Re: [RE-wrenches] Wireless float switch control

[MiJo Nels]

Welcome back Nick, our wrenches community is by far the last remaining bastion 
of "open sourced knowledge" .. I feel so much love and appreciation for all of 
you!

(I think LOS communications will do the trick for your application)..

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From: RE-wrenches  on behalf of Nick 
A Lucchese 
Sent: Monday, January 4, 2021 12:44:39 PM
To: Jeff Clearwater 
Cc: RE-wrenches 
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Wireless float switch control

Thanks a bunch Jeff,

I was on Wrenches from 2000-2010 but then when I left the business of my 
previous employer working for Jon Hill at Sierra Solar Systems I never took the 
time to rejoin. I thought I had changed my email a couple times but apparently 
not successfully. Too much time out in the field but never stopped thinking 
about all of you!

Thanks a bunch for letting me know about the RPS solution. After I had posted 
that inquiry last week I did do a little more searching but definitely seems 
like a lot of them either have range issues or cost hurdles. Heading back to 
the site this week to confirm line of site for the RPS solution. Still waiting 
on a call back from them about pricing.

Happy 2021, Nick


On Jan 1, 2021, at 11:39 AM, Jeff Clearwater 
mailto:je...@villagelab.net>> wrote:

Welcome Back Nick!

Nice to see your name here - Wrenches continues to be a fabulous resource - 
some of us have been here close to 25 years!

So check out:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnhUGGjv5WM

I don't have direct experience with this wireless sensor but it looks solid:  
https://www.rpssolarpumps.com/

A google search reveals some others that look less expensive so take a look.

<https://www.rpssolarpumps.com/>Hope that helps,

Best
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnhUGGjv5WM>
Nick A Lucchese<mailto:luccheseso...@me.com>
December 31, 2020 at 10:20 AM
Greetings Wrenches,

I’ve mostly been trying to get away from pumping systems but decided to take on 
a small solar direct Grundfos system for a friend’s mother that lives on my 
road. The well and ideal spot for the array sits about 1000’ away from the 
tanks and it’s the typical scenario of switching over an existing setup where 
all the plumbing lines have been buried for many years so there is no 
opportunity to bury a conduit or cable for the float switch conductors. I’m 
aware of the reverse action pressure switch strategy but do not want to 
pressure the fill lines for multiple reasons. Also, the existing float switch 
wires do not run all the way to the well head either even if I did want to 
rework those and invert the logic with another relay elsewhere. For obvious 
reasons I can’t reassign the old power conductors to the pump either since I 
need to keep those in place to use with the IO101 as backup.

I’ve installed many dozens of these systems over the years and have always 
found a way around it but this job really begs for some sort of wireless 
solution. I’ve been off the Wrenches list for 10 years now so there are many 
threads I’ve not seen and figured maybe the group has come up with a solution 
strategy for these scenarios by now? Obviously the age of Wifi, Bluetooth etc 
has brought us many wireless solutions that did not exist years ago so I’m 
hopeful we now have an answer to these headaches? Even if I needed to add a 
small battery system to power it.

Also just want to say how much I appreciate this list. I rejoined a few weeks 
ago after 10 years off of it and it is so great to see all the familiar 
technicians here. Thank you to Michael and all of you, new and old, for being 
part of the good fight to strive for quality and integrity in this passion we 
all share. The planet needs us more than ever and I feel fortunate for every 
one of you. This list is an incredible resource!

Hope all of you have a great last few hours of 2020 and a prosperous 2021!

Nick A Lucchese

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Re: [RE-wrenches] Wireless float switch control

[Nick A Lucchese]

Thanks a bunch Jeff,

I was on Wrenches from 2000-2010 but then when I left the business of my 
previous employer working for Jon Hill at Sierra Solar Systems I never took the 
time to rejoin. I thought I had changed my email a couple times but apparently 
not successfully. Too much time out in the field but never stopped thinking 
about all of you!

Thanks a bunch for letting me know about the RPS solution. After I had posted 
that inquiry last week I did do a little more searching but definitely seems 
like a lot of them either have range issues or cost hurdles. Heading back to 
the site this week to confirm line of site for the RPS solution. Still waiting 
on a call back from them about pricing.

