Re: [RE-wrenches] Milwaukee M18 one key tools

[William Dorsett]

Glenn, these pre-set wrenches are still pretty pricey. Are there some you’d 
recommend?

 

Bill Dorsett

Manhattan, KS

 

From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf 
Of Glenn Burt
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 12:29 PM
To: RE-wrenches
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Milwaukee M18 one key tools

 

For fasteners that are used often and in volume, you can buy pre-set torque 
tools that make compliance and repetitive securing a no-brainer.

Glenn

  _  

From: Ray Walters <mailto:r...@solarray.com> 
Sent: ‎11/‎30/‎2016 13:05
To: RE-wrenches <mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> 
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Milwaukee M18 one key tools

I get the torque wrench out occasionally to check, especially if using some new 
hardware with different specs.  However on a daily basis, I generally do it by 
feel.  I have come across an amazing number of over and under torqued 
connections over the years, though, so it really is an issue for all of us to 
watch out for.  Even though I'm not toting a torque wrench up on the roof, I 
still hand tighten the final half turn on all connections, to make sure they 
are right.  I don't run a big crew anymore, but I could see the advantage in 
having pre-programmed settings for the new people.




R.Ray Walters
CTO, Solarray, Inc
Nabcep Certified PV Installer, 
Licensed Master Electrician
Solar Design Engineer
303 505-8760

On 11/29/2016 2:01 PM, Kirk Herander 

 

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Re: [RE-wrenches] Milwaukee M18 one key tools

[Chris Mason]

I absolutely use a torque wrench on big electrical equipment, when
tightening 2/0 to 500MCM terminals. I carry an electronic 3/8 torque wrench
in the truck for that. When I do generators and large switchgear I regard
it as essential to get the correct torque settings and use them.
I use a set of three Filo torque screwdriver handles covering 1.5 to 4.5 Nm
with two sets of drivers, use them for all inverter connections.
I'll generally use the torque screwdriver to check a new panel, go over all
the breaker terminals once we have finished.


On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 5:01 PM, Kirk Herander  wrote:

> My strategy is to have several spares in a multi-bay charger, and change
> out when the battery reads 50% (2 bars). Subjective, I know, but we are
> talking in-lbs when tightening rack hardware, not ft-lbs. Anyway, I’ll
> report back to the list once I get my programmable M18’s and try it out.
>
>
>
> And I’m curious, how many of us actually use a torque wrench on the job
> with any regularity, be it rack or electrical connections? I have never
> seen an everyday electrician use one, even on serious industrial work in a
> tightly controlled jobsite. Every lug, connector, fastener has a
> recommended torque. I think we all have seen the damage heat causes as the
> result of a loose connection.
>
> The last commercial system I did, a third party was hired to audit the PV
> work. It was on the checklist to spot check torques. I have been
> spot-checking torque ever since.
>
>
>
> *From:* RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Ray Walters
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 29, 2016 1:14 PM
>
> *To:* RE-wrenches
> *Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] Milwaukee M18 one key tools
>
>
>
> I own the M18, and the power varies noticeably with discharge, and also
> with higher amp hour packs.  My drill screams with a 5 AH pack!  I agree
> its less of a drop with discharge than with lead acid or NiiCad, but its
> still enough to make torque settings inaccurate.
>
>
> R.Ray Walters
>
> CTO, Solarray, Inc
>
> Nabcep Certified PV Installer,
>
> Licensed Master Electrician
>
> Solar Design Engineer
>
> 303 505-8760 <(303)%20505-8760>
>
> On 11/29/2016 10:32 AM, Kirk Herander wrote:
>
> M18 lithium batteries deliver full power until they are almost fully
> discharged. I doubt it’s an issue.
>
>
>
> *From:* RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org
> ] *On Behalf Of *Glenn Burt
> *Sent:* Monday, November 28, 2016 8:59 PM
> *To:* 'RE-wrenches'
> *Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] Milwaukee M18 one key tools
>
>
>
> Most battery powered ‘torque’ settings change as the batteries are
> depleted.
>
> Do they say that this is not so for this model?
>
>
>
> -Glenn
>
>
>
> *From:* RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Kirk Herander
> *Sent:* Monday, November 28, 2016 12:39 PM
> *To:* 'RE-wrenches'
> *Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] Milwaukee M18 one key tools
>
>
>
> As I understand it, there are 4 buttons on the drill, each can be
> programmed to one of 10 torque levels through the app. And yes the torque
> levels are 1 – 10, not torque values. For example, tighten an L-foot to a
> scrap piece of rail at each torque increment, measuring after with a torque
> wrench, til you have the values of each increment. Then program the drill
> buttons to your most often spec’ed torques, and you’re done. Just press one
> of the four buttons on the drill to get the required torque. The values are
> set in the drill even with battery removed.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiX8HPqXitQ
>
> Here’s one of the videos of how the app works. Anyway I need a new M18
> driver, so I just ordered one. I will see about practicality in our trade.
>
>
>
> *From:* RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org
> ] *On Behalf Of *Dan Fink
> *Sent:* Sunday, November 27, 2016 11:51 AM
> *To:* RE-wrenches
> *Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] Milwaukee M18 one key tools
>
>
>
> I thought the idea of being to preset torque RPM settings from the app was
> good, my reasoning being have one impact set (by the boss, behind password)
> for installing racking lags, another set more delicately for mounting
> equipment, etc, but watched one of their videos and the torque is not
> calibrated to in-lbs, it's like a range of 1-4, and the app lets you do a
> 2-1/2 for example. The actual torque is up to you to figure out.so you
> still need calibrated hand torque wrenches.
>
> Not enough to make me switch brands (that would be super expensive)and
> I'm not sure I like the idea of adding complicated electron

Re: [RE-wrenches] Milwaukee M18 one key tools

[Glenn Burt]

For fasteners that are used often and in volume, you can buy pre-set torque 
tools that make compliance and repetitive securing a no-brainer.

