Re: [RE-wrenches] Temporary Roof Anchors

2016-01-08 Thread Jason Szumlanski 
​You can also buy roofing granules by the 5 gallon bucket. Keep a few
colors in the warehouse and a baggie of each on the truck.​ Three colors
are close enough for just about every roof (gray, light brown, reddish
brown around here).

6x6 sheets of 28ga aluminum are very handy for this, and they cost next to
nothing.


Jason Szumlanski
Florida Solar Design Group



On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 12:39 PM, Benn Kilburn 
wrote:

> The aluminum flashing sounds great.
> I will fill the holes with sealant, re-insert the nails/screws and then
> cover all the screw heads with sealant and smooth it out.
> If I can scoop some clean aggregate out of the gutter then I spread it
> over the smoothed sealant and it blends in so you don't even see the
> sealant (which is black and barely noticeable from the ground anyway)
>
> I wish more homes around here used ridge vent caps. It would limit the
> number of roof vents spread out across the roof.
>
> Benn Kilburn
> SkyFire Energy Inc.
> 780-906-7807
>
>
> On Jan 8, 2016, at 9:02 AM, Dave Tedeyan  wrote:
>
> If the customer is very particular, we'll replace the shingle. But most of
> the time we just put in an aluminum flashing under the shingle.
> -Dave
>
>
> *--*
>
>
> *Dave Tedeyan*
> *Project Engineer*
>
> *Taitem Engineering, PC*
> 109 S. Albany Street, Ithaca, NY 14850
> Voice: (607) 277-1118 x121
> www.taitem.com
>
> On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 10:17 AM, Drake <
> drake.chamber...@redwoodalliance.org> wrote:
>
>> What method do you use to repair the shingles?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Drake
>>
>> At 09:59 AM 1/8/2016, you wrote:
>>
>> We use similar anchors.
>>
>> http://solutions.3m.com/wps/portal/3M/en_US/3M-PPE-Safety-Solutions/Personal-Protective-Equipment/Products/Product-Catalog/~/3M-Reusable-Roof-Anchorage-Device-4000-1-ea-case?N=5158341+8702288+3294529207+4294886062=rud
>>
>> Most shingle roofs we come across have a ridge cap, so we cannot put it
>> over the ridge.Â
>> We used to use RS-10 permanent anchors. They are fairly easy to install,
>> but we often have arrays going near the peak of the roof, so once modules
>> go on, the anchor gets covered up.Â
>> We just install the 3M ones on the opposite side of the roof, and then
>> patch the shingles when we are done.
>>
>> On a related note, does anyone have a good product to use on a
>> trapezoidal (agricultural) metal roof?
>> Currently we tie ropes to large trees and/or structural members on the
>> opposite side of the roof.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Dave
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *-- Dave Tedeyan*
>> Project Engineer
>>
>>
>> *Taitem Engineering, PC *109Â S. Albany Street, Ithaca, NY 14850
>> Voice:Â (607) 277-1118 x121 
>> www.taitem.com
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 10:53 AM, Will White < william.wh...@rgsenergy.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> We use the RA-35 on the link you had below.  They work really well
>> because they only take a few screws.
>>
>> Â
>>
>> From: RE-wrenches [ mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org
>> ] On Behalf Of Benn Kilburn
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2016 4:20 PM
>> To: RE-wrenches < re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org>
>> Subject: [RE-wrenches] Temporary Roof Anchors
>>
>> Â
>>
>> Wrenches,
>>
>> Of our residential installs, i would guess that at least 80% are done on
>> composite asphalt shingle roofs typically ranging from 13 to 33deg pitch.
>> The rest are made up of various metal roofs, cedar shake, rubber shingles,
>> concrete tile, etc...
>>
>> Obviously, we require roof anchors for fall protection.  Rarely do we
>> come across existing homes that have roof anchors already installed.
>>
>> I have typically been using these...
>> hinged roof anchor
>> 
>>
>> or these...
>> RA15-1/
>> 
>>
>> Preferably the RA15-1 since it can use screws (#12's) instead of nails
>> and only needs 8 screws compared to the 20 nails for the hinged anchor...
>> ***in order for it to be approved***
>>
>> Â
>>
>> ​What are you all using as temporary anchors specifically for asphalt
>> shingle roofs​???
>>
>> Do any of you prefer to install permanent roof anchors, now that you have
>> just installed a "serviceable" piece of equipment on the roof?  What do
>> you use?
>>
>> Benn
>>
>> Â
>>
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Temporary Roof Anchors

