[REBOL] Re: Gregg's Article in OnLamp

2003-11-04 Thread Ingo Hohmann

Hi Andrew,

A J Martin wrote:
> rebOldes wrote:
> 
>>YES... I would appreciate it as well.. and #"," character as a word as
> 
> well so I could use it in my dialect. It would be good to send it to the
> feedback again.
> 
> And what would you use comma (,) for?

For not having this error?

 >> a: [ eggs, bananas]
** Syntax Error: Invalid word -- eggs,
** Near: (line 1) a: [ eggs, bananas]
 >>


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[REBOL] Re: Gregg's Article in OnLamp

2003-11-03 Thread A J Martin

rebOldes wrote:
> YES... I would appreciate it as well.. and #"," character as a word as
well so I could use it in my dialect. It would be good to send it to the
feedback again.

And what would you use comma (,) for?

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[REBOL] Re: Gregg's Article in OnLamp

2003-11-03 Thread Tom Conlin


On Mon, 3 Nov 2003, Gregg Irwin wrote:

>
> Hi Ged,
>
> GB> REBOL in a Nutshell would be a great thing to have.
>
> I agree. Let O'Reilly know. If we *all* let them know we want a great
> O'Reilly REBOL book, maybe it'll shake 'em up a little. :)
>
> -- Gregg

Agreed I would love a nutshell book, however I would rather have just
one... so  I wonder if it would not be prudent for Rebols shell to be a
little bit firmer before being cast in stone.

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[REBOL] Re: Gregg's Article in OnLamp

2003-11-03 Thread Gregg Irwin

Hi Ged,

GB> REBOL in a Nutshell would be a great thing to have.

I agree. Let O'Reilly know. If we *all* let them know we want a great
O'Reilly REBOL book, maybe it'll shake 'em up a little. :)

-- Gregg 

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[REBOL] Re: Gregg's Article in OnLamp

2003-11-03 Thread rebOldes

Hello Martin,

Friday, October 31, 2003, 11:11:32 PM, you wrote:

AJM> Gregg wrote:
>> To me, one of REBOL's greatest strengths is the ability to use words--

AJM> Yes, I agree. I'd like Rebol to be more versatile in this area. I'm sure
AJM> with improvements to the current parser in Rebol, then words like:
AJM> C#
AJM> can become valid Rebol word! values. I'd like it if any combination of
AJM> printable characters that aren't all ready another Rebol datatype are
AJM> treated as a valid word! value.

YES... I would appreciate it as well.. and #"," character as a word as
well so I could use it in my dialect. It would be good to send it to
the feedback again.




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[REBOL] Re: Gregg's Article in OnLamp

2003-11-03 Thread Ged Byrne

> Feel free to use the comment section for the article
> to critique and
> discuss these kinds of ideas. Hopefully there will
> be enough interest
> to warrant O'Reilly publishing more articles on
> REBOL.
> 
> -- Gregg 

REBOL in a Nutshell would be a great thing to have.



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[REBOL] Re: Gregg's Article in OnLamp

2003-10-31 Thread Gregg Irwin

Andrew et al

AJM> I'm sure with improvements to the current parser in Rebol, then
AJM> words like: 
AJM> C#
AJM> can become valid Rebol word! values. I'd like it if any combination of
AJM> printable characters that aren't all ready another Rebol datatype are
AJM> treated as a valid word! value.

Feel free to use the comment section for the article to critique and
discuss these kinds of ideas. Hopefully there will be enough interest
to warrant O'Reilly publishing more articles on REBOL.

-- Gregg 

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[REBOL] Re: Gregg's Article in OnLamp

2003-10-31 Thread A J Martin

Gregg wrote:
> If you look at the options side by side, do you really like the second one
better?
>
> languages: [
> REBOL Java VB Perl Python Ruby Tcl PHP C C++ C-sharp
> Delphi Smalltalk Lisp COBOL
> ]
>
> languages: [
> "REBOL" "Java" "VB" "Perl" "Python" "Ruby" "Tcl" "PHP"
> "C" "C++" "C#" "Delphi" "Smalltalk" "Lisp" "COBOL"
> ]
>
> Hopefully people will look at the first version and think "Hey, where are
those defined? They're not strings...how does it do that?"

I think that the third option is better still:

languages: [
REBOL Java VB Perl Python Ruby Tcl PHP C C++ C#
Delphi Smalltalk Lisp COBOL
]

:)

Gregg wrote:
> To me, one of REBOL's greatest strengths is the ability to use words--

Yes, I agree. I'd like Rebol to be more versatile in this area. I'm sure
with improvements to the current parser in Rebol, then words like:
C#
can become valid Rebol word! values. I'd like it if any combination of
printable characters that aren't all ready another Rebol datatype are
treated as a valid word! value.

Andrew J Martin
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[REBOL] Re: Gregg's Article in OnLamp

2003-10-31 Thread Gregg Irwin

Hi Andrew,

AJM> I discovered a little problem when I went to "correct" a problem here:

>>> languages: [
AJM> [REBOL Java VB Perl Python Ruby Tcl PHP C C++ C#
AJM> [Delphi Smalltalk Lisp COBOL
AJM> []
AJM> ** Syntax Error: Invalid word -- C#
AJM> ** Near: (line 2) REBOL Java VB Perl Python Ruby Tcl PHP C C++ C#

AJM> I think it would have been better to use strings instead of words. It also
AJM> has the side benefit of reducing the number of words in the script as well.

I actually thought long and hard about that, and I opted to both use
words, and still include C# in the list. I could easily have left it
out, but I actually hope that people will do what you did and find
that not everything can be a valid word. I don't want to encourage
people to stick with the old mentality of "just make it a string" that
you have with most other languages. We can do better with REBOL.

If you look at the options side by side, do you really like the second
one better?

languages: [
REBOL Java VB Perl Python Ruby Tcl PHP C C++ C-sharp
Delphi Smalltalk Lisp COBOL
]

languages: [
"REBOL" "Java" "VB" "Perl" "Python" "Ruby" "Tcl" "PHP"
"C" "C++" "C#" "Delphi" "Smalltalk" "Lisp" "COBOL"
]

Hopefully people will look at the first version and think "Hey, where
are those defined? They're not strings...how does it do that?"

To me, one of REBOL's greatest strengths is the ability to use words--
not to mention all the other native datatypes--and I want to encourage
people to be aware of them and how important they are.

Thanks for bringing it up!

-- Gregg 

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[REBOL] Re: Gregg's Article in OnLamp

2003-10-31 Thread Carl Read

On 01-Nov-03, A J Martin wrote:

> Sunanda wrote (in another thread):
>> ...here's something else I spotted: an article on REBOL by Gregg
>> who is
> described as "considered somewhat eccentric..."
>> 
>> http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/onlamp/2003/10/30/rebol.html
>> 
>> Nice work, Gregg!

> Good work, Gregg!

And I third that!  A good example of why I like REBOL too.

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