Re: [realXtend] I can't upload
42mb mesh is generally quite big, so that might be a problem. Usually we use meshes that are around 1mb. What viewer version are you using, and also what server? If you are using Taiga, then the problem is probably in your MySQL connection. See this wiki page for more information: http://wiki.realxtend.org/index.php/Getting_Started_with_Taiga#Frequently_Asked_Questions_About_Taiga Cheers, Mikko On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 11:56 PM, DiogoLuiz d1060.l...@gmail.com wrote: I'm trying to upload a file from google sketchup, but I can't. I follow the tutorial and now I have a .mesh file, the size of this file is 42mb, but I need to use this. -- http://groups.google.com/group/realxtend http://www.realxtend.org -- http://groups.google.com/group/realxtend http://www.realxtend.org
[realXtend] rex server driving me insain
Hi I am a 3d artist and i have great need to run my own open sim server. Now about a year ago under windows xp i ran the rex server and rex viewer and even tough a lot of things dint work i could work with it but now I run windows 7 and it has become impossible for me to understand how to run a server. Guys... I am a noob not a programmer nor a platform developer i am a 3D artist i need to run my own server. Could you maybe just maybe clear things up so someone like me with a little reading can learn how to do it ? I tried to run the old server on windows 7 but thats nothing but trouble the rex viewer does not work either, and yea sure i set it all to admin mode and so on the usual stuff you do when it does not work but that dint help a bit. But as i noticed the rex viewer is now old and we have the new Naali viewer and Taiga server ?? grid is now called gid ?? one connects to an url ?? even trough a browser ?? you guys completely lost me this time rex was a stand alone server and with a little help trough emails to far away friends i got it online but this thing If you could just tell me what where to download and what to install where then ill be out of your hair and i can go on with my life hahaha, that serious yes that serious whips smile of his face not kidding I have great need to run this server mainly because this is the only platform I know of where one can use 3D meshes instead of uhum prims and has the ability to use more advanced lighting. I can only ask you to help me because my desperate search on the net for a forum or some media to help was hopeless. So please help me out tell and me how i can run my own public server on a windows 7 system -- http://groups.google.com/group/realxtend http://www.realxtend.org
Re: [realXtend] rex server driving me insain
On pe, 2010-09-03 at 12:47 -0700, Icreative wrote: Hi I am a 3d artist and i have great need to run my own open sim server. Good to hear, art and great need in the same sentence is what we want! I tried to run the old server on windows 7 but thats nothing but trouble the rex viewer does not work either, and yea sure i set it all to admin mode and so on the usual stuff you do when it does not work They both should work. I've used the old rex viewer on a win7 system recently, no probs. A little more time has passed since ran the old server, and don't actually remember doing that on win7, but I'm pretty sure it works. Perhaps if you can describe those probs somehow we can help. And the new Naali viewer works against the old server too. But as i noticed the rex viewer is now old and we have the new Naali viewer and Taiga server ?? grid is now called gid ?? one connects to an url ?? even trough a browser ?? you guys completely lost me this time rex was a stand alone server and with a little help trough emails to far away friends i got it online but this thing :) It is not actually that much different, perhaps not at all from your standpoint - connecting is similar but you can now also use openid accounts like google mail etc. so don't necessarily need the separate rex accounts etc. (but those also work still). One problem is that Taiga is always in grid mode, and (due to the Cable Beach extensions) doesn't support the simple to-file saving with sqlite which the old rex server was using by default, but requires the mysql db engine to be installed to the system and creating some db tables etc. I can only ask you to help me because my desperate search on the net for a forum or some media to help was hopeless. So please help me out tell and me how i can run my own public server on a windows 7 system This is right place to ask, as AFAIK there are no active forums on the web and this is the users mailing list. We are also on on irc during work hours here in Finland, on #realxtend on freenode. I think the simplest for you is to just use the old 0.5 server release, as it doesn't require any configuration. If there is some problem on your win7 that you can't resolve, the instructions to get Taiga up are at http://wiki.realxtend.org/index.php/Getting_Started_with_Taiga The part about MySQL is here, not too complicated but some trouble, http://wiki.realxtend.org/index.php/Getting_Started_with_Taiga#Setting_up_MySql We are now working on also simpler server confs that don't need database servers always etc. but that is the situation now. ~Toni -- http://groups.google.com/group/realxtend http://www.realxtend.org
[realXtend] Re: I can't upload