2016-01-08 Thread Dave Tedeyan 
We use similar anchors.
http://solutions.3m.com/wps/portal/3M/en_US/3M-PPE-Safety-Solutions/Personal-Protective-Equipment/Products/Product-Catalog/~/3M-Reusable-Roof-Anchorage-Device-4000-1-ea-case?N=5158341+8702288+3294529207+4294886062=rud

Most shingle roofs we come across have a ridge cap, so we cannot put it
over the ridge.
We used to use RS-10 permanent anchors. They are fairly easy to install,
but we often have arrays going near the peak of the roof, so once modules
go on, the anchor gets covered up.
We just install the 3M ones on the opposite side of the roof, and then
patch the shingles when we are done.

On a related note, does anyone have a good product to use on a trapezoidal
(agricultural) metal roof?
Currently we tie ropes to large trees and/or structural members on the
opposite side of the roof.

Cheers,
Dave


*--*


*Dave Tedeyan*
*Project Engineer*

*Taitem Engineering, PC*
109 S. Albany Street, Ithaca, NY 14850
Voice: (607) 277-1118 x121
www.taitem.com

On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 10:53 AM, Will White 
wrote:

> We use the RA-35 on the link you had below.  They work really well because
> they only take a few screws.
>
>
>
> *From:* RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Benn Kilburn
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 06, 2016 4:20 PM
> *To:* RE-wrenches 
> *Subject:* [RE-wrenches] Temporary Roof Anchors
>
>
>
> Wrenches,
>
> Of our residential installs, i would guess that at least 80% are done on
> composite asphalt shingle roofs typically ranging from 13 to 33deg pitch.
> The rest are made up of various metal roofs, cedar shake, rubber shingles,
> concrete tile, etc...
>
> Obviously, we require roof anchors for fall protection.  Rarely do we come
> across existing homes that have roof anchors already installed.
>
> I have typically been using these...
> hinged roof anchor
> 
>
> or these...
> RA15-1/
> 
>
> Preferably the RA15-1 since it can use screws (#12's) instead of nails and
> only needs 8 screws compared to the 20 nails for the hinged anchor... ***in
> order for it to be approved***
>
>
>
> ​What are you all using as temporary anchors specifically for asphalt
> shingle roofs​???
>
> Do any of you prefer to install permanent roof anchors, now that you have
> just installed a "serviceable" piece of equipment on the roof?  What do you
> use?
>
> Benn
>
>
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Temporary Roof Anchors

2016-01-08 Thread Benn Kilburn 
The aluminum flashing sounds great. 
I will fill the holes with sealant, re-insert the nails/screws and then cover 
all the screw heads with sealant and smooth it out. 
If I can scoop some clean aggregate out of the gutter then I spread it over the 
smoothed sealant and it blends in so you don't even see the sealant (which is 
black and barely noticeable from the ground anyway) 

I wish more homes around here used ridge vent caps. It would limit the number 
of roof vents spread out across the roof. 

