Re: [RE-wrenches] fortress power question

2021-02-01 Thread Eric Smiley 
My experience and advice from Tech Support at Fortress was NOT to network
the eVault 18.5 with only 2 batteries. We just installed two eVault18.5
with one Sol-Ark12K. The communication doesn't work properly with only two
batteries. The tech advised to run both batteries independently as Masters,
which was the only way we could make it work. All attempts at networking
them failed. We didn't try to network the batteries to the inverter.
Of course, Murphy's Law dictated that this was a remote system with no
internet or cell reception. So, I had to make a second trip out to make it
work after I found this out from Tech Support the next morning.
Apparently you can network one battery with the Sol-Ark in closed loop but
the tech I talked to said how this is done (special com cable) varies with
the version of the Sol-Ark one is using since Sol-Ark has been making
changes to their circuit board.

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On Mon, 1 Feb 2021 at 14:01, Jason Szumlanski <
ja...@floridasolardesigngroup.com> wrote:

> I think this was mentioned by others, but Fortress confirmed to me today
> that closed loop only works with one or two evault batteries with Sol-Ark.
> More than that and communications breaks down. They're working on a fix,
> but they told me that there are no guarantees. They could not give me a
> date. It sounded like it was a hardware fix and existing batteries would
> not be upgradable.
>
> Jason
>
> On Mon, Feb 1, 2021, 2:22 PM Chris Sparadeo 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Jay,
>>
>> Yes, when installed in a closed loop configuration, the Sol Ark uses the
>> SOC% provided by the BMS...which can be used to control the AGS.
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 1, 2021 at 1:58 PM Jay  wrote:
>>
>>> Thx Chris.
>>>
>>> Does the sol ark use the % info from the batteries for ags operation?
>>>
>>> Jay
>>>
>>> On Feb 1, 2021, at 10:10 AM, Chris Sparadeo 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> Jay,
>>>
>>> I have installed the eFlex paired with Sol Ark and it was very straight
>>> forward. You need to make a modified RJ45 cable, but other than that, it’s
>>> pretty much plug and play. I believe that Fortress is still working on
>>> their WiFi monitoring for the eFlex...They say the eVault will be closed
>>> loop by Q2.
>>>
>>> -Chris
>>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 1, 2021 at 11:56 AM Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar <
>>> offgridso...@sti.net> wrote:
>>>
 Jay,

 I worked with them on the XW to close the loop. They did get it working
 with Eflex and it is easy to commission. However, they were not able to
 get
 the conext insight data out to the cloud totally implemented. Until they
 prove that to me, I will stay with Discover AES. The site at the bottom
 showing state of charge is an AES battery BTW.


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 > Some questions to those installing  fortress power.
 >
 > 1. has anyone installed them in a closed loop comm and if so, which
 > inverter
 >
 > 2. it doesn’t appear that there is any online or app for
 > communication/monitoring?
 >
 > thx
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Re: [RE-wrenches] fortress power question

2021-02-01 Thread Jason Szumlanski 
I think this was mentioned by others, but Fortress confirmed to me today
that closed loop only works with one or two evault batteries with Sol-Ark.
More than that and communications breaks down. They're working on a fix,
but they told me that there are no guarantees. They could not give me a
date. It sounded like it was a hardware fix and existing batteries would
not be upgradable.

Jason

On Mon, Feb 1, 2021, 2:22 PM Chris Sparadeo 
wrote:

> Hi Jay,
>
> Yes, when installed in a closed loop configuration, the Sol Ark uses the
> SOC% provided by the BMS...which can be used to control the AGS.
>
> On Mon, Feb 1, 2021 at 1:58 PM Jay  wrote:
>
>> Thx Chris.
>>
>> Does the sol ark use the % info from the batteries for ags operation?
>>
>> Jay
>>
>> On Feb 1, 2021, at 10:10 AM, Chris Sparadeo 
>> wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> Jay,
>>
>> I have installed the eFlex paired with Sol Ark and it was very straight
>> forward. You need to make a modified RJ45 cable, but other than that, it’s
>> pretty much plug and play. I believe that Fortress is still working on
>> their WiFi monitoring for the eFlex...They say the eVault will be closed
>> loop by Q2.
>>
>> -Chris
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 1, 2021 at 11:56 AM Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar <
>> offgridso...@sti.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Jay,
>>>
>>> I worked with them on the XW to close the loop. They did get it working
>>> with Eflex and it is easy to commission. However, they were not able to
>>> get
>>> the conext insight data out to the cloud totally implemented. Until they
>>> prove that to me, I will stay with Discover AES. The site at the bottom
>>> showing state of charge is an AES battery BTW.
>>>
>>>
>>> Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar
>>> "we go where powerlines don't"
>>> http://members.sti.net/offgridsolar/
>>> e-mail offgridso...@sti.net
>>> text 209 813 0060
>>>
>>> On Mon, 1 Feb 2021 08:43:03 -0700, jay  wrote:
>>> > Some questions to those installing  fortress power.
>>> >
>>> > 1. has anyone installed them in a closed loop comm and if so, which
>>> > inverter
>>> >
>>> > 2. it doesn’t appear that there is any online or app for
>>> > communication/monitoring?
>>> >
>>> > thx
>>> > jay
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Re: [RE-wrenches] fortress power question

2021-02-01 Thread Chris Sparadeo 
Hi Jay,

Yes, when installed in a closed loop configuration, the Sol Ark uses the
SOC% provided by the BMS...which can be used to control the AGS.

