Tundra world building (Re: [realXtend] Taiga world building?)
On Feb 17, 2011, at 8:36 AM, Edgar Santos wrote: Hello! Hi, (i corrected the subject where i think you had a typo :) I guess I understand the Tundra concept. However, the only way to build a scene is through txml definition? No, it supports dotscene import, like Taiga. So we've made our scenes in e.g. Blender. You can just dragdrop one to the 3d view or scenestruct window. Also dragdrop of invidual .mesh files works. And 'enable manipulation' gives the same editing gizmo which is used against Taiga too, it's missing a gui still but you can use ctrl-tab to chose between move/rotate/scale. You can use scenestruct and eceditor to then add things like lights and audio and web pages etc, and use scenestruct right click menu to save the txml you created. but I can't use them properly. For instance, the Avatar scene, I run it on the server, then I login as a Client and I should be able to control an avatar right? I just get the same view of the sever with the freelook camera as usual. The same for the chat, etc... To use the local files as assets, you must start the viewer so that it finds the assets. Simplest is to right-click on the xml you clicked to start the server, and choose 'open tundra viewer in this directory' as shown in the screenshot in http://www.realxtend.org/doxygen/tundradocumentfiles.html . I hope this works in the 1.0.0 which was made in a new way, we had trouble with that viewer launch thing in a test installer. If that 'open viewer here' thing does show in the menu, you have to resort to commandline: viewer.exe --storage scenes\Avatar With http references you don't have to do this, but for local files is basically the only way the app can know where to find files like the avatar xml etc. Cheers, ~Toni -- http://groups.google.com/group/realxtend http://www.realxtend.org
Re: [realXtend] Re: Back up options
10.2.2011 16:52, CecilBergwin kirjoitti: Small update for those who maybe have eyes on this thread and also looking at backing up from your Taiga Servers like us. A little update here again: I got the opensim scene backup tool to work by simplyfying some UI code related to how to 'save for http' button is showed in the backup tool. With that it saved all beatifully, wrote that semi-txml and folders for meshes, materials and textures. Automatically for the whole scene (given you are a region owner / can get god rights). I made a new conversion script based on the previous one, so there's a simple bastard2txml.py next to the previous dotscene creating one in tools/ dir in tundra branch in naali repo. With these two tools can save a rex scene from Taiga, and load it to Tundra. Is a bit incomplete still, must put quaternion - euler conversion in place for rotations. Put a w.i.p. conversion of the infamous ugly sandbox on world.realxtend.org:9000 to https://github.com/realXtend/naali/blob/tundra/bin/scenes/TaigaExport/wro9000.txml and was talking with Jonne N. who has saved Beneath the Waves earlier with the tool that we could put that as a txml there too, with http assets (like that wro export is too). I need to travel now to teach rex programming tomorrow, but if Cecil can't build self (i pushed the tweak to github) we can provide a quickfix dll for woldbuildmodule soon enough I think. And have to tool working again in future releases. ~Toni -- http://groups.google.com/group/realxtend http://www.realxtend.org
Re: [realXtend] Re: Back up options
Awsome to hear that Toni, just started to play around with the new tundra and its fascinating :-) On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 3:28 PM, Toni Alatalo t...@playsign.net wrote: 10.2.2011 16:52, CecilBergwin kirjoitti: Small update for those who maybe have eyes on this thread and also looking at backing up from your Taiga Servers like us. A little update here again: I got the opensim scene backup tool to work by simplyfying some UI code related to how to 'save for http' button is showed in the backup tool. With that it saved all beatifully, wrote that semi-txml and folders for meshes, materials and textures. Automatically for the whole scene (given you are a region owner / can get god rights). I made a new conversion script based on the previous one, so there's a simple bastard2txml.py next to the previous dotscene creating one in tools/ dir in tundra branch in naali repo. With these two tools can save a rex scene from Taiga, and load it to Tundra. Is a bit incomplete still, must put quaternion - euler conversion in place for rotations. Put a w.i.p. conversion of the infamous ugly sandbox on world.realxtend.org:9000 to https://github.com/realXtend/naali/blob/tundra/bin/scenes/TaigaExport/wro9000.txmland was talking with Jonne N. who has saved Beneath the Waves earlier with the tool that we could put that as a txml there too, with http assets (like that wro export is too). I need to travel now to teach rex programming tomorrow, but if Cecil can't build self (i pushed the tweak to github) we can provide a quickfix dll for woldbuildmodule soon enough I think. And have to tool working again in future releases. ~Toni -- http://groups.google.com/group/realxtend http://www.realxtend.org -- http://groups.google.com/group/realxtend http://www.realxtend.org
[realXtend] Re: Back up options
Hello Toni, Well, what can I say but thank you very much indeed, as you say Is a bit incomplete still but we still managed to get our scene from TaigaBackupPythonScriptTundra in the method you said wohoo :). The strangest thing for myself was I actually managed to get the Source to compile, can you believe it. ...quick image from Naali (never seen this before) http://perf.bpmstudios.com/Compiled_atlast.gif ...secondly an image of how Tundra imported our scene, 99% of our textures were there, I think most of our meshes were there, however position scale rotations were all over the place for objects but surely thats down to what you mentioned above in regards to Is a bit incomplete still. Much appreciate your input here Tony, this will surely help many others when its finally completed 100% Cheers... will check back soon (weekend off thankfully) -- http://groups.google.com/group/realxtend http://www.realxtend.org
[realXtend] Re: Back up options
For the above post (no edit) - http://perf.bpmstudios.com/Tundra_Import.gif -- http://groups.google.com/group/realxtend http://www.realxtend.org