Glenn

-Original Message-
From: "Ray Walters" 
Sent: ‎11/‎30/‎2016 13:05
To: "RE-wrenches" 
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Milwaukee M18 one key tools

I get the torque wrench out occasionally to check, especially if using 
some new hardware with different specs.  However on a daily basis, I 
generally do it by feel.  I have come across an amazing number of over 
and under torqued connections over the years, though, so it really is an 
issue for all of us to watch out for.  Even though I'm not toting a 
torque wrench up on the roof, I still hand tighten the final half turn 
on all connections, to make sure they are right.  I don't run a big crew 
anymore, but I could see the advantage in having pre-programmed settings 
for the new people.

R.Ray Walters
CTO, Solarray, Inc
Nabcep Certified PV Installer,
Licensed Master Electrician
Solar Design Engineer
303 505-8760

On 11/29/2016 2:01 PM, Kirk Herander wrote:
>
> My strategy is to have several spares in a multi-bay charger, and 
> change out when the battery reads 50% (2 bars). Subjective, I know, 
> but we are talking in-lbs when tightening rack hardware, not ft-lbs. 
> Anyway, I’ll report back to the list once I get my programmable M18’s 
> and try it out.
>
> And I’m curious, how many of us actually use a torque wrench on the 
> job with any regularity, be it rack or electrical connections? I have 
> never seen an everyday electrician use one, even on serious industrial 
> work in a tightly controlled jobsite. Every lug, connector, fastener 
> has a recommended torque. I think we all have seen the damage heat 
> causes as the result of a loose connection.
>
> The last commercial system I did, a third party was hired to audit the 
> PV work. It was on the checklist to spot check torques. I have been 
> spot-checking torque ever since.
>
> *From:*RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] 
> *On Behalf Of *Ray Walters
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 29, 2016 1:14 PM
> *To:* RE-wrenches
> *Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] Milwaukee M18 one key tools
>
> I own the M18, and the power varies noticeably with discharge, and 
> also with higher amp hour packs.  My drill screams with a 5 AH pack!  
> I agree its less of a drop with discharge than with lead acid or 
> NiiCad, but its still enough to make torque settings inaccurate.
>
>
> R.Ray Walters
> CTO, Solarray, Inc
> Nabcep Certified PV Installer,
> Licensed Master Electrician
> Solar Design Engineer
> 303 505-8760
>
> On 11/29/2016 10:32 AM, Kirk Herander wrote:
>
> M18 lithium batteries deliver full power until they are almost
> fully discharged. I doubt it’s an issue.
>
> *From:*RE-wrenches
> [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] *On Behalf Of
> *Glenn Burt
> *Sent:* Monday, November 28, 2016 8:59 PM
> *To:* 'RE-wrenches'
> *Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] Milwaukee M18 one key tools
>
> Most battery powered ‘torque’ settings change as the batteries are
> depleted.
>
> Do they say that this is not so for this model?
>
> -Glenn
>
> *From:*RE-wrenches
> [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org]
>     <mailto:[mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org]> *On
> Behalf Of *Kirk Herander
> *Sent:* Monday, November 28, 2016 12:39 PM
> *To:* 'RE-wrenches'
> *Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] Milwaukee M18 one key tools
>
> As I understand it, there are 4 buttons on the drill, each can be
> programmed to one of 10 torque levels through the app. And yes the
> torque levels are 1 – 10, not torque values. For example, tighten
> an L-foot to a scrap piece of rail at each torque increment,
> measuring after with a torque wrench, til you have the values of
> each increment. Then program the drill buttons to your most often
> spec’ed torques, and you’re done. Just press one of the four
> buttons on the drill to get the required torque. The values are
> set in the drill even with battery removed.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiX8HPqXitQ
>
> Here’s one of the videos of how the app works. Anyway I need a new
> M18 driver, so I just ordered one. I will see about practicality
> in our trade.
>
> *From:*RE-wrenches
> [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] *On Behalf Of
> *Dan Fink
> *Sent:* Sunday, November 27, 2016 11:51 AM
> *To:* RE-wrenches
> *Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] Milwaukee M18 one key tools
>
> I thought the idea of being to preset torque RPM settings from th

Re: [RE-wrenches] Milwaukee M18 one key tools

[Ray Walters]

I get the torque wrench out occasionally to check, especially if using 
some new hardware with different specs.  However on a daily basis, I 
generally do it by feel.  I have come across an amazing number of over 
and under torqued connections over the years, though, so it really is an 
issue for all of us to watch out for.  Even though I'm not toting a 
torque wrench up on the roof, I still hand tighten the final half turn 
on all connections, to make sure they are right.  I don't run a big crew 
anymore, but I could see the advantage in having pre-programmed settings 
for the new people.


R.Ray Walters
CTO, Solarray, Inc
Nabcep Certified PV Installer,
Licensed Master Electrician
Solar Design Engineer
303 505-8760

On 11/29/2016 2:01 PM, Kirk Herander wrote:


My strategy is to have several spares in a multi-bay charger, and 
change out when the battery reads 50% (2 bars). Subjective, I know, 
but we are talking in-lbs when tightening rack hardware, not ft-lbs. 
Anyway, I’ll report back to the list once I get my programmable M18’s 
and try it out.


And I’m curious, how many of us actually use a torque wrench on the 
job with any regularity, be it rack or electrical connections? I have 
never seen an everyday electrician use one, even on serious industrial 
work in a tightly controlled jobsite. Every lug, connector, fastener 
has a recommended torque. I think we all have seen the damage heat 
causes as the result of a loose connection.


