Re: [RE-wrenches] Solar World 2.0 frames
The 2.0 frames are very sturdy, but they are a bit hard to hold/carry with the rounded edge. We put 164 of them on the Naples Botanical Garden and it worked out great. Jason Szumlanski Fafco Solar On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 9:01 PM, Dave Palumbo d...@independentpowerllc.comwrote: All, ** ** We are considering using Solar World 2.0 framed modules. Not having put hands on these yet, we are looking for testimonials and opinions on these “top mount only” modules. And while we’re at, it what about Solar World’s 2.5’s with the bottom mount flange? ** ** David Palumbo Independent Power LLC 462 Solar Way Drive Hyde Park, VT 05655** *www.independentpowerllc.com * NABCEP Certified PV Installer Vermont Solar Partner 24 Years Experience, (802) 888-7194 ** ** ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] Solar World 2.0 frames
What wire restraint methods are you using? We are looking at possibly using these modules with a Unirac ULA system. At 09:24 AM 5/7/2012, you wrote: The 2.0 frames are very sturdy, but they are a bit hard to hold/carry with the rounded edge. We put 164 of them on the Naples Botanical Garden and it worked out great. Jason Szumlanski Fafco Solar On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 9:01 PM, Dave Palumbo d...@independentpowerllc.com wrote: All, We are considering using Solar World 2.0 framed modules. Not having put hands on these yet, we are looking for testimonials and opinions on these top mount only modules. And while were at, it what about Solar Worlds 2.5s with the bottom mount flange? David Palumbo Independent Power LLC 462 Solar Way Drive Hyde Park, VT 05655 www.independentpowerllc.com NABCEP Certified PV Installer Vermont Solar Partner 24 Years Experience, (802) 888-7194 ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org Drake Chamberlin ATHENS ELECTRIC LLC OH License 44810 CO license 3773 NABCEP Certified PV ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] Solar World 2.0 frames
This was an Enphase M215 system on Unirac Solarmount rails and we used WireClips from PVRacking.us. These work great for the Enphase trunk cable and for DC conductors. I do agree that there are some wire management difficulties. http://www.pvracking.net/products/Accessories/WireClips-0-25-each-Sold-in-qty-of-300-WireClip-A300.html Jason Szumlanski Fafco Solar On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 9:30 AM, Drake drake.chamber...@redwoodalliance.orgwrote: What wire restraint methods are you using? We are looking at possibly using these modules with a Unirac ULA system. At 09:24 AM 5/7/2012, you wrote: The 2.0 frames are very sturdy, but they are a bit hard to hold/carry with the rounded edge. We put 164 of them on the Naples Botanical Garden and it worked out great. Jason Szumlanski Fafco Solar On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 9:01 PM, Dave Palumbo d...@independentpowerllc.com wrote: All, We are considering using Solar World 2.0 framed modules. Not having put hands on these yet, we are looking for testimonials and opinions on these “top mount only” modules. And while we’re at, it what about Solar World’s 2.5’s with the bottom mount flange? David Palumbo Independent Power LLC 462 Solar Way Drive Hyde Park, VT 05655 www.independentpowerllc.com NABCEP Certified PV Installer Vermont Solar Partner 24 Years Experience, (802) 888-7194 %28802%29%20888-7194 ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org ** ** Drake Chamberlin**** ATHENS ELECTRIC LLC OH License 44810**** CO license 3773 NABCEP Certified PV ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] Solar World 2.0 frames
Hello wrenches, The Heyco SunBundler stainless steel ties provide a long lasting solution for managing wiring under arrays. The Sunbundlers are particularly convenient for fastening Enphase Engage cabling underneath an array. I have included a link to the Heyco SunBundler webpage below. There are a number of other solution that work for specific racking systems, including the Enphase ET-Clip. Sunbundler-Cable-Tieshttp://www.heyco.com/Alternative_Energy_Products/product.cfm?product=Sunbundler-Cable-Tiessection=Alternative_Energy_Products On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 11:22 AM, Jason Szumlanski ja...@fafcosolar.comwrote: This was an Enphase M215 system on Unirac Solarmount rails and we used WireClips from PVRacking.us. These work great for the Enphase trunk cable and for DC conductors. I do agree that there are some wire management difficulties. http://www.pvracking.net/products/Accessories/WireClips-0-25-each-Sold-in-qty-of-300-WireClip-A300.html Jason Szumlanski Fafco Solar On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 9:30 AM, Drake drake.chamber...