Happy 2021, Nick


> On Jan 1, 2021, at 11:39 AM, Jeff Clearwater  wrote:
> 
> Welcome Back Nick!
> 
> Nice to see your name here - Wrenches continues to be a fabulous resource - 
> some of us have been here close to 25 years!
> 
> So check out:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnhUGGjv5WM 
> 
> 
> I don't have direct experience with this wireless sensor but it looks solid:  
> https://www.rpssolarpumps.com/ 
> 
> A google search reveals some others that look less expensive so take a look.
> 
>  Hope that helps,
> 
> Best
>  
>> Nick A Lucchese  December 31, 2020 at 10:20 AM
>> Greetings Wrenches,
>> 
>> I’ve mostly been trying to get away from pumping systems but decided to take 
>> on a small solar direct Grundfos system for a friend’s mother that lives on 
>> my road. The well and ideal spot for the array sits about 1000’ away from 
>> the tanks and it’s the typical scenario of switching over an existing setup 
>> where all the plumbing lines have been buried for many years so there is no 
>> opportunity to bury a conduit or cable for the float switch conductors. I’m 
>> aware of the reverse action pressure switch strategy but do not want to 
>> pressure the fill lines for multiple reasons. Also, the existing float 
>> switch wires do not run all the way to the well head either even if I did 
>> want to rework those and invert the logic with another relay elsewhere. For 
>> obvious reasons I can’t reassign the old power conductors to the pump either 
>> since I need to keep those in place to use with the IO101 as backup.
>> 
>> I’ve installed many dozens of these systems over the years and have always 
>> found a way around it but this job really begs for some sort of wireless 
>> solution. I’ve been off the Wrenches list for 10 years now so there are many 
>> threads I’ve not seen and figured maybe the group has come up with a 
>> solution strategy for these scenarios by now? Obviously the age of Wifi, 
>> Bluetooth etc has brought us many wireless solutions that did not exist 
>> years ago so I’m hopeful we now have an answer to these headaches? Even if I 
>> needed to add a small battery system to power it.
>> 
>> Also just want to say how much I appreciate this list. I rejoined a few 
>> weeks ago after 10 years off of it and it is so great to see all the 
>> familiar technicians here. Thank you to Michael and all of you, new and old, 
>> for being part of the good fight to strive for quality and integrity in this 
>> passion we all share. The planet needs us more than ever and I feel 
>> fortunate for every one of you. This list is an incredible resource!
>> 
>> Hope all of you have a great last few hours of 2020 and a prosperous 2021! 
>> 
>> Nick A Lucchese
>> 
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Wireless float switch control

[Jeff Clearwater]

Welcome Back Nick!

Nice to see your name here - Wrenches continues to be a fabulous 
resource - some of us have been here close to 25 years!


So check out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnhUGGjv5WM

I don't have direct experience with this wireless sensor but it looks 
solid: https://www.rpssolarpumps.com/


A google search reveals some others that look less expensive so take a look.

Hope that helps,

Best


Nick A Lucchese 
December 31, 2020 at 10:20 AM
Greetings Wrenches,

I’ve mostly been trying to get away from pumping systems but decided 
to take on a small solar direct Grundfos system for a friend’s mother 
that lives on my road. The well and ideal spot for the array sits 
about 1000’ away from the tanks and it’s the typical scenario of 
switching over an existing setup where all the plumbing lines have 
been buried for many years so there is no opportunity to bury a 
conduit or cable for the float switch conductors. I’m aware of the 
reverse action pressure switch strategy but do not want to pressure 
the fill lines for multiple reasons. Also, the existing float switch 
wires do not run all the way to the well head either even if I did 
want to rework those and invert the logic with another relay 
elsewhere. For obvious reasons I can’t reassign the old power 
conductors to the pump either since I need to keep those in place to 
use with the IO101 as backup.


I’ve installed many dozens of these systems over the years and have 
always found a way around it but this job really begs for some sort of 
wireless solution. I’ve been off the Wrenches list for 10 years now so 
there are many threads I’ve not seen and figured maybe the group has 
come up with a solution strategy for these scenarios by now? Obviously 
the age of Wifi, Bluetooth etc has brought us many wireless solutions 
that did not exist years ago so I’m hopeful we now have an answer to 
these headaches? Even if I needed to add a small battery system to 
power it.


Also just want to say how much I appreciate this list. I rejoined a 
few weeks ago after 10 years off of it and it is so great to see all 
the familiar technicians here. Thank you to Michael and all of you, 
new and old, for being part of the good fight to strive for quality 
and integrity in this passion we all share. The planet needs us more 
than ever and I feel fortunate for every one of you. This list is an 
incredible resource!


Hope all of you have a great last few hours of 2020 and a prosperous 
2021!


Nick A Lucchese

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[RE-wrenches] Wireless float switch control

[Nick A Lucchese]

Greetings Wrenches,

I’ve mostly been trying to get away from pumping systems but decided to take on 
a small solar direct Grundfos system for a friend’s mother that lives on my 
road. The well and ideal spot for the array sits about 1000’ away from the 
tanks and it’s the typical scenario of switching over an existing setup where 
all the plumbing lines have been buried for many years so there is no 
opportunity to bury a conduit or cable for the float switch conductors. I’m 
aware of the reverse action pressure switch strategy but do not want to 
pressure the fill lines for multiple reasons. Also, the existing float switch 
wires do not run all the way to the well head either even if I did want to 
rework those and invert the logic with another relay elsewhere. For obvious 
reasons I can’t reassign the old power conductors to the pump either since I 
need to keep those in place to use with the IO101 as backup.

I’ve installed many dozens of these systems over the years and have always 
found a way around it but this job really begs for some sort of wireless 
solution. I’ve been off the Wrenches list for 10 years now so there are many 
threads I’ve not seen and figured maybe the group has come up with a solution 
strategy for these scenarios by now? Obviously the age of Wifi, Bluetooth etc 
has brought us many wireless solutions that did not exist years ago so I’m 
hopeful we now have an answer to these headaches? Even if I needed to add a 
small battery system to power it.

Also just want to say how much I appreciate this list. I rejoined a few weeks 
ago after 10 years off of it and it is so great to see all the familiar 
technicians here. Thank you to Michael and all of you, new and old, for being 
part of the good fight to strive for quality and integrity in this passion we 
all share. The planet needs us more than ever and I feel fortunate for every 
one of you. This list is an incredible resource!

Hope all of you have a great last few hours of 2020 and a prosperous 2021! 

Nick A Lucchese

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