The last commercial system I did, a third party was hired to audit the 
PV work. It was on the checklist to spot check torques. I have been 
spot-checking torque ever since.


*From:*RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] 
*On Behalf Of *Ray Walters

*Sent:* Tuesday, November 29, 2016 1:14 PM
*To:* RE-wrenches
*Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] Milwaukee M18 one key tools

I own the M18, and the power varies noticeably with discharge, and 
also with higher amp hour packs.  My drill screams with a 5 AH pack!  
I agree its less of a drop with discharge than with lead acid or 
NiiCad, but its still enough to make torque settings inaccurate.



R.Ray Walters
CTO, Solarray, Inc
Nabcep Certified PV Installer,
Licensed Master Electrician
Solar Design Engineer
303 505-8760

On 11/29/2016 10:32 AM, Kirk Herander wrote:

M18 lithium batteries deliver full power until they are almost
fully discharged. I doubt it’s an issue.

*From:*RE-wrenches
[mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] *On Behalf Of
*Glenn Burt
*Sent:* Monday, November 28, 2016 8:59 PM
*To:* 'RE-wrenches'
    *Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] Milwaukee M18 one key tools

Most battery powered ‘torque’ settings change as the batteries are
depleted.

Do they say that this is not so for this model?

-Glenn

*From:*RE-wrenches
[mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org]
<mailto:[mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org]> *On
Behalf Of *Kirk Herander
*Sent:* Monday, November 28, 2016 12:39 PM
*To:* 'RE-wrenches'
*Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] Milwaukee M18 one key tools

As I understand it, there are 4 buttons on the drill, each can be
programmed to one of 10 torque levels through the app. And yes the
torque levels are 1 – 10, not torque values. For example, tighten
an L-foot to a scrap piece of rail at each torque increment,
measuring after with a torque wrench, til you have the values of
each increment. Then program the drill buttons to your most often
spec’ed torques, and you’re done. Just press one of the four
buttons on the drill to get the required torque. The values are
set in the drill even with battery removed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiX8HPqXitQ

Here’s one of the videos of how the app works. Anyway I need a new
M18 driver, so I just ordered one. I will see about practicality
in our trade.

*From:*RE-wrenches
[mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] *On Behalf Of
*Dan Fink
*Sent:* Sunday, November 27, 2016 11:51 AM
    *To:* RE-wrenches
*Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] Milwaukee M18 one key tools

I thought the idea of being to preset torque RPM settings from the
app was good, my reasoning being have one impact set (by the boss,
behind password) for installing racking lags, another set more
delicately for mounting equipment, etc, but watched one of their
videos and the torque is not calibrated to in-lbs, it's like a
range of 1-4, and the app lets you do a 2-1/2 for example. The
actual torque is up to you to figure out.so you still need
calibrated hand torque wrenches.

Not enough to make me switch brands (that would be super
expensive)and I'm not sure I like the idea of adding
complicated electronics to a really simple, reliable tool.


Dan Fink

Adjunct Professor of Solar Energy Technology, Ecotech Institute

Re: [RE-wrenches] Milwaukee M18 one key tools

[Kirk Herander]

My strategy is to have several spares in a multi-bay charger, and change out
when the battery reads 50% (2 bars). Subjective, I know, but we are talking
in-lbs when tightening rack hardware, not ft-lbs. Anyway, I'll report back
to the list once I get my programmable M18's and try it out.

 

And I'm curious, how many of us actually use a torque wrench on the job with
any regularity, be it rack or electrical connections? I have never seen an
everyday electrician use one, even on serious industrial work in a tightly
controlled jobsite. Every lug, connector, fastener has a recommended torque.
I think we all have seen the damage heat causes as the result of a loose
connection.

The last commercial system I did, a third party was hired to audit the PV
work. It was on the checklist to spot check torques. I have been
spot-checking torque ever since.

 

From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On
Behalf Of Ray Walters
Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2016 1:14 PM
To: RE-wrenches
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Milwaukee M18 one key tools

 

I own the M18, and the power varies noticeably with discharge, and also with
higher amp hour packs.  My drill screams with a 5 AH pack!  I agree its less
of a drop with discharge than with lead acid or NiiCad, but its still enough
to make torque settings inaccurate.




R.Ray Walters
CTO, Solarray, Inc
Nabcep Certified PV Installer, 
Licensed Master Electrician
Solar Design Engineer
303 505-8760

On 11/29/2016 10:32 AM, Kirk Herander wrote:

M18 lithium batteries deliver full power until they are almost fully
discharged. I doubt it's an issue.

 

From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On
Behalf Of Glenn Burt
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2016 8:59 PM
To: 'RE-wrenches'
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Milwaukee M18 one key tools

 

Most battery powered 'torque' settings change as the batteries are depleted.


Do they say that this is not so for this model?

 

-Glenn

 

From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On
Behalf Of Kirk Herander
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2016 12:39 PM
To: 'RE-wrenches'
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Milwaukee M18 one key tools

 

As I understand it, there are 4 buttons on the drill, each can be programmed
to one of 10 torque levels through the app. And yes the torque levels are 1
- 10, not torque values. For example, tighten an L-foot to a scrap piece of
rail at each torque increment, measuring after with a torque wrench, til you
have the values of each increment. Then program the drill buttons to your
most often spec'ed torques, and you're done. Just press one of the four
buttons on the drill to get the required torque. The values are set in the
drill even with battery removed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiX8HPqXitQ

Here's one of the videos of how the app works. Anyway I need a new M18
driver, so I just ordered one. I will see about practicality in our trade.

