Re: [RE-wrenches] Strategies for hurricane resistant solar arrays?

2016-10-14 Thread Benn Kilburn 
Here is are a couple bare bones suggestion...tweak as needed...

I would avoid permanently closing in the back of the array in any way as it 
will increase heat build up and reduce efficiency. Have some pre cut materials, 
ready to go, stashed on the roof that could be attached in short time only when 
needed. 

If the glass is being "sucked out" the front of the frame and the racks and mod 
frames themselves are proving to be strong then maybe adjust your rack mounting 
strategy so the number of mods in a row is reduced so that, when hurricanes are 
forecasted, you can clamp down to the frame or rack (or otherwise attach) a 
length (or two) of 2" angle aluminum/steel or other suitable material across 
the front of the mods. The strength of the material would determine how many 
mods wide it could span. 
Line the back of the "hurricane bar" with carpet or other suitable material so 
not to scratch the glass. 


Benn Kilburn
SkyFire Energy Inc. 
780-906-7807

> On Oct 13, 2016, at 4:20 PM, Darren Anderson  wrote:
> 
> In light of Hurricane Matthew and the loss of some of our PV systems on South 
> Coast of Haiti (despite being designed for 120 - 150mph winds), I’d be 
> interested to hear of any strategies being used for making 
> hurricane-resistant solar arrays. The maximum wind speed that most 
> commercially available racking systems seem to provide is 130 – 150mph, but 
> in many cases it seems the racking survives okay anyway while the glass is 
> blown right out of the module frames. 
> 
> Are there any modules rated for higher than 2400 Pascals of wind loading 
> (which seems to be the norm)? I recall seeing a Mitsubishi module a few years 
> back that had an additional frame member running across the back of the 
> module. Would that provide extra wind load protection?
> 
> Would using small solar modules with less surface area be a useful strategy? 
> (We typically use standard 60-cell modules.)
> 
> Can some sort of wind break or shield be designed into the frame to take the 
> wind load off the solar modules themselves? (Many of our systems are on 
> tilt-frames on flat concrete roofs so that back of the array is exposed.)
> 
> Any thoughts/advice/experience in this area would be much appreciated. 
> Thanks. 
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Strategies for hurricane resistant solar arrays?

2016-10-14 Thread Chris Mason 
All our installations are in the Caribbean. The glass blow out (or suck out
which is more likely) doesn't surprise me, that is the design limitation.
It doesn't matter how tough the rail is if the modules blow out.
Tilt installations are bad for hurricane zones. I keep out flat roof
installations to a lower tilt than is recommended for this reason. I also
favour parapets around the roof to protect them, so if you have some blocks
and masons around, let them add two rows of blocks to the roof line.
I suspect smaller modules are stronger, so 180W modules would be better
than 300W.
CanadianSolar have a line of 300~W modules with a bar across the back, but
it will only help with blow not suck as it is not attached to the backing.
I've looked at fitting a crossbar into the frame attached to the backing
with 5200 or similar, but the question is, how are you going to test, you
have killed the warranty, and is it worth it?
This is a tough place to install solar.

On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 6:20 PM, Darren Anderson  wrote:

> In light of Hurricane Matthew and the loss of some of our PV systems on
> South Coast of Haiti (despite being designed for 120 - 150mph winds), I’d
> be interested to hear of any strategies being used for making
> hurricane-resistant solar arrays. The maximum wind speed that most
> commercially available racking systems seem to provide is 130 – 150mph, but
> in many cases it seems the racking survives okay anyway while the glass is
> blown right out of the module frames.
>
> Are there any modules rated for higher than 2400 Pascals of wind loading
> (which seems to be the norm)? I recall seeing a Mitsubishi module a few
> years back that had an additional frame member running across the back of
> the module. Would that provide extra wind load protection?
>
> Would using small solar modules with less surface area be a useful
> strategy? (We typically use standard 60-cell modules.)
>
> Can some sort of wind break or shield be designed into the frame to take
> the wind load off the solar modules themselves? (Many of our systems are on
> tilt-frames on flat concrete roofs so that back of the array is exposed.)
>
> Any thoughts/advice/experience in this area would be much appreciated.
> Thanks.
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[RE-wrenches] Strategies for hurricane resistant solar arrays?

2016-10-13 Thread Darren Anderson 
In light of Hurricane Matthew and the loss of some of our PV systems on South 
Coast of Haiti (despite being designed for 120 - 150mph winds), I’d be 
interested to hear of any strategies being used for making hurricane-resistant 
solar arrays. The maximum wind speed that most commercially available racking 
systems seem to provide is 130 – 150mph, but in many cases it seems the racking 
survives okay anyway while the glass is blown right out of the module frames.

Are there any modules rated for higher than 2400 Pascals of wind loading (which 
seems to be the norm)? I recall seeing a Mitsubishi module a few years back 
that had an additional frame member running across the back of the module. 
Would that provide extra wind load protection?

Would using small solar modules with less surface area be a useful strategy? 
(We typically use standard 60-cell modules.)

Can some sort of wind break or shield be designed into the frame to take the 
wind load off the solar modules themselves? (Many of our systems are on 
tilt-frames on flat concrete roofs so that back of the array is exposed.)

Any thoughts/advice/experience in this area would be much appreciated. Thanks.
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