Re: [RE-wrenches] Solar over a Pool

2017-06-26 Thread Starlight Solar Power Systems
85°….I wish…it’s 114° here right now. Unshaded pools are unusable for many 
summer months, even at night, without a refrigeration system. But, in the 
winter, they need solar gain to reduce heating bills. Not a good plan for a 
permanent cover.

Larry


On Jun 26, 2017, at 2:49 PM, Jason Szumlanski 
 wrote:


Tom,

Down here a little further south in Florida, many of our clients might actually 
find that to be a benefit in the summer! Pools get bathwater hot here and 
nocturnal solar cooling is a hopeless proposition when it's 85F ambient and 95% 
humidity at night.

That said - I totally agree. Bad idea.

Jason Szumlanski

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FL State Certified Contractor License: CVC56956

On Sun, Jun 25, 2017 at 7:42 AM, Tom Lane > wrote:
Solar over a pool of any type electric or solar pool collectors , IS A BAD IDEA 
, as it will significantly drop the length of the swimming season as the pool 
will typically be between 6 to 10 F minimum colder all year . A screen cage 
over a pool typically drops the temperature a minimum of 5 to 10 F depending on 
how wide the weave of the screen AND how clean you keep the screen , a totally 
closed enclosure also has to deal with condensation. GatorTom

Tom Lane - Sent from my iPad
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Solar over a Pool

2017-06-26 Thread Jason Szumlanski
Tom,

Down here a little further south in Florida, many of our clients might
actually find that to be a benefit in the summer! Pools get bathwater hot
here and nocturnal solar cooling is a hopeless proposition when it's 85F
ambient and 95% humidity at night.

That said - I totally agree. Bad idea.

Jason Szumlanski

​​

FL State Certified Contractor License: CVC56956

On Sun, Jun 25, 2017 at 7:42 AM, Tom Lane  wrote:

> Solar over a pool of any type electric or solar pool collectors , IS A BAD
> IDEA , as it will significantly drop the length of the swimming season as
> the pool will typically be between 6 to 10 F minimum colder all year . A
> screen cage over a pool typically drops the temperature a minimum of 5 to
> 10 F depending on how wide the weave of the screen AND how clean you keep
> the screen , a totally closed enclosure also has to deal with condensation.
> GatorTom
>
> Tom Lane - Sent from my iPad
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[RE-wrenches] Solar over a Pool

2017-06-26 Thread Tom Lane
Solar over a pool of any type electric or solar pool collectors , IS A BAD IDEA 
, as it will significantly drop the length of the swimming season as the pool 
will typically be between 6 to 10 F minimum colder all year . A screen cage 
over a pool typically drops the temperature a minimum of 5 to 10 F depending on 
how wide the weave of the screen AND how clean you keep the screen , a totally 
closed enclosure also has to deal with condensation. GatorTom 

Tom Lane - Sent from my iPad
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Solar over a pool - what must I pay attention to?"

2017-06-22 Thread toddcory

increased corrosion from chlorine gas would likely be an issue too.
 
todd
 
 
 



On Wednesday, June 21, 2017 7:53pm, "Daniel Duffield"  said:



 
> Our go to 3M all weather pressure sensitive adhesive tape (double sided) a 
> product
> called VHB and it's performance has been excellent.
> On PV above pools, I don't have a code book in front of me but my experience 
> is
> conductors about the pools, have to be some astronomical number of feet above 
> the
> surface of the water, I think it was 25', pretty much eliminates most 
> structures, 
> being built after the fact, from being used - it's very prohibitive and it's
> because the splashing I think. With Roofs not being optimally laid out for 
> PV, 
> shade, chimneys, trees, available PV space is at a premium. The best we did 
> was
> the set up patio or gazebos structures adjacent to pools and created usable 
> shade
> space and place PV there -when there was available backyard space
> 
> Daniel O. Duffield
> NABCEP PV INSTALL Professional
> NM EE98 & ER01
>



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Re: [RE-wrenches] Solar over a pool - what must I pay attention to?

2017-06-21 Thread Jason Szumlanski
See NEC 680.8. From what I have been able to determine, it's completely
unworkable to install solar modules over a swimming pool unless you can
complete enclose all conductors in raceway, and even then it would be very
questionable by AHJs I have asked.

I get this question at least once a week in Florida. Usually it's something
like, "can't I just install them on my pool screened enclosure." Um, no.
Have you seen what hurricanes do to those things? :)

What's interesting is that sometimes roofs extend over the edge of a pool,
or certainly within 10' of the lateral pool wall boundary. But solar panels
with exposed wiring above these roofs are allowed by AHJs, so I guess if
it's on the roof (or in the attic), the conductor is not considered
"overhead" or "exposed."

Jason Szumlanski
Florida Solar Design Group




On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 3:47 PM, Howard Arey 
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[RE-wrenches] Solar over a pool - what must I pay attention to?

2017-06-21 Thread Howard Arey
Greetings, Wrenches!

 

I have a client that wants one of our solar pavilions over their pool. We
have never done this and wanted to hear opinions on what code requirements
might be pertinent (or little known) for solar modules over water.

 

Howard "Scot" Arey

Owner, Solar CenTex

NABCEP Certified PV Installation Professional

254-300-1228

scot.a...@solarcentex.com

 

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