 

From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On
Behalf Of Dan Fink
Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2016 11:51 AM
To: RE-wrenches
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Milwaukee M18 one key tools

 

I thought the idea of being to preset torque RPM settings from the app was
good, my reasoning being have one impact set (by the boss, behind password)
for installing racking lags, another set more delicately for mounting
equipment, etc, but watched one of their videos and the torque is not
calibrated to in-lbs, it's like a range of 1-4, and the app lets you do a
2-1/2 for example. The actual torque is up to you to figure out.so you
still need calibrated hand torque wrenches.

Not enough to make me switch brands (that would be super expensive)and
I'm not sure I like the idea of adding complicated electronics to a really
simple, reliable tool. 




Dan Fink

Adjunct Professor of Solar Energy Technology, Ecotech Institute

IREC Certified InstructorT for: 

~ PV Installation Professional

~ Small Wind Installer

Executive Director, Buckville Energy

NABCEP Registered Continuing Education ProvidersT
  970.672.4342


 

 

On Sun, Nov 27, 2016 at 8:17 AM, William Dorsett 
wrote:

Pardon my ignorance but what would be the purpose of a smart phone app for a
cordless drill? It's not like we'd be using it hands-free anyway. You can
imagine being up on a ladder,  drilling with one hand and adjusting at the
same time with the smart phone? Sounds like a bad mismatch.

 

Bill Dorsett

Manhattan, KS

 

From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On
Behalf Of Christopher Warfel
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2016 10:12 AM
To: RE-wrenches
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Milwaukee M18 one key tools

 

Don't tell me this, I just bought Dewalt tools. ahhh

 

On 11/22/2016 11:21 AM, Kirk Herander wrote:

Hello,

Anyone out there invested in these tools yet? Looks interesting. Amongst
other things, you can custom 

Re: [RE-wrenches] Milwaukee M18 one key tools

[Ray Walters]

I own the M18, and the power varies noticeably with discharge, and also 
with higher amp hour packs.  My drill screams with a 5 AH pack!  I agree 
its less of a drop with discharge than with lead acid or NiiCad, but its 
still enough to make torque settings inaccurate.


R.Ray Walters
CTO, Solarray, Inc
Nabcep Certified PV Installer,
Licensed Master Electrician
Solar Design Engineer
303 505-8760

On 11/29/2016 10:32 AM, Kirk Herander wrote:


M18 lithium batteries deliver full power until they are almost fully 
discharged. I doubt it’s an issue.


*From:*RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] 
*On Behalf Of *Glenn Burt

*Sent:* Monday, November 28, 2016 8:59 PM
*To:* 'RE-wrenches'
*Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] Milwaukee M18 one key tools

Most battery powered ‘torque’ settings change as the batteries are 
depleted.


Do they say that this is not so for this model?

-Glenn

*From:*RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] 
<mailto:[mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org]> *On Behalf 
Of *Kirk Herander

*Sent:* Monday, November 28, 2016 12:39 PM
*To:* 'RE-wrenches'
*Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] Milwaukee M18 one key tools

As I understand it, there are 4 buttons on the drill, each can be 
programmed to one of 10 torque levels through the app. And yes the 
torque levels are 1 – 10, not torque values. For example, tighten an 
L-foot to a scrap piece of rail at each torque increment, measuring 
after with a torque wrench, til you have the values of each increment. 
Then program the drill buttons to your most often spec’ed torques, and 
you’re done. Just press one of the four buttons on the drill to get 
the required torque. The values are set in the drill even with battery 
removed.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiX8HPqXitQ

Here’s one of the videos of how the app works. Anyway I need a new M18 
driver, so I just ordered one. I will see about practicality in our trade.


*From:*RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] 
*On Behalf Of *Dan Fink

*Sent:* Sunday, November 27, 2016 11:51 AM
*To:* RE-wrenches
*Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] Milwaukee M18 one key tools

I thought the idea of being to preset torque RPM settings from the app 
was good, my reasoning being have one impact set (by the boss, behind 
password) for installing racking lags, another set more delicately for 
mounting equipment, etc, but watched one of their videos and the 
torque is not calibrated to in-lbs, it's like a range of 1-4, and the 
app lets you do a 2-1/2 for example. The actual torque is up to you to 
figure out.so you still need calibrated hand torque wrenches.


Not enough to make me switch brands (that would be super 
expensive)and I'm not sure I like the idea of adding complicated 
electronics to a really simple, reliable tool.



Dan Fink

Adjunct Professor of Solar Energy Technology, Ecotech Institute

IREC Certified Instructor™ for:

~ PV Installation Professional

~ Small Wind Installer

Executive Director, Buckville Energy

NABCEP Registered Continuing Education Providers™
970.672.4342 


On Sun, Nov 27, 2016 at 8:17 AM, William Dorsett 
mailto:wmdors...@sbcglobal.net>> wrote:


Pardon my ignorance but what would be the purpose of a smart phone app 
for a cordless drill? It’s not like we’d be using it hands-free 
anyway. You can imagine being up on a ladder,  drilling with one hand 
and adjusting at the same time with the smart phone? Sounds like a bad 
mismatch.


Bill Dorsett

Manhattan, KS

*From:*RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org 
<mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org>] *On Behalf Of 
*Christopher Warfel

*Sent:* Saturday, November 26, 2016 10:12 AM
*To:* RE-wrenches
*Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] Milwaukee M18 one key tools

Don't tell me this, I just bought Dewalt tools. ahhh

On 11/22/2016 11:21 AM, Kirk Herander wrote:

Hello,

Anyone out there invested in these tools yet? Looks interesting.
Amongst other things, you can custom program the cordless drill to
various speeds and torques using a smart phone app.

*Kirk Herander*

*Owner|Principal, VT Solar, LLC *

*/Celebrating our 25^th Anniversary 1991-2016/*

*www.vermontsolarnow.com <http://www.vermontsolarnow.com>*

dba Vermont Solar Engineering

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Re: [RE-wrenches] Milwaukee M18 one key tools

[Kirk Herander]

M18 lithium batteries deliver full power until they are almost fully 
discharged. I doubt it’s an issue.

