
 
 
 
 On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 2:18 PM, William Miller will...@millersolar.com 
 wrote:
 Benn:
 
 None of the below.  Use stanchions, also known as power posts.  Flash them 
 properly, just like a roof vent, only they will be perpindicular to the roof 
 surface, not vertical.
 
 William Miller
 
 
 At 06:40 AM 7/13/2012, benn kilburn wrote:
 
 
 Hanger bolts or tile hooks….What does the collective wisdom of this list have 
 to suggest/recommend?
 
 Cheers,
 Benn
 
 DayStar Renewable Energy Inc.
 
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Re: [RE-wrenches] roof attachment in tile roof

[Parrish, Peter]

All the hooks I have tried caused the tile to “pop up” and to avoid this one 
has to notch the tile. More trouble than it is worth IMHO. Tile track works 
well and doesn’t need flashing.

Peter Parrish
College of the Canyons
peter.parr...@canyons.edumailto:peter.parr...@canyons.edu
O: (661) 362-3888 C: (323) 839-6108


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From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org 
[mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Benn At 
DayStarSolar
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2012 8:38 AM
To: RE-wrenches
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] roof attachment in tile roof

William, Jason;
I appreciate the suggestion, it sounds like an ideal solution.
 I do wonder why you prefer posts when you could use the tile hooks and avoid 
the extra work and time of cutting and flashing? If it makes for a better 
attachment structurally and weather-proof wise, then I'm all for it.
Could you make a few points for/against tile hooks vs flashed posts?

Thanks.
benn
Sent from a 'smart' phone, with tiny keys. Please excuse shortcuts and typos.

On 2012-07-13, at 2:20 PM, Jason Szumlanski 
ja...@fafcosolar.commailto:ja...@fafcosolar.com wrote:
I should have mentioned that a few manufacturers make complete standoff and 
flashing systems:

http://www.quickmountpv.com/products/universal-tile-mount.html#page=overview
http://www.verde-industries.com/solar-flashings/solar-flashings.html

There are others.

Jason Szumlanski
Fafco Solar


On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 4:12 PM, Jason Szumlanski 
ja...@fafcosolar.commailto:ja...@fafcosolar.com wrote:
Agreed. AKA Stand-offs. Unirac makes two-piece standoffs in 4-7. Two lags per 
base make a highly secure connection to the truss.

NRCA Flashing detail
http://www.nrca.net/consumer/types/details/tile-7.pdf

Jason Szumlanski
Fafco Solar


On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 2:18 PM, William Miller 
will...@millersolar.commailto:will...@millersolar.com wrote:
Benn:

None of the below.  Use stanchions, also known as power posts.  Flash them 
properly, just like a roof vent, only they will be perpindicular to the roof 
surface, not vertical.

William Miller


At 06:40 AM 7/13/2012, benn kilburn wrote:

Hanger bolts or tile hooks….What does the collective wisdom of this list have 
to suggest/recommend?

Cheers,
Benn

DayStar Renewable Energy Inc.

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Re: [RE-wrenches] roof attachment in tile roof

[benn kilburn]

Peter, 
Do you have a link to the tile track you referred to.  Is it the one spelled
Tile Trac found at this link  TileTrac
http://www.prosolar.com/old_sitepages/tile_trac_index.htm
This is nice as it has the flexibility to locate the bolt at the top of the
tile when the rafter doesn't line up. But it relies on the bolt going thru
the tile at the high point (and some sealant) for keeping water out?
Benn

DayStar Renewable Energy Inc.
www.daystarsolar.ca  *  Ph: 780-906-7807
Construction Electrician Solar Photovoltaic Systems Certified
Certificate # 0007S
HAVE A SUNNY DAY

On 18/07/12 2:44 PM, Parrish, Peter peter.parr...@canyons.edu wrote:

All the hooks I have tried caused the tile to “pop up” and to avoid this one
has to notch the tile. More trouble than it is worth IMHO. Tile track works
well and doesn’t need flashing.
 
Peter Parrish
College of the Canyons
peter.parr...@canyons.edu mailto:peter.parr...@canyons.edu
O: (661) 362-3888 C: (323) 839-6108
 
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From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org
[mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Benn At
DayStarSolar
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2012 8:38 AM
To: RE-wrenches
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] roof attachment in tile roof
 

William, Jason;

I appreciate the suggestion, it sounds like an ideal solution.

 I do wonder why you prefer posts when you could use the tile hooks and
avoid the extra work and time of cutting and flashing? If it makes for a
better attachment structurally and weather-proof wise, then I'm all for it.

Could you make a few points for/against tile hooks vs flashed posts?


Thanks. 

benn

Sent from a 'smart' phone, with tiny keys. Please excuse shortcuts and
typos. 


On 2012-07-13, at 2:20 PM, Jason Szumlanski ja...@fafcosolar.com wrote:
 
 I should have mentioned that a few manufacturers make complete standoff and
 flashing systems:
 
  
 
 http://www.quickmountpv.com/products/universal-tile-mount.html#page=overview
 
 http://www.verde-industries.com/solar-flashings/solar-flashings.html
 
  
 
 There are others.
 
 Jason Szumlanski
 
 Fafco Solar
 
  
  
 
 On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 4:12 PM, Jason Szumlanski ja...@fafcosolar.com
 wrote:
 Agreed. AKA Stand-offs. Unirac makes two-piece standoffs in 4-7. Two lags per
 base make a highly secure connection to the truss.
 