@redwoodalliance.org wrote: What wire restraint methods are you using? We are looking at possibly using these modules with a Unirac ULA system. At 09:24 AM 5/7/2012, you wrote: The 2.0 frames are very sturdy, but they are a bit hard to hold/carry with the rounded edge. We put 164 of them on the Naples Botanical Garden and it worked out great. Jason Szumlanski Fafco Solar On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 9:01 PM, Dave Palumbo d...@independentpowerllc.com wrote: All, We are considering using Solar World 2.0 framed modules. Not having put hands on these yet, we are looking for testimonials and opinions on these “top mount only” modules. And while we’re at, it what about Solar World’s 2.5’s with the bottom mount flange? David Palumbo Independent Power LLC 462 Solar Way Drive Hyde Park, VT 05655 www.independentpowerllc.com NABCEP Certified PV Installer Vermont Solar Partner 24 Years Experience, (802) 888-7194 %28802%29%20888-7194 ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org ** ** Drake Chamberlin**** ATHENS ELECTRIC LLC OH License 44810**** CO license 3773 NABCEP Certified PV ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org -- Cordially, *Nick Soleil* *Field Applications Engineer * *Enphase Energy* Mobile: (707) 321-2937 ** 201 1st St., Suite 300 Petaluma, CA 94952 www.enphase.com http://www.enphaseenergy.com/ P: (707) 763-4784 x7267 F: (707) 763-0784 E: nsol...@enphaseenergy.com [image: nabcep logo] Certified Solar PV Installer #03262011-300 “Don’t get me wrong: I love nuclear energy! It’s just that I prefer fusion to fission. And it just so happens that there’s an enormous fusion reactor safely banked a few million miles from us. It delivers more than we could ever use in just about 8 minutes. And it’s wireless! .” - William McDonough This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not an intended recipient, you may not review, use, copy, disclose or distribute this message. If you received this message in error, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. image002.jpg___ List
Re: [RE-wrenches] Solar World 2.0 frames
Hi Dave/Wrenches We've been using the SW with both the 2.5 and the 2.0 frames on most of our systems lately. The 2.0 frames work fine in traditional roof mounts, as long as the racking system chosen has good options for cable management. We did a DPW TPM with them last year where I came away in agreement with Todd, back mounting is better - I didn't like the DPW top mount clips. The lack of the flange on the pole mount was also difficult due to the inability to use clips to manage the PV cables. The modules are well constructed, durable and fairly square relative to others we've used. We are now using the 2.5 frame almost exclusively, the flange is also nice for top mounting because it feels more secure when handling the modules on roofs and scaffolding. Another benefit is we've been able to source them locally (as you would be able to as well of course) which has been really convenient. The black framed, mono crystalline modules with the 2.0 frame we did on a recent standing seam roof mount look great! Thanks Rich From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Dave Palumbo Sent: Friday, May 04, 2012 9:01 PM To: 'RE-wrenches' Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Solar World 2.0 frames All, We are considering using Solar World 2.0 framed modules. Not having put hands on these yet, we are looking for testimonials and opinions on these top mount only modules. And while we're at, it what about Solar World's 2.5's with the bottom mount flange? David Palumbo Independent Power LLC 462 Solar Way Drive Hyde Park, VT 05655 www.independentpowerllc.com NABCEP Certified PV Installer Vermont Solar Partner 24 Years Experience, (802) 888-7194 ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] Solar World 2.0 frames
I just finished today a 2.0 frame job. the wire management added to the problems, I used Snap N Rac rails and droped the wires into the wire way, I am concerned with the small section and I made my own optimizer mounts to get more clearance below the modules... dt From: Howie Michaelson ho...@suncatchervt.com To: RE-wrenches re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Sent: Friday, May 4, 2012 11:20 PM Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Solar World 2.0 frames Hi David, I agree with Todd - the lack of flange on any side or any other typical wire management method is a major pain. The modules are solid, but they are also thinner than typical, which also is the case with the 2.5 frames (which do have backside flanges along the long sides). The thinner frame caused a headache with vertical bolts used to attach optimizers behind the modules to the rails. Howie -- Howie Michaelson NABCEP Certified Solar PV Installer™ Catamount Solar, LLC Renewable Energy Systems Sales and Service VT Solar Electric Hot Water Incentive Partner http://www.CatamountSolar.com 802-272-0004 On Sat, May 5, 2012 12:09 am, toddc...