 

From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf 
Of Glenn Burt
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2016 8:59 PM
To: 'RE-wrenches'
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Milwaukee M18 one key tools

 

Most battery powered ‘torque’ settings change as the batteries are depleted. 

Do they say that this is not so for this model?

 

-Glenn

 

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Of Kirk Herander
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2016 12:39 PM
To: 'RE-wrenches'
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Milwaukee M18 one key tools

 

As I understand it, there are 4 buttons on the drill, each can be programmed to 
one of 10 torque levels through the app. And yes the torque levels are 1 – 10, 
not torque values. For example, tighten an L-foot to a scrap piece of rail at 
each torque increment, measuring after with a torque wrench, til you have the 
values of each increment. Then program the drill buttons to your most often 
spec’ed torques, and you’re done. Just press one of the four buttons on the 
drill to get the required torque. The values are set in the drill even with 
battery removed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiX8HPqXitQ

Here’s one of the videos of how the app works. Anyway I need a new M18 driver, 
so I just ordered one. I will see about practicality in our trade.

 

From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf 
Of Dan Fink
Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2016 11:51 AM
To: RE-wrenches
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Milwaukee M18 one key tools

 

I thought the idea of being to preset torque RPM settings from the app was 
good, my reasoning being have one impact set (by the boss, behind password) for 
installing racking lags, another set more delicately for mounting equipment, 
etc, but watched one of their videos and the torque is not calibrated to 
in-lbs, it's like a range of 1-4, and the app lets you do a 2-1/2 for example. 
The actual torque is up to you to figure out.so you still need calibrated 
hand torque wrenches.

Not enough to make me switch brands (that would be super expensive)and I'm 
not sure I like the idea of adding complicated electronics to a really simple, 
reliable tool. 




Dan Fink

Adjunct Professor of Solar Energy Technology, Ecotech Institute

IREC Certified Instructor™ for: 

~ PV Installation Professional

~ Small Wind Installer

Executive Director, Buckville Energy

NABCEP Registered Continuing Education Providers™
  970.672.4342


 

 

On Sun, Nov 27, 2016 at 8:17 AM, William Dorsett  
wrote:

Pardon my ignorance but what would be the purpose of a smart phone app for a 
cordless drill? It’s not like we’d be using it hands-free anyway. You can 
imagine being up on a ladder,  drilling with one hand and adjusting at the same 
time with the smart phone? Sounds like a bad mismatch.

 

Bill Dorsett

Manhattan, KS

 

From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf 
Of Christopher Warfel
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2016 10:12 AM
To: RE-wrenches
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Milwaukee M18 one key tools

 

Don't tell me this, I just bought Dewalt tools. ahhh

 

On 11/22/2016 11:21 AM, Kirk Herander wrote:

Hello,

Anyone out there invested in these tools yet? Looks interesting. Amongst other 
things, you can custom program the cordless drill to various speeds and torques 
using a smart phone app.

 

Kirk Herander

Owner|Principal, VT Solar, LLC 

Celebrating our 25th Anniversary 1991-2016

www.vermontsolarnow.com

dba Vermont Solar Engineering

NABCEPTM  2003 Inaugural Certificant

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Re: [RE-wrenches] Milwaukee M18 one key tools

[Ray Walters]

I believe that the reason they don't list actual torque values for drill 
settings is that they can vary quite a bit depending on the SOC of the 
battery, temperature, drill age, etc.
If its a critical torque application, I would not depend on the drill 
settings, but instead do a final tightening with a calibrated torque wrench.
BTW, I have several of the M18 tools (not the programmable) and they've 
been pretty good.  Except the time in Haiti that I had to take the drill 
apart to clean the dust out of the switch.

Its all electronic now, no simple switches these days.

R.Ray Walters
CTO, Solarray, Inc
Nabcep Certified PV Installer,
Licensed Master Electrician
Solar Design Engineer
303 505-8760

On 11/28/2016 10:38 AM, Kirk Herander wrote:


As I understand it, there are 4 buttons on the drill, each can be 
programmed to one of 10 torque levels through the app. And yes the 
torque levels are 1 – 10, not torque values. For example, tighten an 
L-foot to a scrap piece of rail at each torque increment, measuring 
after with a torque wrench, til you have the values of each increment. 
Then program the drill buttons to your most often spec’ed torques, and 
you’re done. Just press one of the four buttons on the drill to get 
the required torque. The values are set in the drill even with battery 
removed.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiX8HPqXitQ

Here’s one of the videos of how the app works. Anyway I need a new M18 
driver, so I just ordered one. I will see about practicality in our trade.


*From:*RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] 
*On Behalf Of *Dan Fink

*Sent:* Sunday, November 27, 2016 11:51 AM
*To:* RE-wrenches
*Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] Milwaukee M18 one key tools

I thought the idea of being to preset torque RPM settings from the app 
was good, my reasoning being have one impact set (by the boss, behind 
password) for installing racking lags, another set more delicately for 
mounting equipment, etc, but watched one of their videos and the 
torque is not calibrated to in-lbs, it's like a range of 1-4, and the 
app lets you do a 2-1/2 for example. The actual torque is up to you to 
figure out.so you still need calibrated hand torque wrenches.


Not enough to make me switch brands (that would be super 
expensive)and I'm not sure I like the idea of adding complicated 
electronics to a really simple, reliable tool.