Benn Kilburn
SkyFire Energy Inc. 
780-906-7807


> On Jan 8, 2016, at 9:02 AM, Dave Tedeyan  wrote:
> 
> If the customer is very particular, we'll replace the shingle. But most of 
> the time we just put in an aluminum flashing under the shingle.
> -Dave
> 
> 
> --
> 
> Dave Tedeyan
> Project Engineer
> 
> Taitem Engineering, PC
> 109 S. Albany Street, Ithaca, NY 14850
> Voice: (607) 277-1118 x121
> www.taitem.com
> 
>> On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 10:17 AM, Drake 
>>  wrote:
>> What method do you use to repair the shingles?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Drake 
>> 
>> At 09:59 AM 1/8/2016, you wrote:
>>> We use similar anchors.
>>> http://solutions.3m.com/wps/portal/3M/en_US/3M-PPE-Safety-Solutions/Personal-Protective-Equipment/Products/Product-Catalog/~/3M-Reusable-Roof-Anchorage-Device-4000-1-ea-case?N=5158341+8702288+3294529207+4294886062=rud
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Most shingle roofs we come across have a ridge cap, so we cannot put it 
>>> over the ridge. 
>>> We used to use RS-10 permanent anchors. They are fairly easy to install, 
>>> but we often have arrays going near the peak of the roof, so once modules 
>>> go on, the anchor gets covered up. 
>>> We just install the 3M ones on the opposite side of the roof, and then 
>>> patch the shingles when we are done.
>>> 
>>> On a related note, does anyone have a good product to use on a trapezoidal 
>>> (agricultural) metal roof?
>>> Currently we tie ropes to large trees and/or structural members on the 
>>> opposite side of the roof.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Dave
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> 
>>> Dave Tedeyan
>>> Project Engineer
>>> 
>>> Taitem Engineering, PC
>>> 109Â S. Albany Street, Ithaca, NY 14850
>>> Voice:Â (607) 277-1118 x121
>>> www.taitem.com
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 10:53 AM, Will White < william.wh...@rgsenergy.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> We use the RA-35 on the link you had below.  They work really well because 
>>> they only take a few screws.
>>> 
>>> Â 
>>> 
>>> From: RE-wrenches [ mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On 
>>> Behalf Of Benn Kilburn
>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2016 4:20 PM
>>> To: RE-wrenches < re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org>
>>> Subject: [RE-wrenches] Temporary Roof Anchors
>>> 
>>> Â 
>>> 
>>> Wrenches,
>>> 
>>> Of our residential installs, i would guess that at least 80% are done on 
>>> composite asphalt shingle roofs typically ranging from 13 to 33deg pitch. 
>>> The rest are made up of various metal roofs, cedar shake, rubber shingles, 
>>> concrete tile, etc...
>>> 
>>> Obviously, we require roof anchors for fall protection.  Rarely do we come 
>>> across existing homes that have roof anchors already installed.
>>> 
>>> I have typically been using these...
>>> hinged roof anchor 
>>> 
>>> or these...
>>> RA15-1/ 
>>> 
>>> Preferably the RA15-1 since it can use screws (#12's) instead of nails and 
>>> only needs 8 screws compared to the 20 nails for the hinged anchor... ***in 
>>> order for it to be approved***
>>> 
>>> Â 
>>> 
>>> ​What are you all using as temporary anchors specifically for asphalt 
>>> shingle roofs​???
>>> 
>>> Do any of you prefer to install permanent roof anchors, now that you have 
>>> just installed a "serviceable" piece of equipment on the roof?  What do 
>>> you use?
>>> 
>>> Benn
>>> 
>>> Â 
>>> 
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Temporary Roof Anchors

2016-01-08 Thread Drake 

What method do you use to repair the shingles?

Thanks,

Drake

At 09:59 AM 1/8/2016, you wrote:

We use similar anchors.
http://solutions.3m.com/wps/portal/3M/en_US/3M-PPE-Safety-Solutions/Personal-Protective-Equipment/Products/Product-Catalog/~/3M-Reusable-Roof-Anchorage-Device-4000-1-ea-case?N=5158341+8702288+3294529207+4294886062=rud

Most shingle roofs we come across have a ridge
cap, so we cannot put it over the ridge.Â
We used to use RS-10 permanent anchors. They are
fairly easy to install, but we often have arrays
going near the peak of the roof, so once modules
go on, the anchor gets covered up.Â
We just install the 3M ones on the opposite side
of the roof, and then patch the shingles when we are done.

On a related note, does anyone have a good
product to use on a trapezoidal (agricultural) metal roof?
Currently we tie ropes to large trees and/or
structural members on the opposite side of the roof.

Cheers,
Dave


--

Dave Tedeyan
Project Engineer

Taitem Engineering, PC
109Â S. Albany Street, Ithaca, NY 14850
Voice:Â (607) 277-1118 x121
www.taitem.com

On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 10:53 AM, Will White
<william.wh...@rgsenergy.com> wrote:

We use the RA-35 on the link you had
below.  They work really well because they only take a few screws.

Â

From: RE-wrenches
[mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Benn Kilburn
Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2016 4:20 PM
To: RE-wrenches
<re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org>
Subject: [RE-wrenches] Temporary Roof Anchors

Â

Wrenches,

Of our residential installs, i would guess that
at least 80% are done on composite asphalt
shingle roofs typically ranging from 13 to 33deg
pitch. The rest are made up of various metal
roofs, cedar shake, rubber shingles, concrete tile, etc...

Obviously, we require roof anchors for fall
protection.  Rarely do we come across existing
homes that have roof anchors already installed.

I have typically been using these...
hinged
roof anchor

or these...
RA15-1/


Preferably the RA15-1 since it can use screws
(#12's) instead of nails and only needs 8 screws
compared to the 20 nails for the hinged
anchor... ***in order for it to be approved***

Â

​What are you all using as temporary anchors
specifically for asphalt shingle roofs​???