  
 
 NRCA Flashing detail
 
 http://www.nrca.net/consumer/types/details/tile-7.pdf
 
 
 Jason Szumlanski
 
 Fafco Solar
 
 
 
 On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 2:18 PM, William Miller will...@millersolar.com
 wrote:
 Benn:
 
 None of the below.  Use stanchions, also known as power posts.  Flash them
 properly, just like a roof vent, only they will be perpindicular to the roof
 surface, not vertical.
 
 William Miller
 
 
 
 At 06:40 AM 7/13/2012, benn kilburn wrote:
 
 
 Hanger bolts or tile hooks….What does the collective wisdom of this list have
 to suggest/recommend?
 
 Cheers,
 Benn
 
 DayStar Renewable Energy Inc.
  
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Re: [RE-wrenches] roof attachment in tile roof

[William Miller]

Benn:

Stanchions are tried and true, solid, do not leak and do not allow 
uplift.  If we are going to do solar right, we need to be electricians and 
roofers.  This means we have to cut tile.  I'd get some scraps and 
practice.  The new 4 to 4-1/2 right angle  battery grinders with diamond 
wheels may be real practical.  It's been a few months so I forget what tool 
we used.


Wm



At 08:36 AM 7/18/2012, Benn At DayStarSolar wrote:

William, Jason;
I appreciate the suggestion, it sounds like an ideal solution.
 I do wonder why you prefer posts when you could use the tile hooks and 
avoid the extra work and time of cutting and flashing? If it makes for a 
better attachment structurally and weather-proof wise, then I'm all for it.

Could you make a few points for/against tile hooks vs flashed posts?

Thanks.
benn


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[RE-wrenches] roof attachment in tile roof

[benn kilburn]

Wrenches,
I don't see a lot of tile roof in this area but I'm working on a project
(new construction) and the roofing will be metal roof tile, see
here.Šmetrotile_roman.cfm http://metroroofproducts.com/metrotile_roman.cfm
.
Recommendations I've received for attaching the racking include a tile hook
or hanger bolts.

I have used them but always had a hesitation with hanger bolts since the
whole array is being supported by a few inches of free-standing bolts, and
with no 'cross-support' (triangle) I don't see what is stopping the array
from keeling over and bending/snapping the bolts, especially under a heavy
snow load!  I would love to hear some comments on this concern.

Hanger bolts or tile hooksŠ.What does the collective wisdom of this list
have to suggest/recommend?

Cheers,
Benn 

DayStar Renewable Energy Inc.
www.daystarsolar.ca  *  Ph: 780-906-7807
Construction Electrician Solar Photovoltaic Systems Certified
Certificate # 0007S
HAVE A SUNNY DAY


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Re: [RE-wrenches] roof attachment in tile roof

[William Miller]

Benn:

None of the below.  Use stanchions, also known as power posts.  Flash them 
properly, just like a roof vent, only they will be perpindicular to the 
roof surface, not vertical.


William Miller

At 06:40 AM 7/13/2012, benn kilburn wrote:


Hanger bolts or tile hooks….What does the collective wisdom of this list 
have to suggest/recommend?


Cheers,
Benn

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Re: [RE-wrenches] roof attachment in tile roof

[Jason Szumlanski]

Agreed. AKA Stand-offs. Unirac makes two-piece standoffs in 4-7. Two lags
per base make a highly secure connection to the truss.

NRCA Flashing detail
http://www.nrca.net/consumer/types/details/tile-7.pdf

Jason Szumlanski
Fafco Solar



On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 2:18 PM, William Miller will...@millersolar.comwrote:

 Benn:

 None of the below.  Use stanchions, also known as power posts.  Flash them
 properly, just like a roof vent, only they will be perpindicular to the
 roof surface, not vertical.

 William Miller


 At 06:40 AM 7/13/2012, benn kilburn wrote:


  Hanger bolts or tile hooks….What does the collective wisdom of this list
 have to suggest/recommend?

 Cheers,
 Benn

 DayStar Renewable Energy Inc.


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Re: [RE-wrenches] roof attachment in tile roof

[Jason Szumlanski]

I should have mentioned that a few manufacturers make complete standoff and
flashing systems:

http://www.quickmountpv.com/products/universal-tile-mount.html#page=overview
http://www.verde-industries.com/solar-flashings/solar-flashings.html

There are others.

Jason Szumlanski
Fafco Solar



On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 4:12 PM, Jason Szumlanski ja...@fafcosolar.comwrote:

 Agreed. AKA Stand-offs. Unirac makes two-piece standoffs in 4-7. Two lags
 per base make a highly secure connection to the truss.

 NRCA Flashing detail
 http://www.nrca.net/consumer/types/details/tile-7.pdf

 Jason Szumlanski
 Fafco Solar



 On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 2:18 PM, William Miller 
 will...@millersolar.comwrote:

 Benn:

 None of the below.  Use stanchions, also known as power posts.  Flash
 them properly, just like a roof vent, only they will be perpindicular to
 the roof surface, not vertical.

 William Miller


 At 06:40 AM 7/13/2012, benn kilburn wrote:


  Hanger bolts or tile hooks….What does the collective wisdom of this list
 have to suggest/recommend?

 Cheers,
 Benn

 DayStar Renewable Energy Inc.


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