Ok, now I got this, but my object is now a white object and I can walk inside that, how could I fix this? Thanks. -- http://groups.google.com/group/realxtend http://www.realxtend.org
Re: [realXtend] Re: I can't upload
On pe, 2010-09-03 at 14:34 -0700, DiogoLuiz wrote: Ok, now I got this, but my object is now a white object and I can walk inside that, how could I fix this? You must assign materials or textures to it. Collisions currently work only for the first submesh, the first material index. There is a patch for the server that should fix it to work an all, but there was some problem with it so it's not in current version yet. Now you can make a collision model which is all in one part, and set that as the collision model of your object. I don't know if Sketchup can do that for you (i know Blender can). ~Toni -- http://groups.google.com/group/realxtend http://www.realxtend.org
Re: [realXtend] Re: I can't upload
Sketchup doesn't make automaticly a collission model, you need to make that manualy On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 11:38 PM, Toni Alatalo ant...@kyperjokki.fi wrote: On pe, 2010-09-03 at 14:34 -0700, DiogoLuiz wrote: Ok, now I got this, but my object is now a white object and I can walk inside that, how could I fix this? You must assign materials or textures to it. Collisions currently work only for the first submesh, the first material index. There is a patch for the server that should fix it to work an all, but there was some problem with it so it's not in current version yet. Now you can make a collision model which is all in one part, and set that as the collision model of your object. I don't know if Sketchup can do that for you (i know Blender can). ~Toni -- http://groups.google.com/group/realxtend http://www.realxtend.org -- http://groups.google.com/group/realxtend http://www.realxtend.org
Re: [realXtend] rex server driving me insain
I would give taiga a shot, its quite easy to setup with the config wizard, and youll get some nice things like webdav inventory and avatars. Setting up rex servers wont be the problem, but if you need a public server from your home computer that might be a bit tricky. I think opensim basically wants your machine to have the new ip, so if you are behind a router this is not the case. I think you might be able to do some port forwarding, i have tried this some months ago with Taiga 0.1 or something and didn't get everything going. I think login went to the user server ok but the udp stuff just didnt work, you can forward udp too of course but there was some feature that you need to have on your router to make it work with opensim. To sum it up: easy to put locals up and play around, harder to publish and more so if you dont know how to access your router and do some magic. Let us know how it goes. P.S. People that know opensim better feel free to correct me, last time I studied this your host machine needed the net ip to itself. Best regards, Jonne Nauha realXtend developer http://www.realxtend.org/ http://www.evocativi.com/ On Sat, Sep 4, 2010 at 12:18 AM, Toni Alatalo ant...@kyperjokki.fi wrote: On pe, 2010-09-03 at 12:47 -0700, Icreative wrote: Hi I am a 3d artist and i have great need to run my own open sim server. Good to hear, art and great need in the same sentence is what we want! I tried to run the old server on windows 7 but thats nothing but trouble the rex viewer does not work either, and yea sure i set it all to admin mode and so on the usual stuff you do when it does not work They both should work. I've used the old rex viewer on a win7 system recently, no probs. A little more time has passed since ran the old server, and don't actually remember doing that on win7, but I'm pretty sure it works. Perhaps if you can describe those probs somehow we can help. And the new Naali viewer works against the old server too. But as i noticed the rex viewer is now old and we have the new Naali viewer and Taiga server ?? grid is now called gid ?? one connects to an url ?? even trough a browser ?? you guys completely lost me this time rex was a stand alone server and with a little help trough emails to far away friends i got it online but this thing :) It is not actually that much different, perhaps not at all from your standpoint - connecting is similar but you can now also use openid accounts like google mail etc. so don't necessarily need the separate rex accounts etc. (but those also work still). One problem is that Taiga is always in grid mode, and (due to the Cable Beach extensions) doesn't support the simple to-file saving with sqlite which the old rex server was using by default, but requires the mysql db engine to be installed to the system and creating some db tables etc. I can only ask you to help me because my desperate search on the net for a forum or some media to help was hopeless. So please help me out tell and me how i can run my own public server on a windows 7 system This is right place to ask, as AFAIK there are no active forums on the web and this is the users mailing list. We are also on on irc during work hours here in Finland, on #realxtend on freenode. I think the simplest for you is to just use the old 0.5 server release, as it doesn't require any configuration. If there is some problem on your win7 that you can't resolve, the instructions to get Taiga up are at http://wiki.realxtend.org/index.php/Getting_Started_with_Taiga The part about MySQL is here, not too complicated but some trouble, http://wiki.realxtend.org/index.php/Getting_Started_with_Taiga#Setting_up_MySql We are now working on also simpler server confs that don't need database servers always etc. but that is the situation now. ~Toni -- http://groups.google.com/group/realxtend http://www.realxtend.org -- http://groups.google.com/group/realxtend http://www.realxtend.org