On Mon, Feb 1, 2021 at 1:58 PM Jay  wrote:

> Thx Chris.
>
> Does the sol ark use the % info from the batteries for ags operation?
>
> Jay
>
> On Feb 1, 2021, at 10:10 AM, Chris Sparadeo 
> wrote:
>
> 
>
> Jay,
>
> I have installed the eFlex paired with Sol Ark and it was very straight
> forward. You need to make a modified RJ45 cable, but other than that, it’s
> pretty much plug and play. I believe that Fortress is still working on
> their WiFi monitoring for the eFlex...They say the eVault will be closed
> loop by Q2.
>
> -Chris
>
> On Mon, Feb 1, 2021 at 11:56 AM Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar <
> offgridso...@sti.net> wrote:
>
>> Jay,
>>
>> I worked with them on the XW to close the loop. They did get it working
>> with Eflex and it is easy to commission. However, they were not able to
>> get
>> the conext insight data out to the cloud totally implemented. Until they
>> prove that to me, I will stay with Discover AES. The site at the bottom
>> showing state of charge is an AES battery BTW.
>>
>>
>> Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar
>> "we go where powerlines don't"
>> http://members.sti.net/offgridsolar/
>> e-mail offgridso...@sti.net
>> text 209 813 0060
>>
>> On Mon, 1 Feb 2021 08:43:03 -0700, jay  wrote:
>> > Some questions to those installing  fortress power.
>> >
>> > 1. has anyone installed them in a closed loop comm and if so, which
>> > inverter
>> >
>> > 2. it doesn’t appear that there is any online or app for
>> > communication/monitoring?
>> >
>> > thx
>> > jay
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Re: [RE-wrenches] fortress power question

2021-02-01 Thread Jay 
Thx Chris. 

Does the sol ark use the % info from the batteries for ags operation?

Jay

> On Feb 1, 2021, at 10:10 AM, Chris Sparadeo  wrote:
> 
> 
> Jay,
> 
> I have installed the eFlex paired with Sol Ark and it was very straight 
> forward. You need to make a modified RJ45 cable, but other than that, it’s 
> pretty much plug and play. I believe that Fortress is still working on their 
> WiFi monitoring for the eFlex...They say the eVault will be closed loop by 
> Q2. 
> 
> -Chris 
> 
>> On Mon, Feb 1, 2021 at 11:56 AM Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar 
>>  wrote:
>> Jay,
>> 
>> I worked with them on the XW to close the loop. They did get it working
>> with Eflex and it is easy to commission. However, they were not able to get
>> the conext insight data out to the cloud totally implemented. Until they
>> prove that to me, I will stay with Discover AES. The site at the bottom
>> showing state of charge is an AES battery BTW.
>> 
>> 
>> Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar
>> "we go where powerlines don't"
>> http://members.sti.net/offgridsolar/
>> e-mail offgridso...@sti.net
>> text 209 813 0060
>> 
>> On Mon, 1 Feb 2021 08:43:03 -0700, jay  wrote:
>> > Some questions to those installing  fortress power.
>> > 
>> > 1. has anyone installed them in a closed loop comm and if so, which
>> > inverter
>> > 
>> > 2. it doesn’t appear that there is any online or app for
>> > communication/monitoring?
>> > 
>> > thx
>> > jay
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Re: [RE-wrenches] fortress power question

2021-02-01 Thread Chris Sparadeo 
Jay,

I have installed the eFlex paired with Sol Ark and it was very straight
forward. You need to make a modified RJ45 cable, but other than that, it’s
pretty much plug and play. I believe that Fortress is still working on
their WiFi monitoring for the eFlex...They say the eVault will be closed
loop by Q2.

-Chris

On Mon, Feb 1, 2021 at 11:56 AM Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar <
offgridso...@sti.net> wrote:

> Jay,
>
> I worked with them on the XW to close the loop. They did get it working
> with Eflex and it is easy to commission. However, they were not able to get
> the conext insight data out to the cloud totally implemented. Until they
> prove that to me, I will stay with Discover AES. The site at the bottom
> showing state of charge is an AES battery BTW.
>
>
> Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar
> "we go where powerlines don't"
> http://members.sti.net/offgridsolar/
> e-mail offgridso...@sti.net
> text 209 813 0060
>
> On Mon, 1 Feb 2021 08:43:03 -0700, jay  wrote:
> > Some questions to those installing  fortress power.
> >
> > 1. has anyone installed them in a closed loop comm and if so, which
> > inverter
> >
> > 2. it doesn’t appear that there is any online or app for
> > communication/monitoring?
> >
> > thx
> > jay
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Re: [RE-wrenches] fortress power question

2021-02-01 Thread Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar 
Jay,

I worked with them on the XW to close the loop. They did get it working
with Eflex and it is easy to commission. However, they were not able to get
the conext insight data out to the cloud totally implemented. Until they
prove that to me, I will stay with Discover AES. The site at the bottom
showing state of charge is an AES battery BTW.


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> 
> 1. has anyone installed them in a closed loop comm and if so, which
> inverter
> 
> 2. it doesn’t appear that there is any online or app for
> communication/monitoring?
> 
> thx
> jay
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[RE-wrenches] fortress power question

2021-02-01 Thread jay 
Some questions to those installing  fortress power.

1. has anyone installed them in a closed loop comm and if so, which inverter

2. it doesn’t appear that there is any online or app for 
communication/monitoring?

thx
jay
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