@finestplanet.com wrote: i did a top of pole mount with these modules. the traditional pole mount hardware was replaced with dpw power rails. i know this is a solid mount but somehow nuts and bolts through a rear flange feels stronger. the biggest issue was there is no place to mount the wire routing clips. this proved somewhat problematic. i would not use these modules again because of that. todd On Friday, May 4, 2012 6:01pm, Dave Palumbo d...@independentpowerllc.com said: All, We are considering using Solar World 2.0 framed modules. Not having put hands on these yet, we are looking for testimonials and opinions on these “top mount onlyâ€� modules. And while we’re at, it what about Solar World’s 2.5’s with the bottom mount flange? David Palumbo Independent Power LLC 462 Solar Way Drive Hyde Park, VT 05655 www.independentpowerllc.com NABCEP Certified PV Installer Vermont Solar Partner 24 Years Experience, (802) 888-7194 Sent from Finest Planet WebMail. ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] Solar World 2.0 frames
All, We are considering using Solar World 2.0 framed modules. Not having put hands on these yet, we are looking for testimonials and opinions on these top mount only modules. And while we're at, it what about Solar World's 2.5's with the bottom mount flange? David Palumbo Independent Power LLC 462 Solar Way Drive Hyde Park, VT 05655 www.independentpowerllc.com NABCEP Certified PV Installer Vermont Solar Partner 24 Years Experience, (802) 888-7194 ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] Solar World 2.0 frames
i did a top of pole mount with these modules. the traditional pole mount hardware was replaced with dpw power rails. i know this is a solid mount but somehow nuts and bolts through a rear flange feels stronger. the biggest issue was there is no place to mount the wire routing clips. this proved somewhat problematic. i would not use these modules again because of that. todd On Friday, May 4, 2012 6:01pm, Dave Palumbo d...@independentpowerllc.com said: All, We are considering using Solar World 2.0 framed modules. Not having put hands on these yet, we are looking for testimonials and opinions on these “top mount only” modules. And while we’re at, it what about Solar World’s 2.5’s with the bottom mount flange? David Palumbo Independent Power LLC 462 Solar Way Drive Hyde Park, VT 05655 www.independentpowerllc.com NABCEP Certified PV Installer Vermont Solar Partner 24 Years Experience, (802) 888-7194 Sent from Finest Planet WebMail. ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] Solar World 2.0 frames
Hi David, I agree with Todd - the lack of flange on any side or any other typical wire management method is a major pain. The modules are solid, but they are also thinner than typical, which also is the case with the 2.5 frames (which do have backside flanges along the long sides). The thinner frame caused a headache with vertical bolts used to attach optimizers behind the modules to the rails. Howie -- Howie Michaelson NABCEP Certified Solar PV Installer Catamount Solar, LLC Renewable Energy Systems Sales and Service VT Solar Electric Hot Water Incentive Partner http://www.CatamountSolar.com 802-272-0004 On Sat, May 5, 2012 12:09 am, toddc...@finestplanet.com wrote: i did a top of pole mount with these modules. the traditional pole mount hardware was replaced with dpw power rails. i know this is a solid mount but somehow nuts and bolts through a rear flange feels stronger. the biggest issue was there is no place to mount the wire routing clips. this proved somewhat problematic. i would not use these modules again because of that. todd On Friday, May 4, 2012 6:01pm, Dave Palumbo d...@independentpowerllc.com said: All, We are considering using Solar World 2.0 framed modules. Not having put hands on these yet, we are looking for testimonials and opinions on these âtop mount onlyâ modules. And while weâre at, it what about Solar Worldâs 2.5âs with the bottom mount flange? David Palumbo Independent Power LLC 462 Solar Way Drive Hyde Park, VT 05655 www.independentpowerllc.com NABCEP Certified PV Installer Vermont Solar Partner 24 Years Experience, (802) 888-7194 Sent from Finest Planet WebMail. ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