Dan Fink

Adjunct Professor of Solar Energy Technology, Ecotech Institute

IREC Certified Instructor™ for:

~ PV Installation Professional

~ Small Wind Installer

Executive Director, Buckville Energy

NABCEP Registered Continuing Education Providers™
970.672.4342 


On Sun, Nov 27, 2016 at 8:17 AM, William Dorsett 
mailto:wmdors...@sbcglobal.net>> wrote:


Pardon my ignorance but what would be the purpose of a smart phone app 
for a cordless drill? It’s not like we’d be using it hands-free 
anyway. You can imagine being up on a ladder,  drilling with one hand 
and adjusting at the same time with the smart phone? Sounds like a bad 
mismatch.


Bill Dorsett

Manhattan, KS

*From:*RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org 
<mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org>] *On Behalf Of 
*Christopher Warfel

*Sent:* Saturday, November 26, 2016 10:12 AM
*To:* RE-wrenches
*Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] Milwaukee M18 one key tools

Don't tell me this, I just bought Dewalt tools. ahhh

On 11/22/2016 11:21 AM, Kirk Herander wrote:

Hello,

Anyone out there invested in these tools yet? Looks interesting.
Amongst other things, you can custom program the cordless drill to
various speeds and torques using a smart phone app.

*Kirk Herander*

*Owner|Principal, VT Solar, LLC *

*/Celebrating our 25^th Anniversary 1991-2016/*

*www.vermontsolarnow.com <http://www.vermontsolarnow.com>*

dba Vermont Solar Engineering

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Re: [RE-wrenches] Milwaukee M18 one key tools

[Glenn Burt]

Most battery powered ‘torque’ settings change as the batteries are depleted. 

Do they say that this is not so for this model?

 

-Glenn

 

From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf 
Of Kirk Herander
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2016 12:39 PM
To: 'RE-wrenches'
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Milwaukee M18 one key tools

 

As I understand it, there are 4 buttons on the drill, each can be programmed to 
one of 10 torque levels through the app. And yes the torque levels are 1 – 10, 
not torque values. For example, tighten an L-foot to a scrap piece of rail at 
each torque increment, measuring after with a torque wrench, til you have the 
values of each increment. Then program the drill buttons to your most often 
spec’ed torques, and you’re done. Just press one of the four buttons on the 
drill to get the required torque. The values are set in the drill even with 
battery removed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiX8HPqXitQ

Here’s one of the videos of how the app works. Anyway I need a new M18 driver, 
so I just ordered one. I will see about practicality in our trade.

 

From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf 
Of Dan Fink
Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2016 11:51 AM
To: RE-wrenches
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Milwaukee M18 one key tools

 

I thought the idea of being to preset torque RPM settings from the app was 
good, my reasoning being have one impact set (by the boss, behind password) for 
installing racking lags, another set more delicately for mounting equipment, 
etc, but watched one of their videos and the torque is not calibrated to 
in-lbs, it's like a range of 1-4, and the app lets you do a 2-1/2 for example. 
The actual torque is up to you to figure out.so you still need calibrated 
hand torque wrenches.

Not enough to make me switch brands (that would be super expensive)and I'm 
not sure I like the idea of adding complicated electronics to a really simple, 
reliable tool. 




Dan Fink

Adjunct Professor of Solar Energy Technology, Ecotech Institute

IREC Certified Instructor™ for: 

~ PV Installation Professional

~ Small Wind Installer

Executive Director, Buckville Energy

NABCEP Registered Continuing Education Providers™
  970.672.4342


 

 

On Sun, Nov 27, 2016 at 8:17 AM, William Dorsett  
wrote:

Pardon my ignorance but what would be the purpose of a smart phone app for a 
cordless drill? It’s not like we’d be using it hands-free anyway. You can 
imagine being up on a ladder,  drilling with one hand and adjusting at the same 
time with the smart phone? Sounds like a bad mismatch.

 

Bill Dorsett

Manhattan, KS

 

From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf 
Of Christopher Warfel
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2016 10:12 AM
To: RE-wrenches
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Milwaukee M18 one key tools

 

Don't tell me this, I just bought Dewalt tools. ahhh

 

On 11/22/2016 11:21 AM, Kirk Herander wrote:

Hello,

Anyone out there invested in these tools yet? Looks interesting. Amongst other 
things, you can custom program the cordless drill to various speeds and torques 
using a smart phone app.

 

Kirk Herander

Owner|Principal, VT Solar, LLC 

Celebrating our 25th Anniversary 1991-2016

www.vermontsolarnow.com

dba Vermont Solar Engineering

NABCEPTM  2003 Inaugural Certificant

VT RE Incentive Program Partner

802.863.1202

 

 

 

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Re: [RE-wrenches] Milwaukee M18 one key tools

[Kirk Herander]

As I understand it, there are 4 buttons on the drill, each can be programmed to 
one of 10 torque levels through the app. And yes the torque levels are 1 – 10, 
not torque values. For example, tighten an L-foot to a scrap piece of rail at 
each torque increment, measuring after with a torque wrench, til you have the 
values of each increment. Then program the drill buttons to your most often 
spec’ed torques, and you’re done. Just press one of the four buttons on the 
drill to get the required torque. The values are set in the drill even with 
battery removed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiX8HPqXitQ

Here’s one of the videos of how the app works. Anyway I need a new M18 driver, 
so I just ordered one. I will see about practicality in our trade.

 

From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf 
Of Dan Fink
Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2016 11:51 AM
To: RE-wrenches
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Milwaukee M18 one key tools

 

I thought the idea of being to preset torque RPM settings from the app was 
good, my reasoning being have one impact set (by the boss, behind password) for 
installing racking lags, another set more delicately for mounting equipment, 
etc, but watched one of their videos and the torque is not calibrated to 
in-lbs, it's like a range of 1-4, and the app lets you do a 2-1/2 for example. 
The actual torque is up to you to figure out.so you still need calibrated 
hand torque wrenches.

Not enough to make me switch brands (that would be super expensive)and I'm 
not sure I like the idea of adding complicated electronics to a really simple, 
reliable tool. 




