Re: [RE-wrenches] Which commercial string inverters?
Hi Stephen, My most recent experience has been with SMA Tripower and Fronius Symo inverters. Previously, we installed dozens of Power-One (ABB) PVI 10.0 and 12.0 inverters in the < 2015 time period. Although I’ve heard lots of bad stories about those inverters, ours have been quite reliable overall. We had a couple go down that we were replaced under warranty. They were all 208 volt services on those sites for mostly multifamily buildings. We’ve installed the SMA Tripowers in both 1000 VDC and 600 VDC configurations. The 1000 VDC project was hard but I think that’s because it was our first time and we did it right when the inverters were new back in 2013. We have had ongoing problems with one of the 24k units on that site mostly relating to tripping offline due to inductance or arc fault issues. We have replaced the one problem unit and updated firmware several times and now all is well. Other more recently installed sites with the SMA Tripowers worked flawlessly. Tech support with SMA is mostly positive, but sometimes it is hard to get a hold of someone when you need to. We have not commissioned the Fronius Symo sites yet so I can’t comment on how well they work. This is outside of your system target size range, but we recently installed a couple of SolarEdge 14.4 k units. In the 480 volt variant, I think they are available up to 33.3 kW. Anyway, they are amazingly small for their output size and bought us a lot of design flexibility. Only time will tell how reliable the SE inverters and optimizers will be. All in all, we always review all options for a given project and start looking at cost compared to design constraints to select the best inverter(s) for the project. I’m hopeful that Fronius’ new line will perform well because their cost and feature set are appealing. Cheers, August Luminalt *From:* RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] *On Behalf Of *Stephen K *Sent:* Tuesday, August 16, 2016 3:26 PM *To:* re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org *Subject:* [RE-wrenches] Which commercial string inverters? Hello RE-Wrenches, I'm a long time recipient of great knowledge, experience and advice from this list, but I've been an infrequent poster. I'm curious about this list's opinion on the current status of the Commercial sized string inverter product options (from ~10kW to 80kW, 600 and 1000VDC flavors). What are your preferred inverters for ~250kW to ~2MW, US based installations (any mounting type - ground-mount, rooftop, carport etc)? How would you rank the most well-known brands considering any of the following categories: a) quality and reliability / uptime b) long-term O&M issues c) Tech Support and RMA processes d) DAS (or SCADA) factors and challenges e) cost f) flexibility with design variables g) arc fault issues h) rapid shut down i) firmware/software glitches j) other Some brand name suggestions we've become familiar with over the years include - Fronius, SMA, Solectria, Chint, AE, ABB, Kaco, Refusol, Huawei, SunGrowand more Thanks for sharing your thoughts everyone, *Stephen Kane* *Namaste Solar* *Co-Owner | Commercial Service and O&M* *NABCEP Certified in Solar PV Installation* *303.447.0300 x308 <303.447.0300%20x308>* *stephen.k...@namastesolar.com * 4571 Broadway Street | Boulder, Colorado 80304 3330 Larimer Street, Suite 1A | Denver, Colorado 80205 ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html List rules & etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
Re: [RE-wrenches] Which commercial string inverters?
Wrenches We do lots of bigger systems and our inverter of choice has been SMA, we have seen many manufacturers either fail or be bought out, neither we have any control over but considering issues SMA has had the least of any. We have used fronius, AE, ABB, and satcon some filled with rain water, some just die, so far SMA has been good on all fronts with 15 tripower 24 k`s on line at one location all in the weather 100% on line, we have 50 k at the wetest locations there is and they work well there too. Jerry On Aug 16, 2016 12:26 PM, "Stephen K" wrote: > Hello RE-Wrenches, > > > I'm a long time recipient of great knowledge, experience and advice from > this list, but I've been an infrequent poster. > > > I'm curious about this list's opinion on the current status of the > Commercial sized string inverter product options (from ~10kW to 80kW, 600 > and 1000VDC flavors). > > What are your preferred inverters for ~250kW to ~2MW, US based > installations (any mounting type - ground-mount, rooftop, carport etc)? > > > How would you rank the most well-known brands considering any of the > following categories: > > > > a) quality and reliability / uptime > > b) long-term O&M issues > > c) Tech Support and RMA processes > > d) DAS (or SCADA) factors and challenges > > e) cost > > f) flexibility with design variables > > g) arc fault issues > > h) rapid shut down > > i) firmware/software glitches > > j) other > > > Some brand name suggestions we've become familiar with over the years > include - Fronius, SMA, Solectria, Chint, AE, ABB, Kaco, Refusol, Huawei, > SunGrowand more > > > Thanks for sharing your thoughts everyone, > > > > *Stephen Kane* > > *Namaste Solar* > > *Co-Owner | Commercial Service and O&M* > > *NABCEP Certified in Solar PV Installation* > > *303.447.0300 x308 <303.447.0300%20x308>* > > *stephen.k...@namastesolar.com * > > 4571 Broadway Street | Boulder, Colorado 80304 > > 3330 Larimer Street, Suite 1A | Denver, Colorado 80205 > > ___ > List sponsored by Redwood Alliance > > List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org > > Change listserver email address & settings: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List-Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches. > org/maillist.html > > List rules & etiquette: > www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm > > Check out or update participant bios: > www.members.re-wrenches.org > > > ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html List rules & etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
[RE-wrenches] Which commercial string inverters?
Hello RE-Wrenches, I'm a long time recipient of great knowledge, experience and advice from this list, but I've been an infrequent poster. I'm curious about this list's opinion on the current status of the Commercial sized string inverter product options (from ~10kW to 80kW, 600 and 1000VDC flavors). What are your preferred inverters for ~250kW to ~2MW, US based installations (any mounting type - ground-mount, rooftop, carport etc)? How would you rank the most well-known brands considering any of the following categories: a) quality and reliability / uptime b) long-term O&M issues c) Tech Support and RMA processes d) DAS (or SCADA) factors and challenges e) cost f) flexibility with design variables g) arc fault issues h) rapid shut down i) firmware/software glitches j) other Some brand name suggestions we've become familiar with over the years include - Fronius, SMA, Solectria, Chint, AE, ABB, Kaco, Refusol, Huawei, SunGrowand more Thanks for sharing your thoughts everyone, *Stephen Kane* *Namaste Solar* *Co-Owner | Commercial Service and O&M* *NABCEP Certified in Solar PV Installation* *303.447.0300 x308 <303.447.0300%20x308>* *stephen.k...@namastesolar.com * 4571 Broadway Street | Boulder, Colorado 80304 3330 Larimer Street, Suite 1A | Denver, Colorado 80205 ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html List rules & etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