Re: [realXtend] rex server driving me insain
First of thank you very much for your fast reply MR Toni we greatly appreciate it. Art and realXtend yes I can't even begin to describe how many purposes realXtend serves when it comes to 3D design and art its amazing ! I tried to run the 0.4 server not the 0.5 because i was not sure if it came with the underwater world great place by the way The problem i ran in to with win 7 is somewhat hard to explain for me and now i left the office i cant give an error log but ill get back on that. For now i can describe the problem as good as i can. After extracting and changing some permissions in win 7 the server seemed to run just fine, apart from some terrain texture problems and raw file uploads that dint work properly but after some testing and changing preferences of the rex viewer I found I was only able to run the viewer in window mode acceptable for now but that's not the real problem. After closing the viewer to see if every thing would get saved properly i was not able to get back on the platform. The login worked and I connected, authenticated all fine but wile loading it timed out and froze the viewer. After a little wile of changing permissions i found out that when I ran it under vista compatible mode it worked again but the same problem occurred after closing it again, now setting it to XP compatible mode and it worked again untill I closed it same problem and running out of different compatibility modes I could not get it to work again. TBH i have no clue of what the problem might be. So this is what ill try next. Ill download the 0.5 older server taking your advice :) and will try to connect to it on the much more fancy viewer Naali. Indeed because our purpose for realxtent now is to use it as an art medium for just a small group architects and land developers and artist who use the platform to simulate real pieces of land to see what new buildings art or other object have for impact on the land. Realxtend is unique when it comes to its ability to use advanced light features and or the use of 3D meshes in a much faster way then building a 3D enviroment in additional 3D programs and the ability to walk around in it as an avatar really opens up new perspectives. We use realxtend in combination with outodesk maya and 3Dmax to get the most out of it. It's an amazing medium platform !! I will keep you posted on the progress, again thank you very much for your help. -- http://groups.google.com/group/realxtend http://www.realxtend.org
Re: [realXtend] Re: I can't upload
Hello There is a somewhat long way around that problem, I have tried to do the same thing but dint work the way i wanted to. If you are familiar with outodeks maya then an option might be to use the Sketchup plugin for maya to import the models in to maya then use the org exporter in maya to export your model to your hard drive for uploading. Maya will create the collision file as it will also create material and mesh files. You might need to reverse Face normals on your model in maya or your object will turn invisible because Sketchup only creates planes one-sided visual suvices Maybe it helps you a bit. Best regards George. -- http://groups.google.com/group/realxtend http://www.realxtend.org
Re: [realXtend] Re: I can't upload
On la, 2010-09-04 at 01:21 +0200, George van Zeeland wrote: If you are familiar with outodeks maya then an option might be to use the Sketchup plugin for maya to import the models in to maya then use the org exporter in maya to export your model to your hard drive for BTW besides the old way of uploading the mesh, material and texture assets individually to the inventory, from where you can assign them to objects that you create in-world, we've been now using full scene import to RealXtend and I think there is a suitable exporter for Maya too: http://realxtend.blogspot.com/2009/12/tutorial-to-import-scene-from-blender.html is a tutorial where Blender is used, and there is an open source exporter for Maya which should be compatible: http://www.ogre3d.org/tikiwiki/Maya+Scene+Exporter The thing there is that you get to upload meshes, materials and textures in one go, and don't have to re-assign them manually in-world. They also go to their right places if you export the whole scene, but it can also be handy for even just individual objects (just need to export a scene with that single object). Besides the opensim console implemented last year and explained in that tutorial, there is now a work-in-progress gui frontend to it in Naali. For uploading individual meshes, I actually realized yesterday that we could perhaps simple dragdrop of the mesh from your desktop to in-world. Because the ogre .mesh file has the material ref inside it, and the material refers to the textures it uses, Naali could inspect the mesh and load all the assets and assign them correctly. Something to investigate, perhaps next week. Best regards George. cheers, and please be patient with us :) ~Toni -- http://groups.google.com/group/realxtend http://www.realxtend.org