Dan Fink

Adjunct Professor of Solar Energy Technology, Ecotech Institute

IREC Certified Instructor™ for: 

~ PV Installation Professional

~ Small Wind Installer

Executive Director, Buckville Energy

NABCEP Registered Continuing Education Providers™
  970.672.4342


 

 

On Sun, Nov 27, 2016 at 8:17 AM, William Dorsett  
wrote:

Pardon my ignorance but what would be the purpose of a smart phone app for a 
cordless drill? It’s not like we’d be using it hands-free anyway. You can 
imagine being up on a ladder,  drilling with one hand and adjusting at the same 
time with the smart phone? Sounds like a bad mismatch.

 

Bill Dorsett

Manhattan, KS

 

From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf 
Of Christopher Warfel
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2016 10:12 AM
To: RE-wrenches
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Milwaukee M18 one key tools

 

Don't tell me this, I just bought Dewalt tools. ahhh

 

On 11/22/2016 11:21 AM, Kirk Herander wrote:

Hello,

Anyone out there invested in these tools yet? Looks interesting. Amongst other 
things, you can custom program the cordless drill to various speeds and torques 
using a smart phone app.

 

Kirk Herander

Owner|Principal, VT Solar, LLC 

Celebrating our 25th Anniversary 1991-2016

www.vermontsolarnow.com

dba Vermont Solar Engineering

NABCEPTM  2003 Inaugural Certificant

VT RE Incentive Program Partner

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Re: [RE-wrenches] Milwaukee M18 one key tools

[Jason Szumlanski]

Yeah, the Flexvolt system even has 120V tools. Unless you have some serious
cutting or boring tasks, I can’t imagine needing these in my line of work.
I’ve found the Milwaukee 12V series is surprisingly good for many tasks and
super lightweight (nice on a roof). They even make a capable 12V hammer
drill, which is hard to find.

Jason



On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 9:59 AM, August Goers  wrote:

> I was at Home Depot a week or so ago and a sales rep was pointing me to
> DeWalts new 60v system!
>
>
>
> http://www.dewalt.com/products/power-tools/shop-by-
> cordless-platform/60v-120v
>
>
>
> Luckily, it is backwards compatible with the 20v stuff. Our crews are
> still using the DeWalt 18v system but sooner or later we’ll need to change
> over.
>
>
>
> August
>
>
>
> *From:* RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Christopher Warfel
> *Sent:* Saturday, November 26, 2016 8:12 AM
> *To:* RE-wrenches
> *Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] Milwaukee M18 one key tools
>
>
>
> Don't tell me this, I just bought Dewalt tools. ahhh
>
>
>
> On 11/22/2016 11:21 AM, Kirk Herander wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> Anyone out there invested in these tools yet? Looks interesting. Amongst
> other things, you can custom program the cordless drill to various speeds
> and torques using a smart phone app.
>
>
>
> *Kirk Herander*
>
> *Owner|Principal, VT Solar, LLC *
>
> *Celebrating our 25th Anniversary 1991-2016*
>
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>
> dba Vermont Solar Engineering
>
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Milwaukee M18 one key tools

[August Goers]

I was at Home Depot a week or so ago and a sales rep was pointing me to
DeWalts new 60v system!



http://www.dewalt.com/products/power-tools/shop-by-cordless-platform/60v-120v



Luckily, it is backwards compatible with the 20v stuff. Our crews are still
using the DeWalt 18v system but sooner or later we’ll need to change over.



August



*From:* RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] *On
Behalf Of *Christopher Warfel
*Sent:* Saturday, November 26, 2016 8:12 AM
*To:* RE-wrenches
*Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] Milwaukee M18 one key tools



Don't tell me this, I just bought Dewalt tools. ahhh



On 11/22/2016 11:21 AM, Kirk Herander wrote:

Hello,

Anyone out there invested in these tools yet? Looks interesting. Amongst
other things, you can custom program the cordless drill to various speeds
and torques using a smart phone app.



*Kirk Herander*

*Owner|Principal, VT Solar, LLC *

*Celebrating our 25th Anniversary 1991-2016*

*www.vermontsolarnow.com *

dba Vermont Solar Engineering

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Re: [RE-wrenches] Milwaukee M18 one key tools

[Jason Szumlanski]

Seems like an unnecessary gimmick to me. That said, I switched to Milwaukee
M12 for light tasks and M18 for heavy use and I’m very happy. They even
make combo M12/M18 multi-charger. The M12 are super light and the M18 are
very good. They also have a better selection for oddball tools. Perhaps the
best feature is that I’ve been buying knock-off batteries online for cut
rate prices with excellent results.



On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 11:21 AM, Kirk Herander  wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Anyone out there invested in these tools yet? Looks interesting. Amongst
> other things, you can custom program the cordless drill to various speeds
> and torques using a smart phone app.
>
>
>
> *Kirk Herander*
>
> *Owner|Principal, VT Solar, LLC *
>
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Milwaukee M18 one key tools

[gary easton]

How can you torque a lag into wood?