Do any of you prefer to install permanent roof
anchors, now that you have just installed a
"serviceable" piece of equipment on the roof?  What do you use?

Benn

Â

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Re: [RE-wrenches] Temporary Roof Anchors

2016-01-08 Thread Dave Tedeyan 
If the customer is very particular, we'll replace the shingle. But most of
the time we just put in an aluminum flashing under the shingle.
-Dave


*--*


*Dave Tedeyan*
*Project Engineer*

*Taitem Engineering, PC*
109 S. Albany Street, Ithaca, NY 14850
Voice: (607) 277-1118 x121
www.taitem.com

On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 10:17 AM, Drake  wrote:

> What method do you use to repair the shingles?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Drake
>
> At 09:59 AM 1/8/2016, you wrote:
>
> We use similar anchors.
>
> http://solutions.3m.com/wps/portal/3M/en_US/3M-PPE-Safety-Solutions/Personal-Protective-Equipment/Products/Product-Catalog/~/3M-Reusable-Roof-Anchorage-Device-4000-1-ea-case?N=5158341+8702288+3294529207+4294886062=rud
>
> Most shingle roofs we come across have a ridge cap, so we cannot put it
> over the ridge.Â
> We used to use RS-10 permanent anchors. They are fairly easy to install,
> but we often have arrays going near the peak of the roof, so once modules
> go on, the anchor gets covered up.Â
> We just install the 3M ones on the opposite side of the roof, and then
> patch the shingles when we are done.
>
> On a related note, does anyone have a good product to use on a trapezoidal
> (agricultural) metal roof?
> Currently we tie ropes to large trees and/or structural members on the
> opposite side of the roof.
>
> Cheers,
> Dave
>
>
>
>
> *-- Dave Tedeyan*
> Project Engineer
>
>
> *Taitem Engineering, PC *109Â S. Albany Street, Ithaca, NY 14850
> Voice:Â (607) 277-1118 x121 
> www.taitem.com
>
> On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 10:53 AM, Will White < william.wh...@rgsenergy.com>
> wrote:
>
> We use the RA-35 on the link you had below.  They work really well
> because they only take a few screws.
>
> Â
>
> From: RE-wrenches [ mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org
> ] On Behalf Of Benn Kilburn
> Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2016 4:20 PM
> To: RE-wrenches < re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org>
> Subject: [RE-wrenches] Temporary Roof Anchors
>
> Â
>
> Wrenches,
>
> Of our residential installs, i would guess that at least 80% are done on
> composite asphalt shingle roofs typically ranging from 13 to 33deg pitch.
> The rest are made up of various metal roofs, cedar shake, rubber shingles,
> concrete tile, etc...
>
> Obviously, we require roof anchors for fall protection.  Rarely do we
> come across existing homes that have roof anchors already installed.
>
> I have typically been using these...
> hinged roof anchor
> 
>
> or these...
> RA15-1/
> 
>
> Preferably the RA15-1 since it can use screws (#12's) instead of nails and
> only needs 8 screws compared to the 20 nails for the hinged anchor... ***in
> order for it to be approved***
>
> Â
>
> ​What are you all using as temporary anchors specifically for asphalt
> shingle roofs​???
>
> Do any of you prefer to install permanent roof anchors, now that you have
> just installed a "serviceable" piece of equipment on the roof?  What do
> you use?
>
> Benn
>
> Â
>
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Temporary Roof Anchors

2016-01-07 Thread Will White 
We use the RA-35 on the link you had below.  They work really well because they 
only take a few screws.

From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf 
Of Benn Kilburn
Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2016 4:20 PM
To: RE-wrenches 
Subject: [RE-wrenches] Temporary Roof Anchors

Wrenches,
Of our residential installs, i would guess that at least 80% are done on 
composite asphalt shingle roofs typically ranging from 13 to 33deg pitch. The 
rest are made up of various metal roofs, cedar shake, rubber shingles, concrete 
tile, etc...
Obviously, we require roof anchors for fall protection.  Rarely do we come 
across existing homes that have roof anchors already installed.
I have typically been using these...
hinged roof anchor 

or these...
RA15-1/ 

Preferably the RA15-1 since it can use screws (#12's) instead of nails and only 
needs 8 screws compared to the 20 nails for the hinged anchor... ***in order 
for it to be approved***

​What are you all using as temporary anchors specifically for asphalt shingle 
roofs​???
Do any of you prefer to install permanent roof anchors, now that you have just 
installed a "serviceable" piece of equipment on the roof?  What do you use?
Benn

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