On Sunday, November 27, 2016, Dan Fink  wrote:

> I thought the idea of being to preset torque RPM settings from the app was
> good, my reasoning being have one impact set (by the boss, behind password)
> for installing racking lags, another set more delicately for mounting
> equipment, etc, but watched one of their videos and the torque is not
> calibrated to in-lbs, it's like a range of 1-4, and the app lets you do a
> 2-1/2 for example. The actual torque is up to you to figure out.so you
> still need calibrated hand torque wrenches.
> Not enough to make me switch brands (that would be super expensive)and
> I'm not sure I like the idea of adding complicated electronics to a really
> simple, reliable tool.
>
> Dan Fink
> Adjunct Professor of Solar Energy Technology, Ecotech Institute
> IREC Certified Instructor™ for:
> ~ PV Installation Professional
> ~ Small Wind Installer
> Executive Director, Buckville Energy
> NABCEP Registered Continuing Education Providers™
> 970.672.4342
>
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 27, 2016 at 8:17 AM, William Dorsett  > wrote:
>
>> Pardon my ignorance but what would be the purpose of a smart phone app
>> for a cordless drill? It’s not like we’d be using it hands-free anyway. You
>> can imagine being up on a ladder,  drilling with one hand and adjusting at
>> the same time with the smart phone? Sounds like a bad mismatch.
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill Dorsett
>>
>> Manhattan, KS
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org
>> ]
>> *On Behalf Of *Christopher Warfel
>> *Sent:* Saturday, November 26, 2016 10:12 AM
>> *To:* RE-wrenches
>> *Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] Milwaukee M18 one key tools
>>
>>
>>
>> Don't tell me this, I just bought Dewalt tools. ahhh
>>
>>
>>
>> On 11/22/2016 11:21 AM, Kirk Herander wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> Anyone out there invested in these tools yet? Looks interesting. Amongst
>> other things, you can custom program the cordless drill to various speeds
>> and torques using a smart phone app.
>>
>>
>>
>> *Kirk Herander*
>>
>> *Owner|Principal, VT Solar, LLC *
>>
>> *Celebrating our 25th Anniversary 1991-2016*
>>
>> *www.vermontsolarnow.com <http://www.vermontsolarnow.com>*
>>
>> dba Vermont Solar Engineering
>>
>> NABCEPTM  2003 Inaugural Certificant
>>
>> VT RE Incentive Program Partner
>>
>> 802.863.1202
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Milwaukee M18 one key tools

[Dan Fink]

I thought the idea of being to preset torque RPM settings from the app was
good, my reasoning being have one impact set (by the boss, behind password)
for installing racking lags, another set more delicately for mounting
equipment, etc, but watched one of their videos and the torque is not
calibrated to in-lbs, it's like a range of 1-4, and the app lets you do a
2-1/2 for example. The actual torque is up to you to figure out.so you
still need calibrated hand torque wrenches.
Not enough to make me switch brands (that would be super expensive)and
I'm not sure I like the idea of adding complicated electronics to a really
simple, reliable tool.

Dan Fink
Adjunct Professor of Solar Energy Technology, Ecotech Institute
IREC Certified Instructor™ for:
~ PV Installation Professional
~ Small Wind Installer
Executive Director, Buckville Energy
NABCEP Registered Continuing Education Providers™
970.672.4342



On Sun, Nov 27, 2016 at 8:17 AM, William Dorsett 
wrote:

> Pardon my ignorance but what would be the purpose of a smart phone app for
> a cordless drill? It’s not like we’d be using it hands-free anyway. You can
> imagine being up on a ladder,  drilling with one hand and adjusting at the
> same time with the smart phone? Sounds like a bad mismatch.
>
>
>
> Bill Dorsett
>
> Manhattan, KS
>
>
>
> *From:* RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Christopher Warfel
> *Sent:* Saturday, November 26, 2016 10:12 AM
> *To:* RE-wrenches
> *Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] Milwaukee M18 one key tools
>
>
>
> Don't tell me this, I just bought Dewalt tools. ahhh
>
>
>
> On 11/22/2016 11:21 AM, Kirk Herander wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> Anyone out there invested in these tools yet? Looks interesting. Amongst
> other things, you can custom program the cordless drill to various speeds
> and torques using a smart phone app.
>
>
>
> *Kirk Herander*
>
> *Owner|Principal, VT Solar, LLC *
>
> *Celebrating our 25th Anniversary 1991-2016*
>
> *www.vermontsolarnow.com <http://www.vermontsolarnow.com>*
>
> dba Vermont Solar Engineering
>
> NABCEPTM  2003 Inaugural Certificant
>
> VT RE Incentive Program Partner
>
> 802.863.1202
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Milwaukee M18 one key tools

[William Dorsett]

Pardon my ignorance but what would be the purpose of a smart phone app for a
cordless drill? It's not like we'd be using it hands-free anyway. You can
imagine being up on a ladder,  drilling with one hand and adjusting at the
same time with the smart phone? Sounds like a bad mismatch.

 

Bill Dorsett

Manhattan, KS

 

From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On
Behalf Of Christopher Warfel
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2016 10:12 AM
To: RE-wrenches
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Milwaukee M18 one key tools

 

Don't tell me this, I just bought Dewalt tools. ahhh

 

On 11/22/2016 11:21 AM, Kirk Herander wrote:

Hello,

Anyone out there invested in these tools yet? Looks interesting. Amongst
other things, you can custom program the cordless drill to various speeds
and torques using a smart phone app.

 

Kirk Herander

Owner|Principal, VT Solar, LLC 

Celebrating our 25th Anniversary 1991-2016

www.vermontsolarnow.com

dba Vermont Solar Engineering

NABCEPTM  2003 Inaugural Certificant

VT RE Incentive Program Partner

802.863.1202

 

 






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Re: [RE-wrenches] Milwaukee M18 one key tools

[Christopher Warfel]

Don't tell me this, I just bought Dewalt tools. ahhh


On 11/22/2016 11:21 AM, Kirk Herander wrote:


Hello,

Anyone out there invested in these tools yet? Looks interesting. 
Amongst other things, you can custom program the cordless drill to 
various speeds and torques using a smart phone app.


*Kirk Herander*

*Owner|Principal, VT Solar, LLC *

*/Celebrating our 25^th Anniversary 1991-2016/*

*www.vermontsolarnow.com*

dba Vermont Solar Engineering

NABCEP^TM 2003 Inaugural Certificant

VT RE Incentive Program Partner

802.863.1202



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